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Max Wilco posted:Did I make a mistake in buying Street Fighter 5? Graphic fidelity aside, the thread is making it sound like it's still bad. Play what you like imo, so if you like SFV play SFV The game play at this point is just not what a lot of the thread is looking for, and imo there's some actively bad design decisions in the game. But honestly none of that matters if you're enjoying it, god knows I love some terrible games
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Max Wilco posted:Did I make a mistake in buying Street Fighter 5? Graphic fidelity aside, the thread is making it sound like it's still bad. Just play it and see if you like. Not much point in getting it if you're going to base your opinion on what a dead comedy forum says instead of your own experiences. Personally I like to play SFV from time to time. Mostly because they brought back Alex. I love Alex. He's my favorite meat mountain.
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Feb 17, 2021 16:44
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I don't understand the Street Fighter 5 hate, but I started playing it when the Championship edition came out and you got a game with a large player base, 40 characters, rollback netcode, and crossplay for only 30 dollars. I heard the initial release in 2016 (!!!!!) was rough.
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Feb 17, 2021 17:02
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Besides the game itself being a lot less good in 2016, it also didn’t have arcade mode or story mode. It was basically just ranked/unranked online, offline versus, barebones training mode, and survival. It had 16 characters which is a good number, though
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Feb 17, 2021 17:08
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imagine playing a fighting game you actually liked, that's a silly concept that's why I play Tekken (edit: because I don't like Tekken) tracecomplete fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Feb 17, 2021 |
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Feb 17, 2021 17:10
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Archer666 posted:Just play it and see if you like. Not much point in getting it if you're going to base your opinion on what a dead comedy forum says instead of your own experiences. I also play Alex because powerbombs are cool, and he's got nowhere to go but up in season 5! Which is also true for the other characters I like. And yeah, don't listen to this boomer and wannabe boomer-rear end thread and play what you like. If SF5 ends up not landing for you, that's fine. If you like it, ignore what anyone in here says about it. chumbler fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Feb 17, 2021 |
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Feb 17, 2021 17:32
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Max Wilco posted:Did I make a mistake in buying Street Fighter 5? Graphic fidelity aside, the thread is making it sound like it's still bad. it's fine, don't worry what most people here say. it's probably the best it's ever been rn, and it's one of the 4 games where matchmaking is actually active.
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Feb 17, 2021 17:41
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Max Wilco posted:Did I make a mistake in buying Street Fighter 5? Graphic fidelity aside, the thread is making it sound like it's still bad. A lot of people here, including myself, don’t personally like the game for various reasons but no one here is going to tell you that you’re wrong for liking the game if you do end up liking it. Just know with the other SFV thread on SA kinda slow, you’ll probably need to go off-site to have some more in-depth convos about the game itself with others who like it just as much
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Feb 17, 2021 17:48
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playing a game that has actual players that you can connect with quickly is a hundred times better than one where you have the same 5 people on discord and no one else ever again
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SFV is fine, now. At launch it was bad and it's made some dumb self-owns during it's life, especially considering the netcode, but it's also received post-launch support above and beyond what most games would dream of and has repeatedly repackaged itself to give new players point of entry, so it's player base hasn't had the same degree of bleedout DBFZ or Tekken has. It's still SFV and some people really hate the core changes the game has made (it's very prone to large blowups since execution and reaction times to hits are both very generous and a lot of stuff create powerful juggle states, so pulling off big poo poo is easier then ever, it might be the most meter-dependent modern era fighter as a lot of kits without EX or V-meter can be kinda helpless on defense) but it's a much improved and polished version of what it is. It's not amazing, it's fine, but 'fine' is where most of the current batch of games have wound up with DBFZ finally not being dogshit with it's season 3 and Tekken... digging itself a hole with it's own S3. They're still making major changes to the game mechanics to address complaints and balance issues. The game at this EXACT moment is a pretty solid game if you like the SF style footsies-and-spacing style fighter and while I don't know how much next week's system update will shake things up, I doubt it'll go without some changes if it turns out to need them. Mr. Locke fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Feb 17, 2021 |
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Feb 17, 2021 17:58
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vshift might gently caress that game up tho lol, it looks real dumb.
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Feb 17, 2021 18:05
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Extra Large Marge posted:I don't understand the Street Fighter 5 hate, but I started playing it when the Championship edition came out and you got a game with a large player base, 40 characters, rollback netcode, and crossplay for only 30 dollars. Netcode is trashfire.
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Feb 17, 2021 18:14
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Jack Trades posted:Netcode is trashfire. But I was told it's got rollback!
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Feb 17, 2021 18:16
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You'd have to rewind the clock years and view everything from an AssCreed tower to dissect why "SFV is bad" is good and true Play what you like though dude if you enjoy it!
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Feb 17, 2021 18:21
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Hace posted:vshift might gently caress that game up tho lol, it looks real dumb. dumb as hell but ill have a couple fun weeks making shotos mad if it works out ok
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Feb 17, 2021 18:22
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Jack Trades posted:Netcode is trashfire. it's honestly fine now. I wouldn't call it great or anything close to +R or Strive, but it's no longer broken in the way it had been for a long time.
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It's still better than bbtag netcode sadly
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I am hopeful for the SF5 balance update even setting aside v-shift, because they actually showed in the trailer that they'll fix dumb poo poo like Chun's v-skill 2 or Juri's v-trigger 2 being completely useless, so they're at least clearly aware of stuff that just doesn't work. I'm willing to believe they'll make reasonably large changes that a lot of characters need to really feel complete or have decisions to make between v skills/triggers. It's like they had some sort of leadership change or something.
