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Gonzo McFee posted:Yeah, none of Boris's big schemes get past the planning stages but the people enlisted to plan it rake in millions. I'll always love the Estuary Airport. Honestly, Boris seemed keener on the big infrastructure projects when he was Mayor than as PM. He seems entirely focused on that loving tunnel to Ireland. It's great. Easier to worry about projects that'll never happen than those that might involve him doing some work.
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Yeah Boris's big project obsessions are twofold: one is that he likes to have a bombastic big cool project to waffle vaguely and enthusiastically about. The other is corruption. He's just realised that when he's PM he doesn't need the former because he doesn't have to do the after-dinner-speaker circuit any more.
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Feb 14, 2021 13:19
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Guavanaut posted:I'm not sure that this is true. People are worse off but there's nothing to help them join the dots with wealth inequality that has prominence like XR or Blue Planet have with climate change. Even though inequality has a more easily deducible individual benefit. I'd guess this is because rectifying climate change is more compatible with a profit motive than redistribution? We're used to seeing unhappy pangolin/cut to bulldozer pushing trees over/cut to palmolive bars on a shelf in Boots. We're not used to seeing homeless person under a bridge in Paisley/cut to Anders Holch Povlsen outside a castle/cut to ASOS website. In the context of reducing air mileage to help solve climate change, it's easier to achieve the same ends by talking about orangutans than the great money trick. If you talk about redistribution by creating a market for the transfer of air-miles you also lead yourself into a solution where a large number of people receive a small amount of money. That'll make a difference to them, but you can't count on market forces turning it into railway electrification, free buses and rural broadband.
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Jose posted:Why is this still a thing. Like nobody believes it XMNN posted:man has a Nazi level obsession with mega projects It's as if Johnson thinks that trade barriers are physical, like there's now a wall in the Irish Sea which he can tunnel under to get the lorries through.
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He probably doesn't, but unionist voters, well, they just might.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Bung a bob for boris to burrow between blighty blub a blub a bloo bloo bloo Billion bob bung for Boris backers
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Feb 14, 2021 14:03
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crispix posted:by way of reconciliation as i seem to have pissed off some people today i will share with you all some photographs that i took (using the camera built into my mobile-telephone) on my walk today. i hope that those of you who did not get to have a lovely walk today will get some enjoyment from seeing photographs taken during my lovely walk on your computer screen/monitor/Visual Display Unit there I enjoyed your photos and their captions. Sorry my temper got a bit frayed, you’re a good person and a Good Poster and I hope you post more pictures 
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Feb 14, 2021 14:07
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FREE SPEECH https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1360720263588020232 https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1360721681774505990 https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1360722121803132928
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Endjinneer posted:People are worse off but there's nothing to help them join the dots with wealth inequality that has prominence like XR or Blue Planet have with climate change. Even though inequality has a more easily deducible individual benefit. I can't see people getting the same degree of angry about distant pangolins than they did about their rivers being on fire, which kicked off the initial wave of environmental enthusiasm, whereas I can see people being directly angry about being worse off and blaming it on all sorts of things (see also lockdowns, mask mandates, 5G, and global lizards as well as migrants). e: ^^^ free speech! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snpuJ0Bk88o
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Feb 14, 2021 14:15
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Really interesting choice to head up your article on free speech with a picture of Rowling, Telegraph editor. And then for some reason my dog has just started barking and running around checking all the windows? 
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Feb 14, 2021 14:21
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The one thing you need to defend free speech is to fine people for saying things you don't like
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The article is literally about how important it is to stop people from saying bad things about empire 
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Always telling that asking for a more complete telling of British history is actually "rewriting British history". bessantj fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Feb 14, 2021 |
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Jose posted:Why is this still a thing. Like nobody believes it Even in the fantasy world where this actually happens, it wouldn’t be completed for like a decade at best. Is this just an admission that we’re going to have these trade issues forever?
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Feb 14, 2021 14:30
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Love to live in an openly fascist society that says actually you are the real fascist for not letting me say the n word.
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The only political value of free speech is freedom to criticise power so lol that they're openly saying free speech is everything but criticising power.
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Feb 14, 2021 14:31
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So the us are trying to do a coup in Ecuador like they did in Bolivia
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Love to live in an openly fascist society that says actually you are the real fascist for not letting me say the n word. Actually you'll find you're a fascist if you don't say the n-word. Also, the new n-word is nazi and if you call someone that you will go to prison.
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Feb 14, 2021 14:39
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Jose posted:So the us are trying to do a coup in Ecuador like they did in Bolivia So glad they got the bad guy out.
