|
ONE YEAR LATER posted:Jimmy went to Westview to check on someone in the witness protection program, did they ever reveal who that person is? Is it important or just a plot device to set things in motion? They have not, I assume it was just to set things in motion though. Maybe in the wrap up they'll show him talking to someone and it'll be someone whose name is something in the comics or something.
|
#
?
Feb 15, 2021 22:43
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 23, 2024 21:07 |
|
|
ONE YEAR LATER posted:Jimmy went to Westview to check on someone in the witness protection program, did they ever reveal who that person is? Is it important or just a plot device to set things in motion?
|
|
#
?
Feb 15, 2021 22:51
|
|
|
Quiet Python posted:The thing I keep coming back to is Darcy's question "Why a sitcom?" If Wanda wanted to live an idyllic life with Vision and her kids, she could have wound up in a Disney movie or a historical romance or any other happy little genre setting. But we still don't know why Wandavision is a sitcom. I wonder if Pietro's comment that Wanda's parents "would love this" means that it was Wanda and Pietro's parents who were big fans of sitcoms and that's why Wanda finds the genre so comforting. It's the only connection to her parents she has left. Why a sitcom is easier if you ask "Why not a movie?" Movies end. There's a "Happily Ever After" but that happens off screen and so does it really happen? Sitcoms can go on forever, they can change form, change format, even change characters, but you can keep going. There's been soap operas on the air for 40 years straight with the same storyline and sometimes the same actors. If she doesn't want the happiness to end, it needs to be a TV show not a movie.
|
|
#
?
Feb 15, 2021 23:01
|
|
|
ONE YEAR LATER posted:Jimmy went to Westview to check on someone in the witness protection program, did they ever reveal who that person is? Is it important or just a plot device to set things in motion? Its gonna be Michael Keaton who snitched on people in prison.
|
|
#
?
Feb 15, 2021 23:09
|
|
|
swickles posted:Its gonna be Michael Keaton who snitched on people in prison. 
|
|
#
?
Feb 15, 2021 23:11
|
|
|
ONE YEAR LATER posted:Jimmy went to Westview to check on someone in the witness protection program, did they ever reveal who that person is? Is it important or just a plot device to set things in motion? I've kinda assumed that was a lie to get someone from Sword to show up. Given it hasn't been mentioned since, particularly through the entire sequence where they were identifying all the residents, I'd consider it lovely writing for it suddenly to be brought back up.
|
|
#
?
Feb 15, 2021 23:12
|
|
|
Yeah, at most you'll get a little one-liner about it in ep9. It's not like this thing with Monica's engineer friend that they made sure to pointedly bring up again.
|
|
#
?
Feb 15, 2021 23:16
|
|
|
My thoughts are that Agnes is in WitPro and that's why SWORD hasn't IDed her. The hints towards her dead husband as well, perhaps that's the case she's a witness to. Jimmy wouldn't be very outspoken about when he sees her on the TV and say to everyone: "Hey, that person is in Witness Protection." I think the Agatha Harkness hints are a red herring.
|
|
#
?
Feb 15, 2021 23:19
|
|
|
Just throwing it out there - if Agnes is literally just Agatha with the name changed to prevent the "spoiler" that's real dumb. At that point why even bother? Just change the name, it isn't as though her behavior has been super subtle about the character being important in some fashion.
|
|
#
?
Feb 15, 2021 23:21
|
|
|
ONE YEAR LATER posted:Jimmy went to Westview to check on someone in the witness protection program, did they ever reveal who that person is? Is it important or just a plot device to set things in motion? Wanda?
|
|
#
?
Feb 15, 2021 23:28
|
|
|
seaborgium posted:Why a sitcom is easier if you ask "Why not a movie?" Movies end. There's a "Happily Ever After" but that happens off screen and so does it really happen? Sitcoms can go on forever, they can change form, change format, even change characters, but you can keep going. There's been soap operas on the air for 40 years straight with the same storyline and sometimes the same actors. If she doesn't want the happiness to end, it needs to be a TV show not a movie. The sitcoms chosen also seem to hint at some unconscious turbulence in Wanda's mind; The Dick Van Dyke show- Innocent and idyllic family life early in the history of TV sitcoms where the most controversial thing that happened was the wife wore pants one time. Bewitched- A still fairly innocent show about trying to hide who you are from your neighbors and conforming to their expectations. The Brady Bunch- I don't know much about the show but probably something about tying disparate threads into a cohesive family. Family Ties- The central premise is a pair of aging radicals from the 60s coming to terms with their kids having grown up so fast and rejecting the social activism their parents embrace that age with the daughter being a crass consumerist and their son being a crass young republican. Essentially how to be a loving family despite your children being entirely alien to you. Malcolm in the Middle- A show with a mother and father who intensively love each other but sometimes forget that amidst an array of outside pressures. ^^^ It'll be his old partner Melinda May since Ming Na is contractually obligated to show up in every Disney tv show.
|
|
#
?