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Feb 17, 2021 20:14
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Saoshyant posted:But I was told it's got rollback!
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Feb 17, 2021 20:14
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i feel like everyone just forgot about the time sfv installed a rootkit on your computer
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Feb 17, 2021 20:19
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i guess they've fixed it since but SFV's rollback implementation was initially so bad that it poisoned the well and probably set demand for / acceptance of rollback netcode back by years
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:i guess they've fixed it since but SFV's rollback implementation was initially so bad that it poisoned the well and probably set demand for / acceptance of rollback netcode back by years "Look at SFV, we don't need rollback netcode, we're just fine with delay-based netcode, my connection is always fine!" *Goes back to playing DBFZ in 17f delay where fullscreen Super Dash is unreactable*
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Feb 17, 2021 20:29
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remember when sf4 went from gfwl to steamworks
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Hace posted:it's honestly fine now. I wouldn't call it great or anything close to +R or Strive, but it's no longer broken in the way it had been for a long time. Does "fine" include fixed one-sided rollback? Cause last I've seen it's still not fixed.
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Feb 17, 2021 20:44
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Jack Trades posted:Does "fine" include fixed one-sided rollback? Cause last I've seen it's still not fixed. Yeah that's what the whole update probably a year back was about, now it does constant corrections and pauses that everyone hates instead.
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it remains to be seen if the strive netcode can pass the greatest test: brazilian wifi players
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Feb 17, 2021 21:21
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V-Shift is gonna be so loving wild. Can't wait for shimmies to become the primary offensive verb.
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Extra Large Marge posted:I don't understand the Street Fighter 5 hate, but I started playing it when the Championship edition came out and you got a game with a large player base, 40 characters, rollback netcode, and crossplay for only 30 dollars. Tuxedo Catfish posted:i guess they've fixed it since but SFV's rollback implementation was initially so bad that it poisoned the well and probably set demand for / acceptance of rollback netcode back by years Yeah, the netcode is still bad. There's nothing close to like the fix Tekken managed.
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dragon enthusiast posted:it remains to be seen if the strive netcode can pass the greatest test: brazilian wifi players does anyone know what the deal is w/ brazillian internet? I thought I read something before about all of the net routing going thru florida which makes every connection to brazil take longer basically. I play with south american players on fightcade all the time and I usually have a max of like a 180 ping with ppl in like uruguay and chile but its always over 200 from brazil even though its closer. why is this?
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Zand posted:does anyone know what the deal is w/ brazillian internet? I thought I read something before about all of the net routing going thru florida which makes every connection to brazil take longer basically. I play with south american players on fightcade all the time and I usually have a max of like a 180 ping with ppl in like uruguay and chile but its always over 200 from brazil even though its closer. why is this? The Brazilian ISPs basically don't peer with each other and there's not many internet exchanges either, it's basically the wild west and it's easier to route through the USA even for in-country hosts. Their internet is a shitshow as a result, the previous government was really slapping down the ISPs for poor performance but I assume under the current mob it's corruption central again
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Zand posted:does anyone know what the deal is w/ brazillian internet? I thought I read something before about all of the net routing going thru florida which makes every connection to brazil take longer basically. I play with south american players on fightcade all the time and I usually have a max of like a 180 ping with ppl in like uruguay and chile but its always over 200 from brazil even though its closer. why is this? Yeah, basically the routing is hosed + average infrastructure is bad, also it's a continent-sized country, so sometimes you match up with people from the South like me and it's kinda impossible to get under 200 if you're in NA. I think Northeast people actually have decent routes to the USA, sometimes they have a better time playing with Mexicans than Southern Brazilians too.
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Brazil's infrastructure is problematic to say the least.
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Elvis_Maximus posted:The pixel lobby is kinda a neat idea, but it's just so clunky. I definitely see how someone convinced management to go with it though Oh, good. Interest repiqued EDIT: Also SFV is very good and is still one of my main fighting games though I prefer Samsho and KOFXIV FrostyPox fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Feb 18, 2021 |
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Spuckuk posted:Yeah, the netcode is still bad. There's nothing close to like the fix Tekken managed. I started accepting wifi matches just because I can’t tell the difference between wifi and wired anymore, but this is not the ringing endorsement I wish it was Tldr all fighting games are bad
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I'm super stoked for strive as the netcode is apparently good.
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If strive has instant rematch and simultaneous matches in a private lobby then it will have one of the most robust online experiences for a fighting game which is pretty sad if you think about it.
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the strive beta is installed on my playstation but launchable via the store only. no tile on the homescreen. weird.
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Feb 18, 2021 01:18
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I wish Yoshida-san would let me download my loving beta.
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Also in stick news, I got an 8bitdo stick. For $89 I think it’s better stock than a quanba drone but it’s kind of annoying to replace parts. The screw holes are deep torx screws so I have to use a dedicated t10 driver to get them out. There are pads to solder on a 5 pin JLF harness but the stock wiring for the lever is just soldered on directly to the micro switches. Other than that the quality is really good and it has a battery on the base for connecting to the switch or PC over Bluetooth or WiFi with an included adaptor so it has a very satisfying weight. The PCB is only for Switch and PC but overall I really like it.
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Real hurthling! posted:the strive beta is installed on my playstation but launchable via the store only. no tile on the homescreen. weird. I wonder if it won't show up on the homescreen until 7pm pacific.
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