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My big brother has always loved chocolate oranges. His daughter made him a valentines gift of one today but since they couldn't go out she made him one herself. It amused me so I share. Happy valentines day goons. Hope you all have a better day than the random person who entered their address wrong and had a large beef brisket, 2 packs of bacon 4 packs of beef stock, a bottle of wine, a load of fresh herbs and some caramel shortbread accidentally delivered to our front door. Hopefully they figure it out and come back as there's no contact info and the delivery driver was already driving away as I opened the door. Called the company and it went straight to voicemail. Emailed them too going hey! Uh. What.
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Mebh posted:My big brother has always loved chocolate oranges. His daughter made him a valentines gift of one today but since they couldn't go out she made him one herself. Getting the Christingle done early I see.
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Feb 14, 2021 14:47
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OwlFancier posted:So glad they got the bad guy out. The left wing party who are not the government have clearly rigged the election so they win Lol cool https://twitter.com/adamhamdy/status/1360876177339129856?s=19
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TheRat posted:Baddiel seems to be having a normal one 
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You know I do wonder about the whole raging of old people about "doing Britain down" and being proud of the empire and our history stuff. I've never bought into it because I grew up with the Internet and made as many friends across the world from various other cultures as I did in real life. I find the idea of being proud of Britain screwing people over and "one upping the forrins" appalling as these are my friends. They're not some nameless terror over the hills coming to steal my resources. I felt the same about us with the vaccine supply. Vaguely sick and not really surprised that the one thing we're good at is screwing someone else over. Especially if they're a minority from another country. Is it just as simple as the Internet divide? Unfettered access as a kid to talk to other people across the world then as a result feeling comfortable enough to go live abroad for a decade as an adult. Versus your standard tory voter, never viewing other countries or classes of people as anything but a needy scrounging set of others who would take all your poo poo if they could.
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Jose posted:The left wing party who are not the government have clearly rigged the election so they win The gov have learnt they can withstand that number of deaths, reward their cronies and go up in the polls
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Mebh posted:I find the idea of being proud of Britain screwing people over and "one upping the forrins" appalling as these are my friends. People that are proud of empire would dispute this description I imagine.
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Mebh posted:You know I do wonder about the whole raging of old people about "doing Britain down" and being proud of the empire and our history stuff.  and I'm not quite sure who it's for. Like fortunately I was taught history as a way of looking at sources and trying to be critical of them, but I was never explicitly taught to do that about the idea of Empire, I had to learn that outside of the default educational environment (it's pretty easy when you learn any history told from outside of the UK), but all of the poo poo in there seems like the default lens through which the Empire was viewed until recently. It's not the "politically incorrect" version, it's the default political version if you never approached it critically at all, and I had to find the alternative takes elsewhere. Which makes me wonder who this poo poo is actually for. Express readers who want their own biases reaffirming, including the secret belief that all school history lessons are a big https://twitter.com/kevinmkruse/status/1306731548826374145
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Comrade Fakename posted:Even in the fantasy world where this actually happens, it wouldn’t be completed for like a decade at best. Is this just an admission that we’re going to have these trade issues forever? It will never be completed. If they're dumb enough to actually try building it, the EU will soon after stop laughing and use political pressure to stop the project. And if Dictator Johnson stubbornly continues the project, it'll be blown up by French depth charges long before completion. Or the UK just collapses under a blockade, whichever happens first. Either way, the idea is dumb and stillborn. It's pure graft for whoever can get the money to then not build anything.
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Libluini posted:It will never be completed. If they're dumb enough to actually try building it, the EU will soon after stop laughing and use political pressure to stop the project. And if Dictator Johnson stubbornly continues the project, it'll be blown up by French depth charges long before completion. Or the UK just collapses under a blockade, whichever happens first. Either way, the idea is dumb and stillborn. It's pure graft for whoever can get the money to then not build anything. It's a tunnel to Northern Ireland, so the EU may point and laugh but they won't actually care.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Deliveroo is pushing for eat out to help out sequel. Surely they make loads more money from full lockdown?
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Construction alone on the channel tunnel took six years. I imagine Bojo will chuck millions at his friends for "feasibility studies" before quietly dropping the project.
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Darth Walrus posted:It's a tunnel to Northern Ireland, so the EU may point and laugh but they won't actually care. Yeah and it wouldn't even change anything about the trade barriers, which is the funniest part.
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There are I think about 5 ships a day from Liverpool to NI and back. If more carriage is required can he free market not increase that? What does the tunnel provide in either material or political terms that we don't already have? Nothing obviously, its a bung. But it is so obviously pointless that surely even the most credulous torygraph reader would question it?
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stev posted:Surely they make loads more money from full lockdown? It's loads of restaurants too. I guess deliveroo was just a succinct and useful name to put in the BBC headline. I also guess if all the restaurants go out of business that's bad for deliveroo even with their secret dark kitchens.
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