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Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Grapplejack posted:

I mean they function similarly to the communist parties in the US, where they're honeypots to weaken actual movement from people who oppose the oligarchy

The KPRF and Communists of Russia came off pretty strong in the last Moscow Duma elections. They may not be actual Marxist-Leninist (the Communists of Russia is more Marxist) but they aren’t dead either. At least are a base of support to work from even if leadership of the KPRF is questionable.

Btw, I haven’t really heard or seen Navalny make any sort of attempt to really work with the left-wing in any serious sense. It anything his operation comes off as mostly stage managed.

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comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Somaen posted:

people here trying to post scary predictions about how russia will turn into a privatized oligarch-owned capitalist hellscape is hilarious, like trying to scare a hedgehog with a bare rear end.
you dont think it can get worse? i glanced at navalny's platform on his american website and it looks like insane cato institute ramblings lol

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


LittleBlackCloud posted:

Mad funny that US let Yeltsin pick him

they saw that 90s gangster video of him in his plaid suit and thought he looked badass

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
I have followed the Russia discussion in the last few pages. My 2 cents, I don't think Russia's political and economic policies will change that much post Putin, regardless how high can Navalny climb in his career.

I happen to think Navalny is a charismatic guy who looks like Jade Law if you squint your eyes hard enough. If he make out of the prison in one piece, I see bright future in front of him.

However, that doesn't mean Russia will go the way of Yeltsin 2.0 under a different Russian strongman. The Yeltsin era was a very different time, literally during the prime of US. Americans could paddle any economic ideology they wanted. Americans sold a lot of Chicago school shitsandwich in Latin America too. IMO the geographic location and size of Russia have already decided most of Russia's geopolitical direction. Plus the two main exports, oil and weapon, will make the remaining foreign policy decisions for Russia.

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


stephenthinkpad posted:

I have followed the Russia discussion in the last few pages. My 2 cents, I don't think Russia's political and economic policies will change that much post Putin, regardless how high can Navalny climb in his career.

I happen to think Navalny is a charismatic guy who looks like Jade Law if you squint your eyes hard enough. If he make out of the prison in one piece, I see bright future in front of him.

However, that doesn't mean Russia will go the way of Yeltsin 2.0 under a different Russian strongman. The Yeltsin era was a very different time, literally during the prime of US. Americans could paddle any economic ideology they wanted. Americans sold a lot of Chicago school shitsandwich in Latin America too. IMO the geographic location and size of Russia have already decided most of Russia's geopolitical direction. Plus the two main exports, oil and weapon, will make the remaining foreign policy decisions for Russia.

The fundamental problem with this is that you are assuming rational action on behalf of the actors involved.

If the russian authorities can shut navalny up over the next year the dems will forget about him while his sits in a jail cell. He's a patsy and everyone knows it. There will be a new attempted coup/military intervention by america sometime in the next 2 years at the latest and thats where the news cycle will go. Ofc this depends upon the next year with coronavirus and whether or not a truly worse again variant starts ripping through the civilian population. Navalny gets out when bidens out of office and he will be a shell of a man. I would be massively surprised if he somehow avoids coronavirus in a russian prison.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
i imagine 2024 is the window for a coup to sync up with the prezzy elections. maybe try to revive the protests in belarus and synchronize them or a twofer

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

I hope it's funnier than the attempted coups of 2020, but that might be asking too much.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Are you guys talking about coup in the US or Russia or somewhere else?

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

well one involved a bunch of paranoid idiots expressing their free speech in the dumbest possible way and the other had open international support aimed at facilitating regime change its up to you to decide which was which

Bathtub Cheese
Jun 15, 2008

I lust for Chinese world conquest. The truth does not matter before the supremacy of Dear Leader Xi.
https://twitter.com/Sabina_91521/status/1361954765849042949?s=20

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


stephenthinkpad posted:

Are you guys talking about coup in the US or Russia or somewhere else?

A coup anywhere involving US regime change ghouls - it could be anywhere.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/AskAKorean/status/1361873572025802753
https://twitter.com/AskAKorean/status/1361878387657232386
https://twitter.com/ManuelMCruz2/status/1361881008358973441
https://twitter.com/AskAKorean/status/1361886659495792642

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Starting to think that moving to Latin America is strongly correlated to being terrible

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Southpaugh posted:


If the russian authorities can shut navalny up over the next year the dems will forget about him while his sits in a jail cell.

lol if you think what USA Democrats think of navalny matters

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://www.reuters.com/article/BigStory12/idUSKBN2AH0WC

Here's some good news. India and China last week agreed to a mutual withdrawal of forces along the Ladakh frontier.

Both sides have already begun dismantling encampments.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

OhFunny posted:

https://www.reuters.com/article/BigStory12/idUSKBN2AH0WC

Here's some good news. India and China last week agreed to a mutual withdrawal of forces along the Ladakh frontier.

