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TLJ is the loving bastion for "The media i consume is activism" and for that alone it deserves so much worse than anything it's ever gotten. I don't think I've even seen Harry Potter brain get this bad.
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Feb 19, 2021 11:12
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Oh word?
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Feb 19, 2021 11:15
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Nah man it's cool just japing just keep funnelling that money into the mouth of the hell corporation they love you.
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Feb 19, 2021 11:19
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Vagabundo posted:It's not just unsalvageably bad, it's a loving cowardly and pathetic movie. Cutting down on Rose Tico's role from what had originally been written is nothing more than a capitulation to racist nazi shitfucks. Same. I was ready to walk out of it within the first 20 minutes, but I was seeing it with someone else and stuck it up. Apparently there's a subset of the same lovely nerds who don't know what they want and just keep screaming that gave us Rise of Skywalker in the first place who are now convinced that there's a Snyder Cut of The Rise of Skywalker that's like three and half hours long and is the ultimate key to everything that will make the Sequel Trilogy work and sooth rugburn that is The Last Jedi inside their ragebrains if only Disney had the balls to I hate Star Wars and people who like Star Wars and people who hate Star Wars.
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Feb 19, 2021 11:21
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Terrible Opinions posted:I just gotta say this right here from the beginning is an unsalvageably bad idea for a continuous story of big movies. One of the stories that sticks out was how Johnson had to have JJ panic remake the ending shot of Force Awakens. The Luke reveal was originally going to have him meditating and twirling rocks around and Johnson had to jump in to point out that he was writing Luke as a disgruntled Jedi who'd given up the force. I don't know how you're supposed to really make a trilogy when the visions are that far apart. It was an interesting idea, but not a good one. Also the funnier thing where they were so sure that Solo was going to be a big hit, and that they'd sell so many pairs of Han's iconic dice. that they bothered everyone to make sure to include them in pivotal shots.
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Feb 19, 2021 11:22
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:Nah man it's cool just japing just keep funnelling that money into the mouth of the hell corporation they love you. is that what is going on here?
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Feb 19, 2021 11:23
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I mean I get not wanting to give disney anymore money in any context but harry potter wormbrains are way more common and insidious than star wars fans whinging about space wizards in my experience.
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Feb 19, 2021 11:27
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:Nah man it's cool just japing just keep funnelling that money into the mouth of the hell corporation they love you. This is why I find it hard to get out of bed in the morning. Why should I do anything if it's just going to benefit a corporation?
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Feb 19, 2021 11:29
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BFC posted:I mean I get not wanting to give disney anymore money in any context but harry potter wormbrains are way more common and insidious than star wars fans whinging about space wizards in my experience. I might be a dummy but was there ever a huge merchandising block of Death Eater costumes and stuff like there was for Stormtroopers?
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Feb 19, 2021 11:30
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There was a very vocal contingent of the consumption as activism crowd even on this forum, who for a month or so after TLJs release were pretty gung ho on the idea that if you had any criticism of Holdos action whatsoever you were a horrible monster no matter what they were. This faction died off and shut up pretty quick after the hype period died and people had time to both do rewatches and cool down. Also the nazi contingent moved on and thus the hackles up factor was removed. Holdo as written would be another nicholson AFGM in continued time of military service and is a trash character protected by the script.
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Feb 19, 2021 11:33
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RareAcumen posted:I might be a dummy but was there ever a huge merchandising block of Death Eater costumes and stuff like there was for Stormtroopers? The very idea of wizards being inherently superior to normal human beings without magical powers which were tied directly to bloodlines which in turn bestowed unfathomable wealth, power, prestige, privilege and opportunity upon an incredibly select few and that this was portrayed as a good and normal thing in the series' universe was much more insidious than selling toys of plastic space fascist grunt troopers.
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Feb 19, 2021 11:36
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I don’t give a poo poo but my problem was I couldn’t enjoy the drat movie even irl without someone yelling at me about SJW or whatever the gently caress that it broke my brain and I don’t have any arguments left. Hate it, fine whatever. We won’t see eye to eye. Not a huge loss. But holy moly please don’t ever support Gina or hate women for existing. (Not than anyone here is, but since I started this derail it was really about that and RJ’s trilogy making them mad over anyone else)
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Feb 19, 2021 11:36
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Goa Tse-tung posted:is that what is going on here? I mean, what else is it? The only two positions I ever see are "This thing is terrible because <star wars nerd reasons/wimmenz/ess jay dubs>" or "This thing is amazing because it pisses off those guys". It's just like everything is a big circle of validation through consumption. Or I guess validation through whatever owns the libs/sjws/nerds/whatever? idk but it's such a mess that it all ends up funneled back to the same literal monsters in the end that it's hard to take joy in it because guuuhhhhhh
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Feb 19, 2021 11:37
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I wasn’t even talking about the last Jedi. I was talking about the RJ trilogy.
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Feb 19, 2021 11:39
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I like RJ and wish him luck with having more creative control over his trilogy but I only care about his non-disney backed movies
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Feb 19, 2021 11:42
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I am way more excited about Knives Out 2 than any Star Wars. Benoit Blanc is a treasure of a character
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Feb 19, 2021 11:44
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I hope he has a completely different accent and no one notices
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Feb 19, 2021 11:46
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I can't believe this thread is so miserable it even managed to take the fun out of schadenfreude. Christ. Giant asteroid now, please.
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Feb 19, 2021 11:47
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i like star wars
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Feb 19, 2021 11:47
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Jamie Faith posted:i like star wars BEGONE, SATAN!