Feb 15, 2021 23:29
|
|
|
ONE YEAR LATER posted:Jimmy went to Westview to check on someone in the witness protection program, did they ever reveal who that person is? Is it important or just a plot device to set things in motion? It seems like it was just an excuse to get Jimmy there so he could set things in motion.
|
|
#
?
Feb 15, 2021 23:29
|
|
|
Boxman posted:Just throwing it out there - if Agnes is literally just Agatha with the name changed to prevent the "spoiler" that's real dumb. At that point why even bother? Just change the name, it isn't as though her behavior has been super subtle about the character being important in some fashion. To put a red herring in the mixture. It really doesn't need to be anything more than that. You say that it's not like the show has been super subtle about her character being important in some fashion, but the fact that you have to be so vague as "in some fashion" says enough really. We're 2/3rs of the way through, and Agnes has yet to do anything of import while every hint that she's important has been watered down with other people doing all the kinds of things that set her apart (like having some degree of conscious control or awareness of her situation). At this point, we have a good idea of what everyone bar maybe the one who set this all in motion wants, and there's no way that's Agnes because she's been too devoid of control for her to be the one who put everything in motion.
|
|
#
?
Feb 15, 2021 23:38
|
|
|
The X-man cometh posted:Other than the opening, I thought this episode was less like Malcolm in the Middle and more like a Nickelodeon series. This. it was very Clarissa explains it all/secret world of Alex mac.
|
|
#
?
Feb 15, 2021 23:41
|
|
|
seeing a lot of twitter folks talking poo poo about the article complaining about the speed of the show, and basically calling people who complain "broken" by binge shows. That's an amazing way of being condescending to folks for having criticisms of the show. For the record, I really didn't love the first three episodes but the last two have been super solid I don't mind waiting a week between episodes but splitting the narrative helped a great deal with it just doing sitcoms in the first three.
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 00:05
|
|
|
seaborgium posted:Why a sitcom is easier if you ask "Why not a movie?" Movies end. There's a "Happily Ever After" but that happens off screen and so does it really happen? Sitcoms can go on forever, they can change form, change format, even change characters, but you can keep going. There's been soap operas on the air for 40 years straight with the same storyline and sometimes the same actors. If she doesn't want the happiness to end, it needs to be a TV show not a movie. Also sitcoms play based on the reality that you know, idealized (for the most part) but somewhat familiar. So its reality but just slightly off from real reality.
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 00:35
|
|
|
Mooseontheloose posted:Also sitcoms play based on the reality that you know, idealized (for the most part) but somewhat familiar. So its reality but just slightly off from real reality. Oh yeah, there's a ton of reasons. I was just responding to why it wouldn't be movie.
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 00:37
|
|
|
I'm fine with the pacing of the show but, at the same time, I also feel like I'm being roundhouse-kicked every time the "Please Stand By" screen pops up.
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 00:44
|
|
|
I feel like the insanely long credits are going to be meaningful at some point
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 01:20
|
|
|
sebmojo posted:I feel like the insanely long credits are going to be meaningful at some point It's the same in Mandalorian. Just seems to be a D+ thing.
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 01:43
|
|
|
Yeah, because most of the Disney+ shows hit multiple territories at the same time, they just do one huge credits run, and not unique credits for reach country.
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 02:14
|
|
|
Why would Jimmy have mentioned the name of the person in the Witness Protection Program he was looking into? How would that possibly have organically come up when he's talking to people that aren't even in the same agency? "So I came to Westview to check on someone who's identity I'm trying to keep a secret, btw his full real name is John Snitcherson just in case you were wondering, anyway..."
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 03:39
|
|
|
What if Jimmy learned the magic trick so the FBI just assigned him all magic-related witnesses as a joke to deal with the trauma of the Snap?
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 04:11
|
|
|
Tars Tarkas posted:What if Jimmy learned the magic trick so the FBI just assigned him all magic-related witnesses as a joke to deal with the trauma of the Snap? No, they obviously assigned him all the magic cases because he do the magic.
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 04:16
|
|
|
tsob posted:I disagree. I suppose on a technical level then someone could point at it and go "see; foreshadowing", but I'd still be inclined to tell them to go gently caress themselves because the way the scene is constructed it doesn't work at all as Agnes actually issuing a command. When you isolate the scene, Agnes doesn't even sound confused or scared. Wanda and Vis do, but she's speaking in a pretty transactional way that feels like she's clarifying. Her "Take it from the top line" really does sound like she's taking lead.
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 05:04
|
|
|
Timeless Appeal posted:Well, I really disagree. Yea, she's the controller, or maybe more accruately, The Director.
