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The wife and I stopped watching WandaVision week in/week out by episode 3 since not enough was happening. We had intended to wait until all episodes were out before binging them. But we cracked last night. Huge uptick in quality after episode 3. A few things I noticed 1) At one point they ask Jimmy what's Wanda's name and he's like Wanda Maximof. Any others, and he is like nope. I assume that's about how she is also the Scarlet Witch, but does anyone call her that in the films? 2) When Wanda goes to get Vision's dissected corpse spread out over tables, it looks like the scene from West Coast Avengers drawn by John Byrne which made him look like a cut apart skeleton. 3) At the start of the episode Pietro has a crude tattoo drawn on his arm by the boys. I think it's either MOM or (more likely) HOM. AKA House Of M.
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Feb 13, 2021 11:39
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The tat is apparently just legit ink Evan Peters has.
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Feb 13, 2021 11:47
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Argue posted:All I really want is a reasonable explanation for the changed face. It doesn't have to turn out to be Fox Quicksilver, but it'd be pretty dumb if it was, like, Mephisto going "oh I can rewrite reality but I don't have the power to change my face so I just put on a wig and hoped you'd fall for my impersonation". She recast him.
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Feb 13, 2021 11:54
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Argue posted:All I really want is a reasonable explanation for the changed face. It doesn't have to turn out to be Fox Quicksilver, but it'd be pretty dumb if it was, like, Mephisto going "oh I can rewrite reality but I don't have the power to change my face so I just put on a wig and hoped you'd fall for my impersonation". Wanda can't bring people back to life, so she stuffed her Pietro's memories and character into a conveniently placed alternative universe's shell.
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Feb 13, 2021 12:03
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Gaz-L posted:The tat is apparently just legit ink Evan Peters has. Interesting. They must have deliberately decided to keep it* since films usually block actors tattoos. Like how Nicholas Cage had to have makeup cover his Ghost Rider tattoos, in Ghost Rider. Also I'm calling it now, Agatha's husband is going to be Ralph. Ralph Isto. * = Not saying they left it in as a clue to something. Just that they decided to let the tattoo stay on screen.
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Feb 13, 2021 13:05
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The Question IRL posted:The wife and I stopped watching WandaVision week in/week out by episode 3 since not enough was happening. Yeah, I feel like this was definitely supposed to be a hint to the audience that she'll be earning that name pretty soon here in this series, or that there is witchcraft afoot in general.
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Feb 13, 2021 14:17
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The Question IRL posted:1) At one point they ask Jimmy what's Wanda's name and he's like Wanda Maximof. Any others, and he is like nope. It's been a long time since I've watched Age of Ultron but I think Maria Hill says Wanda and Pietro's full names (which yes, are Maximoff) when she's giving the Avengers a mission brief about them.
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Feb 13, 2021 15:12
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The Question IRL posted:Interesting. They must have deliberately decided to keep it* since films usually block actors tattoos. Like how Nicholas Cage had to have makeup cover his Ghost Rider tattoos, in Ghost Rider. This is only the case when they think it's something most of the audience might know or be distracting or it doesn't make sense. I always think of Henry Rollins playing a high ranking officer in a Nazi biker gang in sons of anarchy who had a giant Black Flag tattoo on his neck. That poo poo made no sense, but most people just looked at him and saw a biker man, not knowing what that logo was.
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Feb 13, 2021 15:25
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SlimGoodbody posted:I wish studios were still making movies where a man in a business suit and luchador mask can go about his day without remark from anyone ... movie? https://twitter.com/PENTAELZEROM/status/1357495899937726465?s=20 
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Feb 13, 2021 15:45
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BrianWilly posted:Anyway I know that everyone doesn't want Mephisto or whatever but right now I'm operating at 420% certainty that "Pietro" is gonna turn out to be Mephisto, and Evan Peters is gonna end up playing him in the MCU going forward. All of Pietro's lines just make so much more sense if you imagine him as a smarmy, free-wheeling trickster devil character who's enjoying the chaos and discord all this is sowing, is provoking Wanda to go even further with it ("I'm impressed!"), and is developing a notable relationship with her kids. Yeah that seems most likely. He showed up to stop an argument between Wanda and Vision that could've resulted in Wanda ending the Hex, and is now actively trying to displace Vision in the family. And it would explain the fourth wall stuff like the fact that he looks like X-Men Pietro and the comic costumes. There is a new source of information that is affecting the Hex, a multi-dimensional being who is aware of the Fox X-men universe and the comic universe.