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Feb 19, 2021 11:49
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nine-gear crow posted:I can't believe this thread is so miserable it even managed to take the fun out of schadenfreude. Christ. Giant asteroid now, please. Nah I don’t wanna die because people are cranky on the internet.
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Feb 19, 2021 11:49
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i also like one piece 
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Feb 19, 2021 11:50
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:TLJ is the loving bastion for "The media i consume is activism" and for that alone it deserves so much worse than anything it's ever gotten. I don't think I've even seen Harry Potter brain get this bad. Nah, my point was more that for the marketing angles they want to appeal to, it was a better attempt than what got farted out in Rise of Skywalker rather than calling it earnest activism. nine-gear crow posted:Apparently there's a subset of the same lovely nerds who don't know what they want and just keep screaming that gave us Rise of Skywalker in the first place who are now convinced that there's a Snyder Cut of The Rise of Skywalker that's like three and half hours long and is the ultimate key to everything that will make the Sequel Trilogy work and sooth rugburn that is The Last Jedi inside their ragebrains if only Disney had the balls to This is the first I've heard of this  . It's not even like the movie's just poorly put together from good parts, it's clearly the movie JJ Abrahms wanted to make start-to-finish. And that's what just damns it even worse.
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Feb 19, 2021 11:53
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They think that George Lucas has recut the film on his own because the evil Kathleen Kennedy kept ruining his vision. And Disney won’t release it. Or something. Also they apparently hate Sasha Banks for owning Boba Fett that one time too. Or maybe it’s just that circle. Idk. gently caress em all tbh.
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Feb 19, 2021 11:56
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Jamie Faith posted:i also like one piece I have not seen or read one piece, dunno if i should.
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Feb 19, 2021 11:57
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StealthArcher posted:I have not seen or read one piece, dunno if i should. You should. It's the best
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Feb 19, 2021 11:59
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Also there is a Snyder Cut of The Rise of Skywalker out there in the ether, it's called Duel of the Fates and it's and equally large cartwheeling thermobaric rain of train wrecks, just in the opposite direction.
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Feb 19, 2021 12:00
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Jamie Faith posted:i also like one piece nine-gear crow posted:BEGONE, SATAN!
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Feb 19, 2021 12:00
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StealthArcher posted:I have not seen or read one piece, dunno if i should.
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Feb 19, 2021 12:01
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BFC posted:I know it's a big ask but it is very good and you should give it a punt if you're ever bored. I am terrified to imagine what level of boredom you'd have to attain to start chipping away at that behemoth. That said, I have no strong one piece opinions one way or the other, besides being extremely turned off by the art style.
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Feb 19, 2021 12:03
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nine-gear crow posted:Also there is a Snyder Cut of The Rise of Skywalker out there in the ether, it's called Duel of the Fates and it's and equally large cartwheeling thermobaric rain of train wrecks, just in the opposite direction. I don’t know about that. It seemed pretty good besides Poe and Rey. Finn’s story arc there rules. He becomes a revolutionary who leads an army of ex stormtroopers to take down other storm troopers on coruscant. There’s some dumb poo poo but it makes up for it for having really awesome poo poo like Rey having a double bladed saber, her blind battle with Kylo and rose actually does something.
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Feb 19, 2021 12:05
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:I am terrified to imagine what level of boredom you'd have to attain to start chipping away at that behemoth.
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Feb 19, 2021 12:11
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CelticPredator posted:I don’t know about that. It seemed pretty good besides Poe and Rey. Finn’s story arc there rules. He becomes a revolutionary who leads an army of ex stormtroopers to take down other storm troopers on coruscant. There’s some dumb poo poo but it makes up for it for having really awesome poo poo like Rey having a double bladed saber, her blind battle with Kylo and rose actually does something. If nothing else it sounded like it could have been an actual movie instead of a jumbled reactionary mess.
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Feb 19, 2021 12:45
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RoS is so...spiteful towards TLJ that it destroys its own pacing trying to "rewrite" part 8, the first half of that movie feels like a TV episode, and not as a homage to serials or whatever. TFA is a bit boring and a retread of Episode IV, but at least it's competent, y'know? TLJ isn't perfect, it's pretty flawed actually, but considering what came afterwards I get the feeling RJ was hamstrung by executive meddling,
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Feb 19, 2021 12:57
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RoS is half spiting Johnson and TLJ and followed by half being "Palpatine survived DS2 and rallied remaining loyalists to a distamt planet to go on a far rim conquering spree coming back decades later to shock doctrine the new Republic." rewritten to "oh god time travel is gonna kill sales and we need eugenics without palpatine directly loving."
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Feb 19, 2021 13:43
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TLJ and RoS are both terrible and I can't exactly claim TFA was great, either. I'm not going to sit and ponder the many ways these movies failed, I just can't believe they made Star Wars sequels with no plan from the beginning or any kind of overall plot outline at all. TLJ tried to do something different but I can't praise it for steering away from one cliff and off of another.
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Feb 19, 2021 13:45
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I recently saw Looper and was surprised at how good it was. I think I’ll try Knives Out soon.
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Feb 19, 2021 13:53
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knives out is fantastic and i'm kind of okay with it probably being the last movie i'll get to see in theaters in my lifetime
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Feb 19, 2021 14:02
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Yeah my last theater movie was Rise of Skywalker and that’s a regret I’ll carry for a while.
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Feb 19, 2021 14:06
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I just want Dune to come out so I can watch it and enjoy it even as it flops thanks to the pandemic and people who have no clue what kind of films Villeneuve makes.
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