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Who Killed WCW?
Eric Bischoff
Hulk Hogan
Vince Russo
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Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

Alaois posted:

I'm like 90% sure that Glacier's run in WCW was literally coincidental to Scorp's run as Flash Funk in WWF

Tenures in the big 3:

Scorpio (Worked as Flash Funk for the start of his WWF run, then went back to Scorpio, then the 00s return was going to be as Flash Funk):
- WCW - 92-94
- ECW - 94-96
- WWF - 96-99, and 2006-07 (but never appeared on TV)

Ice Train:
- WCW - 93-96, 97-98, 2000-01

Glacier:
- WCW - 96-99 (towards the end, he appeared as a whole new coach character, which I had no recollection of)



So the best that could have possibly happened would have been ... Glacier Train?

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TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

Someone really needed to have an intervention with Nash about the makeup and wigs poo poo. Nash isn't nearly as funny as he thinks and they all drag so long.

EDIT
Oh sonofabitch. The luchadores in a pinata on a pole match with Oklahoma on commentary may be the worst segment I've seen in this entire marathon. I'm trying to will Ed Ferrara's head to explode like in Scanners.

TheKingslayer fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Feb 12, 2021

SLUM KING
Nov 16, 2011


Why is Larry saying Bret is in the nwo? Didn’t he come in as a face?

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

SLUM KING posted:

Why is Larry saying Bret is in the nwo? Didn’t he come in as a face?

Because the nWo acted like Bret was joining to make it seem like he was going to screw Larry at Starrcade.

Hedgehog Pie
May 19, 2012

Total fuckin' silence.
Hogan: "Hahaha, oh man, Bret "Hitman" Hart, what did you get me for Christmas brother?" ... :stonk:

Bischoff: :whitewater:

Bret: :geno:

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
Well, just found out why randaconda hasn’t been doing image dumps in this thread for a while.

rujasu
Dec 19, 2013

On that note, I'd just like to point out that this thread is over a decade old and it might be a nice time for a reboot.

Rusty Shackelford
Feb 7, 2005
This thread has been around for about a year less than WCW was. We've got to keep it going.

FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo

Rusty Shackelford posted:

This thread has been around for about a year less than WCW was. We've got to keep it going.
:agreed:

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
I will keep the OP updated will all upcoming WCW shows.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




MassRafTer posted:

I will keep the OP updated will all upcoming WCW shows.

Please do not fix the OP, the broken links are funny.

Hedgehog Pie
May 19, 2012

Total fuckin' silence.
We'll have to update it in November when the WCW reboot happens with Vince's full permission.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

rujasu posted:

On that note, I'd just like to point out that this thread is over a decade old and it might be a nice time for a reboot.

That's what they said about WCW too.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Jonny Nox posted:

Please do not fix the OP, the broken links are funny.

I need to at least fix the link for the Tony song it's very good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gV6rLalaaE

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Too horny for Alex Wright?

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
That would be me. Randaconda is doing seven years for possession of child pornography.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Pope Corky the IX posted:

That would be me. Randaconda is doing seven years for possession of child pornography.

.....if this is a bit, I'm not into it

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?

El Gallinero Gros posted:

.....if this is a bit, I'm not into it

I am the one that is horny for Alex Wright, that was what I meant by that part.

Randaconda hasn’t posted since August of last year which was the day he was arrested. He was convicted and sentenced to seven years. This was only found out by Florida goons over the last two days. Unfortunately not a bit.

EDIT: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3958642

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Pope Corky the IX posted:

I am the one that is horny for Alex Wright, that was what I meant by that part.

Randaconda hasn’t posted since August of last year which was the day he was arrested. He was convicted and sentenced to seven years. This was only found out by Florida goons over the last two days. Unfortunately not a bit.

I was referring to Randaconda specifically, you be as horny for Das Wunderkind as you want

It occurs to me that being in a FLA jail rn would be especially awful, probably covid central assuming he's not in protective custody

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Feb 12, 2021

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

One a lighter note, one of my favorite things in wrestling is when a promotion decides that instant replay suddenly exists to cheat the fans out of a happy ending. It feels like one of the most lovely things you can suddenly pull on the audience...

So of course Russo books it when Larry beats Hennig to get rid of The Powers That Be.

Hedgehog Pie
May 19, 2012

Total fuckin' silence.
Or you could use it to do a hilarious NFL or baseball or whatever parody on your biggest show of the year!

CptAwesome
Nov 2, 2005

In kayfabe, is Goldberg the "best" wrestler ever? In terms of win rate and how he was booked, and who he has beaten.

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

CptAwesome posted:

In kayfabe, is Goldberg the "best" wrestler ever? In terms of win rate and how he was booked, and who he has beaten.

Probably somebody like Thesz, Sammartino or Andre.

Goldberg had plenty of decisive wins, as in short dominating matches, but he was also involved in a lot of bullshit. Thesz and Sammartino were from the era where titles were very protected, making both look very strong, and both were at the very top of the cards for a long time.

