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feedmegin posted:You could always learn Greek yeah next time I have a thousand spare hours I'll definitely spend it on that
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cheetah7071 posted:yeah next time I have a thousand spare hours I'll definitely spend it on that For a more serious answer, the Oxford Classics edition is another good option if you can't get ahold of the Landmark edition. I don't have their version of the Anabasis, but their other works are always good. Their version also includes the Indica, which I don't think the Landmark edition does. https://www.amazon.com/Alexander-Great-Anabasis-Indica-Classics/dp/0199587248
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Phobophilia posted:Ah the movie did the Gondorian countryside dirty, the Pelennor was described as heavily cultivated in the books, which entirely makes sense because you need a ton of farmland around any city to feed it with bread and chickens and cherry tomatoes for Denethor to messily crunch in his mouth. But even the books were rather sparse with details of rural economies outside of the Shire. I think that's because modern farmers are more annoyed at people filming stomping around in their fields than shepards, and modern wheat fields might have more details that are harder to edit out. Although there could be some kind of grand opinion of what pastoral beauty should be going on there.
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CrypticFox posted:For a more serious answer, the Oxford Classics edition is another good option if you can't get ahold of the Landmark edition. I don't have their version of the Anabasis, but their other works are always good. Their version also includes the Indica, which I don't think the Landmark edition does. Oh Landmark has just had it as "coming soon" on their website for years and I just looked it up and it's finally coming out this December. I'll just wait after all.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I think that's because modern farmers are more annoyed at people filming stomping around in their fields than shepards, and modern wheat fields might have more details that are harder to edit out.
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It's not that hard to get permission from farmers to film on theire land, and there was no lack of intensive cultivation at the shire. Instead Jackson made a deliberate decision to minimize how much agriculture, how much history was visible in the latter two films. It makes for some gorgeous sweeping shots but kind of goes against historicity, all in service of trying to emphasize the almost post-apocalyptic vibe of the third age, the old medieval world of the elves and Numenor was dying away.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I think that's because modern farmers are more annoyed at people filming stomping around in their fields than shepards, and modern wheat fields might have more details that are harder to edit out. That didn’t keep Jackson from showing maize fields in FotR. Shut up, potatoes and tobacco may be canon, but Tolkien never mentioned maize. 
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Yeah all those communities should have been exploding outwards with how much empty land there is. Kings struggling to keep everyone under control because they can just up and leave. Would be an interesting setting, but then you'd have to find an explanation for why this is happening only now.
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aphid_licker posted:Yeah all those communities should have been exploding outwards with how much empty land there is. Kings struggling to keep everyone under control because they can just up and leave. Would be an interesting setting, but then you'd have to find an explanation for why this is happening only now. no because the people who don't live in places where they are protected by high level characters get put on orc menus
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Zopotantor posted:That didn’t keep Jackson from showing maize fields in FotR. Shut up, potatoes and tobacco may be canon, but Tolkien never mentioned maize. Well....'pipeweed'. Which could be something other than tobacco 
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feedmegin posted:Well....'pipeweed'. Which could be something other than tobacco In a 1966 interview, Tolkien said: "Every morning I wake up thinking, 'Good, another 24 hours of smoking'". Charlotte and Denis Plimmer, "The Man Who Understands Hobbits", The Daily Telegraph Magazine (22 March 1968)
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ChubbyChecker posted:In a 1966 interview, Tolkien said: "Every morning I wake up thinking, 'Good, another 24 hours of smoking'". ...which could STILL be something other than tobacco 
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feedmegin posted:...which could STILL be something other than tobacco It’s tobacco
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a fatguy baldspot posted:It’s tobacco no it's westman's-weed
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Phobophilia posted:It's not that hard to get permission from farmers to film on theire land, and there was no lack of intensive cultivation at the shire. Instead Jackson made a deliberate decision to minimize how much agriculture, how much history was visible in the latter two films. It makes for some gorgeous sweeping shots but kind of goes against historicity, all in service of trying to emphasize the almost post-apocalyptic vibe of the third age, the old medieval world of the elves and Numenor was dying away. I think putting the big battle scene on a intensively-farmed landscape would have been too difficult for the CGI of the time, and too dangerous to do with practical effects (riding horses can be hazardous by itself, best to keep it simple on flat terrain), and way more expensive either way, even in the context of the LOTR budget.