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Feb 13, 2021 16:21
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Vince MechMahon posted:This is only the case when they think it's something most of the audience might know or be distracting or it doesn't make sense. I always think of Henry Rollins playing a high ranking officer in a Nazi biker gang in sons of anarchy who had a giant Black Flag tattoo on his neck. That poo poo made no sense, but most people just looked at him and saw a biker man, not knowing what that logo was. Obviously Henry Rollins was playing a character who is not Henry Rollins, a real person who exists in Sons of Anarchy, duh! If Henry Rollins appears in Sons of Anarchy he would be played by someone else and it would get a quip about how he looks familiar or something.
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Feb 13, 2021 16:31
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Endless Mike posted:Obviously Henry Rollins was playing a character who is not Henry Rollins, a real person who exists in Sons of Anarchy, duh! Yeah but let's say only the original, pre-Rollins black flag exists even. Why does a Nazi have a giant neck tattoo of a leftist punk band?
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Feb 13, 2021 17:34
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Vince MechMahon posted:This is only the case when they think it's something most of the audience might know or be distracting or it doesn't make sense. I always think of Henry Rollins playing a high ranking officer in a Nazi biker gang in sons of anarchy who had a giant Black Flag tattoo on his neck. That poo poo made no sense, but most people just looked at him and saw a biker man, not knowing what that logo was. The RZA was in the movie American Gangster, which is a period piece. There is a scene of him where you can clearly see a Wu Tang Clan tattoo on his arm.
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Feb 13, 2021 17:51
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In TV news its been announced that the CW is not going to go ahead with their Wonder Girl show. This would have been the new Future State Wonder Girl that was just introduced.
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Feb 13, 2021 17:57
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Vince MechMahon posted:Yeah but let's say only the original, pre-Rollins black flag exists even. Why does a Nazi have a giant neck tattoo of a leftist punk band? People can change.
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Feb 13, 2021 18:06
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muscles like this! posted:In TV news its been announced that the CW is not going to go ahead with their Wonder Girl show. This would have been the new Future State Wonder Girl that was just introduced. I don't know how to feel about this. I was interested in the idea of the show but every Future State comic has been hard boiled rear end.
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Feb 13, 2021 18:11
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Vince MechMahon posted:Yeah but let's say only the original, pre-Rollins black flag exists even. Why does a Nazi have a giant neck tattoo of a leftist punk band? Paul Ryan's favourite band is Rage Against the Machine
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Feb 13, 2021 18:17
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Skwirl posted:I'm not an expert on luchadors, but I watched a bunch of the films and they'd have wrestlers in business suits wearing the full face mask because the mask was the identity. But if face paint was also a large part of it it I will defer to your expertise. Mask vs Mask (or Hair for guys already mask less) are a big deal in lucha libre. Guys lose their masks permanently for the rest of their career. SlimGoodbody posted:I wish studios were still making movies where a man in a business suit and luchador mask can go about his day without remark from anyone on his way to fight Frankenstein and Satan in a wrestling ring for some reason As an alternative, they make movies where skinny Japanese men get injected with super chemicals to turn into 50 foot tall Kota Ibushis to fight kaijus.
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Feb 13, 2021 18:42
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Rhyno posted:I don't know how to feel about this. I was interested in the idea of the show but every Future State comic has been hard boiled rear end. Wonder Woman was pretty decent, mostly because it was just a riff on the tale of Orpheus and Eurydice instead of "Gotham City is run by fascists and is now double terrible, rarr!"
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Feb 13, 2021 18:44
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Vince MechMahon posted:Yeah but let's say only the original, pre-Rollins black flag exists even. Why does a Nazi have a giant neck tattoo of a leftist punk band? They're National SOCIALISTS duh! 
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Feb 13, 2021 18:45
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Retro Futurist posted:Paul Ryan's favourite band is Rage Against the Machine Rollins evil Nazi biker character was much more intelligent than Paul Ryan.
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Feb 13, 2021 18:46
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BrianWilly posted:...All of Pietro's lines just make so much more sense if you imagine him as a smarmy, free-wheeling trickster devil character who's enjoying the chaos and discord all this is sowing, is provoking Wanda to go even further with it ("I'm impressed!"), and is developing a notable relationship with her kids. Didn't he even refer to the twins as hellspawns or something?