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 05:10
|
|
|
The last shot of the show is everyone, including Vision, dead around Wanda, and she just kind of has a puzzled look. And then the Curb your Enthusiasm music plays.
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 05:22
|
|
|
twistedmentat posted:Yea, she's the controller, or maybe more accruately, The Director. I reckon this dovetails in with how she seems to be playing a part for Vision last episode rather than genuinely briefly freed from the Hex's control. She's trying to direct the scenes, and she's changing up her tactics as necessary. Exactly what she's trying to do is unclear, but does seem like she's trying both to mollify Wanda and encourage Vision to investigate... which makes sense, since it's clear Wanda can come and go from the Hex as she pleases, and does not respond well to anyone trying to pierce her bubble.
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 06:56
|
|
|
Ghost Leviathan posted:I reckon this dovetails in with how she seems to be playing a part for Vision last episode rather than genuinely briefly freed from the Hex's control. She's trying to direct the scenes, and she's changing up her tactics as necessary. Exactly what she's trying to do is unclear, but does seem like she's trying both to mollify Wanda and encourage Vision to investigate... which makes sense, since it's clear Wanda can come and go from the Hex as she pleases, and does not respond well to anyone trying to pierce her bubble. There is a clear objective and end to all this, its not just Wanda trying to create a happy life for herself. Maybe someone wants the Mind Stone and believes that Wanda can recreate it though her powers.
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 09:03
|
|
|
twistedmentat posted:Yea, she's the controller, or maybe more accruately, The Director. Mojo? Mojo! It's not Mojo 
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 11:34
|
|
|
Wife just had an idea -- the person in WitSec might not be a mob snitch or whatever, but a woman in some kind of galactic WitSec, hiding in Westview with her foster-son. Explains why Skrulls are on the big board, explains why West Coast agent with a specialty in hero nonsense is the agent on the spot, offers an opportunity for a story for teen Billy, and fills in the last major Young Avenger.
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 13:54
|
|
|
twistedmentat posted:Yea, she's the controller, or maybe more accruately, The Director. An actor and director in the MCU? It can only be one person. He’s been there the whole time! Jon Favreau!
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 15:04
|
|
|
twistedmentat posted:Yea, she's the controller, or maybe more accruately, The Director. I didn't get that. She's an actress in a show. She defaults to bored professionalism, the same way an actual actor would.
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 15:09
|
|
|
these sorts of docs tend to be pretty bland, but this is airing the week after the finale so it could potentially be more interesting given that it can get into the entire series https://twitter.com/MarvelStudios/status/1361676709179891718
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 15:34
|
|
|
Phylodox posted:I didn't get that. She's an actress in a show. She defaults to bored professionalism, the same way an actual actor would. There's been way too much going on with Agnes for her to just be some townie trapped in there like everyone else.
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 15:43
|
|
Cat Army
|
LionArcher posted:seeing a lot of twitter folks talking poo poo about the article complaining about the speed of the show, and basically calling people who complain "broken" by binge shows. That's an amazing way of being condescending to folks for having criticisms of the show. I'm very much enjoying WandaVision, but I definitely think it's made some questionable pacing decisions up to this point. That said, I'll probably do a binge rewatch shortly after the finale premieres to see if it holds up better when viewed in that fashion. some of the defenses of the pacing in response to criticism are truly inane, I agree, such as "of course it feels like a movie split into episodes, that's a TV show!" (well, no, actually, that really hasn't been a common narrative model, even for heavily serialized shows, for the vast majority of the medium's history) or the somewhat similar "you can't criticize the pacing when you haven't even watched the whole thing yet!" (as though there's something wrong with critically evaluating the show on the basis of how Disney/Marvel are choosing to release it; they could have done the Netflix binge model if they wanted to)
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 15:43
|
|
|
Barry Convex posted:these sorts of docs tend to be pretty bland, but this is airing the week after the finale so it could potentially be more interesting given that it can get into the entire series DISassembled
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 15:55
|
|
|
ONE YEAR LATER posted:Jimmy went to Westview to check on someone in the witness protection program, did they ever reveal who that person is? Is it important or just a plot device to set things in motion? Jimmy is gonna visit him in the post credits scene and asks the witness if he's okay. "I don't feel so good...bub."
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 15:59
|
|
|
Ouhei posted:There's been way too much going on with Agnes for her to just be some townie trapped in there like everyone else. I absolutely think it's Wanda all the way down. Maybe Agnes has magical powers or maybe she's just particularly strong-willed, that may be a plot point later, but I very much doubt she's behind anything.
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 16:07
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 23, 2024 21:07 |
|
|
Phylodox posted:I absolutely think it's Wanda all the way down. Maybe Agnes has magical powers or maybe she's just particularly strong-willed, that may be a plot point later, but I very much doubt she's behind anything.
|
|
#
?
Feb 16, 2021 16:31
|
|