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John “Ras Ronald” Tolkien
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a fatguy baldspot posted:John “Ras Ronald” Tolkien Jah Ras Reefer Toke-ien
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feedmegin posted:Well....'pipeweed'. Which could be something other than tobacco Nice, but the prologue explicitly says it was "a variety probably of Nicotiana."
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Zopotantor posted:Nice, but the prologue explicitly says it was "a variety probably of Nicotiana." Literally the next sentence calls it 'tobacco'
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cheetah7071 posted:Oh Landmark has just had it as "coming soon" on their website for years and I just looked it up and it's finally coming out this December. I'll just wait after all. Are we talking about the same Anabasis? The Anabasis of Alexander by Arrian has a landmark version that has been released under the name "The Landmark Arrian." the forthcoming landmark work is Xenophon's Anabasis, which is a separate work not about Alexander.
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CrypticFox posted:Are we talking about the same Anabasis? The Anabasis of Alexander by Arrian has a landmark version that has been released under the name "The Landmark Arrian." the forthcoming landmark work is Xenophon's Anabasis, which is a separate work not about Alexander. I was talking about Xenophon's, yeah. Thought it was clear from context.
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cheetah7071 posted:I was talking about Xenophon's, yeah. Thought it was clear from context. Ah, I thought we were talking about Arrian since your first post was right after the conversation about Alexander's army. My bad.
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Kylaer posted:I think putting the big battle scene on a intensively-farmed landscape would have been too difficult for the CGI of the time, and too dangerous to do with practical effects (riding horses can be hazardous by itself, best to keep it simple on flat terrain), and way more expensive either way, even in the context of the LOTR budget. Oh fair enough about performing stunts around fields and hedgerows. But they could always have the land right around Minas Tirith be majority grassland, and have the Witch King's march down the road from the Anduin to Minas Tirith be past lots of burning farmland, that doesn't cost too much in sfx budget.
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Is that a 420 blazer he's wearing
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Eriador is supposed to be kind of a desolated wasteland when our characters are walking around it. The kingdoms there have been ravaged.
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Cool thread https://twitter.com/optimoprincipi/status/1361980297919803392?s=21
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Bobby Digital posted:Cool thread drat, all that hard work and he just dropped it overboard.
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skasion posted:drat, all that hard work and he just dropped it overboard. By law this obligated him another 26 years of service
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Pretty much the same as today, average was 20-ish.
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Why was it 25 for army and 26 for navy?
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euphronius posted:What age did they start ? 15? Probably whenever they could convince the army they were a man. It’s not like there were birth certificates
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Nessus posted:Why was it 25 for army and 26 for navy? Cause navy is chiller? you even get to sit down when rowing
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Nuclear War posted:Cause navy is chiller? you even get to sit down when rowing In the mediterranean during the pax romana your biggest enemy is probably gravity while drunk and also the clap
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Honestly you were probably more likely to die in the navy. I have no idea why there's a difference.
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The answer is simple, it's because navis longa
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Are there any statistics or educated guesses on the proportion of people that managed to do their 25 years and claim the citizenship?
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Grand Fromage posted:Honestly you were probably more likely to die in the navy. I have no idea why there's a difference. they rarely operated in hostile territory during the imperial era lol, they basically always had served in a support role for the army and once they conquered the mediterranean they pretty much just patrolled for pirates and revenue, plus river logistics for the army heck was there even an emperor who rose up through the navy specifically?
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