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Feb 13, 2021 20:47
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I really think more attention needs to go to the title sequences the last two weeks. I'm not as all-in on the Pietro-is-Mephisto train, but his 'and starring' bit in this week's opening has him throwing the horns in a freeze-frame which could easily be seen as foreshadowing. And the lyrics this week were stuff about not fighting chaos (magick?) and not questioning the things you've done. EDIT: Is it possible the Incredibles nod on the theatre marquee was a background gag considering Vision's cape was basically leashing him to the Hex at one point. Like, I definitely heard Brad Bird yelling "NO CAPES!" in my head. Gaz-L fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Feb 13, 2021 |
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Feb 13, 2021 21:12
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Is anyone else annoyed by the standard symphonic MCU opening? I just feel like for a show that is so unique to the MCU but also has its own (parody) opening credits, it just feels really out of place. The quick "flipping comic book pages" used in AOS and the Netflix-verse would be much better. Or at least let the show do its own thing with the sequence, like how Spider-Man: Homecoming did.
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Feb 14, 2021 00:10
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I think the worst use of it is still the opening of endgame
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Feb 14, 2021 00:15
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notthegoatseguy posted:Is anyone else annoyed by the standard symphonic MCU opening? I just feel like for a show that is so unique to the MCU but also has its own (parody) opening credits, it just feels really out of place. The quick "flipping comic book pages" used in AOS and the Netflix-verse would be much better. Or at least let the show do its own thing with the sequence, like how Spider-Man: Homecoming did. The 'flipping pages' was Marvel Television's thing. This is Marvel Studios. (ie Loeb and Perlmutter have jack and poo poo to do with these shows)
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Feb 14, 2021 00:17
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Gaz-L posted:The 'flipping pages' was Marvel Television's thing. This is Marvel Studios. (ie Loeb and Perlmutter have jack and poo poo to do with these shows) I understand that. I just think thematically it would be way less distracting to use something like that then the symphonic MCU theme. It just takes me out of the moment after the cold open.
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Feb 14, 2021 00:21
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site posted:I think the worst use of it is still the opening of endgame Agreed. The movie should have just started. Nothing at the beginning.
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Feb 14, 2021 00:23
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site posted:I think the worst use of it is still the opening of endgame Not a Traffic fan? Editing all the snapped people out was a nice touch I thought.
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Feb 14, 2021 00:47
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At least it's better than the DCEU opening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEAIVGKm-W8 The opening credits the Justice League cartoon looked better than that
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Feb 14, 2021 01:00
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the Marvel Studios opener is like triple the length it needs to be and sounds like music from an epic fantasy film shot for forty dollars in the woods outside Vancouver
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Feb 14, 2021 01:13
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howe_sam posted:Not a Traffic fan? It's not the song it's just...I dunno cutting away to the logo after that scene feels weird
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Feb 14, 2021 01:15
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I don't know what's more horribly indulgent, the new Marvel Studios logo animation or the seven-minute flashy credits sequence at the end of every episode of WandaVision.
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Feb 14, 2021 01:31
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Cute how Wandavision's latest episode hints as a secret Project Cataract involved with vision, given that cataracts have that whole milky white look aka his emotionless comics version
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Feb 14, 2021 02:01
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JordanKai posted:I don't know what's more horribly indulgent, the new Marvel Studios logo animation or the seven-minute flashy credits sequence at the end of every episode of WandaVision. Those credits are loving awesome. I watch them every time. The music during them is great too.
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Feb 14, 2021 02:45
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FilthyImp posted:...white look aka his emotionless comics version Holy poo poo, in all my speculation I don't know how it never occurred to me that this might all be building towards that.
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Feb 14, 2021 04:05
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site posted:It's not the song it's just...I dunno cutting away to the logo after that scene feels weird Going straight from seeing Clint's family being wiped out to Tony and Nebula in space would've been a little awkward, so I think including the modified studio logo with Dear Mr. Fantasy playing over it instead of the usual fanfare worked as a transition. imo of course.
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Feb 14, 2021 04:15
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Sgt. Politeness posted:Holy poo poo, in all my speculation I don't know how it never occurred to me that this might all be building towards that. look at the clip of Wanda breaking into SWORD again
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Feb 14, 2021 04:16
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Sgt. Politeness posted:Holy poo poo, in all my speculation I don't know how it never occurred to me that this might all be building towards that. Well, because white emotionless Vision is loving dumb and terrible. Like I'm not a huge Vision fan to begin with and that's the worst version of him, and I kinda think the people that like Vision would agree with me. Oh let's have Paul Bettany in even worse makeup and not be allowed to emote at all, this is clearly the way to go with his character.
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Well it doesn't have to be permanent, I think it would be better than him just dying again and just as tragic. Maybe then she can do the whole travel to the underworld to find his soul trope, but this time you know, it's a female hero saving a man for once, I don't know.
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