Andre's job was to go around and massacre people and kayfabe-wise, he was extremely good at it. He was the babyface feud settler and was very rarely put in position to lose.

Hogan and Ultimate Warrior were barely touched for years as well. Warrior's stamina wasn't great, so he won fast, easily and quickly. As Warrior, he might have a higher win percentage than Hogan.

rujasu
Dec 19, 2013

I'm sure there's a ton missing from this, especially in terms of older wrestlers, but: http://www.profightdb.com/wrestlers-with-highest-win-percentages.html

Cena sticks out to me as a guy who, while not quite as protected as Goldberg in WCW or Warrior in WWF, had a much longer period of dominance, and seems like a guy who beat lots of big names, in contrast to Goldberg having a Jerry Flynn or Scott Putski sacrificed to him every night. I'd say he's similar to a Sammartino or Andre in terms of being the top guy for a long time, but it's tough to compare between eras in terms of who had tougher opponents.

CptAwesome
Nov 2, 2005

4th is pretty good. I was thinking of his return too, and how.that might be considered. Comes back after 12 and a half years and beats Brock, the streak ender, in a couple of minutes. Also going over the Fiend in his only pinfall loss too.

I think comparing wrestlers after the advent of weekly shows where the big stars wrestle each other more often to the old days where it was squash matches is difficult.

Also The Shockmaster has the 9th best win record which is pretty funny

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Didn't Bruno have something like a 2 year title reign at one point?

CptAwesome
Nov 2, 2005

He held it for 2803 days, and a quick check on pro fight tells me he defended it 77 times over that period, so roughly one defence every 36 days

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


CptAwesome posted:

He held it for 2803 days, and a quick check on pro fight tells me he defended it 77 times over that period, so roughly one defence every 36 days

lol jesus

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



DJExile posted:

Didn't Bruno have something like a 2 year title reign at one point?

Two reigns. First was seven years, second was four years.

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

CptAwesome posted:

He held it for 2803 days, and a quick check on pro fight tells me he defended it 77 times over that period, so roughly one defence every 36 days

Wrestling Data is a lot more thorough.

Wrestling Data doesn't seem to have a percentage rating, but wrestlers with the highest differential of wins over losses:

Giant Baba
Antonio Inoki
Thesz
Johnny Weaver
George Becker
Andre
Dusty Rhodes
Seiji Sakaguchi
Tatsumi Fujinami
Buddy Rogers

(Sammartino is 11th, Cena is 17th, 'Taker is 18th and Hogan is 20th.)

For known Baba matches, he's 4,468-1,025 with 506 draws. He also has more matches in the database than anyone else.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

RC and Moon Pie posted:

Wrestling Data is a lot more thorough.

Wrestling Data doesn't seem to have a percentage rating, but wrestlers with the highest differential of wins over losses:

Giant Baba
Antonio Inoki
Thesz
Johnny Weaver
George Becker
Andre
Dusty Rhodes
Seiji Sakaguchi
Tatsumi Fujinami
Buddy Rogers

(Sammartino is 11th, Cena is 17th, 'Taker is 18th and Hogan is 20th.)

For known Baba matches, he's 4,468-1,025 with 506 draws. He also has more matches in the database than anyone else.

I'd have thought Mil Mascaras would be somewhere in there, to be honest.

The American Dream
Mar 1, 2007
Don't Forget My Balls

CptAwesome posted:

He held it for 2803 days, and a quick check on pro fight tells me he defended it 77 times over that period, so roughly one defence every 36 days

So back then was sammartino doing a lot of non title matches? Seems like a smart move to keep the #1 contender spot valuable.

smikey
May 22, 2004
It's not a hootenanny, it's an extravsganza!

The American Dream posted:

So back then was sammartino doing a lot of non title matches? Seems like a smart move to keep the #1 contender spot valuable.

There wasn't much TV apart from the regional MGS network, and Bruno got to a point where he really only showed for the monthly-ish MGS show.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Pretty sure there were also quite a few matches with freelancers or workers loaned from other promotions where the matches would end in some sort of gently caress finish as well.

D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012

Sheamus was the WWE Champion when this thread started in 2009; the thread has been around almost as long as WCW was and also this weekend Sheamus is in an Elimination Chamber match for the WWE Championship.

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

Pretty sure if we're not counting house shows or whatever, Warrior only lost WWE matches to Rick Rude and Sergeant Slaughter. Both of which were outside interference

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

DeathChicken posted:

Pretty sure if we're not counting house shows or whatever, Warrior only lost WWE matches to Rick Rude and Sergeant Slaughter. Both of which were outside interference

Cagematch sez Savage beat him at an MSG TV show after the Rumble; this happened more than once for Savage, and it looks like Honky Tonk beat Warrior a few times by countout on the same platform. What was MSG TV? Was it only broadcast in New York?

https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=18605

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

It looks like it's a regional network that broadcasts MSG-related events, so I'm gonna go ahead and guess they're basically glorified house shows.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



https://twitter.com/KrisZellner/status/1332154014352470018?s=20

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edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

I hope Andre farted on his chest. gently caress Warrior, the miserable prick.

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