Both sides have already begun dismantling encampments.

Good, it's been worrying to see them get physical about it considering how awful both government's are

Time will tell if they follow through though

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

yeeeee... ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

im gonna have to pass on that bro

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


Typo posted:

lol if you think what USA Democrats think of navalny matters

Manufacturing consent (for? Who knows? Sanctions? ideally shock doctrine part 2) via the poor sweet crucified nazi is worth paying attention to.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Some Guy TT posted:

the problem with trying to apply decreased ughyur birthrates to genocidal policy is that with literally any ethnic group except the ughyurs decreased birthrates are seen as a universally good thing for exactly the reasons laid out in the article ideological consistence here would also require you to acknowledge that any attempts to decrease birthrates in africa also amount to genocide which is like a hotep level crazy position that would be laughed out of any mainstream publication

this is the same poo poo they claimed in Ukraine. Peasants get education and healthcare and their birthrate falls from 7 children (1/3rd whom will die before 7) to 2-3 children and call it genocide

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

OhFunny posted:

https://www.reuters.com/article/BigStory12/idUSKBN2AH0WC

Here's some good news. India and China last week agreed to a mutual withdrawal of forces along the Ladakh frontier.

Both sides have already begun dismantling encampments.

this Rock’s

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

OhFunny posted:

https://www.reuters.com/article/BigStory12/idUSKBN2AH0WC

Here's some good news. India and China last week agreed to a mutual withdrawal of forces along the Ladakh frontier.

Both sides have already begun dismantling encampments.
the CIA checks bounced

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1361920615423295490

https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1362249585805070338

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

The 2nd map is funnier.

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Lostconfused posted:

The 2nd map is funnier.

the 2nd map is technically correct I guess

edit: well if occupied means 'residing in' or 'militarily controlling' but not 'invaded'

Antonymous has issued a correction as of 09:44 on Feb 18, 2021

THS
Sep 15, 2017

if navalny ever wins power he should sell off russia’s power grid to private interests, there will be some texas energy professionals available to administer this

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Wow look at the cope from the failed co intel pro guy.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade
Manchukuo :chloe:

Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011


I see Posobiec considers all of Mongolia part of China

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

love too endorse a fascist puppet state

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

gradenko_2000 posted:

love too endorse a fascist puppet state

US can endorse other kinds of puppet states?

THS
Sep 15, 2017

itd be funnier if the "real map of china" also included a united joseon korea and dai viet

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
https://mobile.twitter.com/wspieler/status/1362397404134334465

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

Somaen posted:

well the difference between successful eastern european countries and horrifying shitholes is not personalities but institutions, how strong after the fall of the soviet union are free-speech, free elections, how fair are the courts and possibility of government change. Russia in particular is very, very bad with those and Navalny has a personal grudge against all of them because 1) the state channel propaganda smears him daily 2) he almost won the moscow mayor elections and the government had to step in to gently caress him over and 3) put his brother in prison as a warning not to gently caress with them. this is all fully funded by the oligarchs. they also sent death squads to kill several of his friends (Nemtsov's public shooting in front of the Kremlin being the prime example), tried to poison his wife and him and sent many into exile fearing for their lives. now these are all problems that make it harder for a broader political dialogue because people generally dont want to loving die and get the hint and emigrate, especially the nerve agent death squads part

despite weird sexpat-experts like levine claiming that the only thing he's doing is building a far-right coalition, navalny's current most powerful strategy is building a decentralized network of election committees and utilizing tactical voting to get oppositional figures into the government (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_Voting_(Russia)) and trying to dislodge the main government party. this proved to have some success and often they were encouraging people to vote for very illiberal communist candidates and those candidates won much to the chagrin of liberals, and THEN in 2019 after protests (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Moscow_protests) and a lot of protestors being jailed, the same communists came out to speak up for the opposition. this all has local nuances and importantly gives a structural alternative to everythign being ruled from the kremlin which people like.

personally i dont want him to be a perfect guy that builds the perfect russia, i just have a personal interest in things going possibly going in the right direction

his ultra-nationalism is a typical "russian dad" type of poo poo where he laments how russia lost its imperial influence and countries dont learn about Pushkin or the russian language is pushed out by english, which is pretty typical for russians that grew up feeling like a cool empire. the outright xenophobia is long gone, he hasnt brought up immigrants in years because there are barely any left. its not an Estonia-like situation where right-wing populists get into power by trying to scare people with immigrants in a country with none. the far-right is currently very much pro-Putin because he is making russia great again by bringing crimea back and owning the yanks.

A pretty good article if you're curious to know more: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/02/01/true-beliefs-and-opportunism-navalnys-tangled-political-development-a72797

hmm nope

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

THS posted:

if navalny ever wins power he should sell off russia’s power grid to private interests, there will be some texas energy professionals available to administer this
https://twitter.com/EvgeniaKovda/status/1362165057199611907

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1362012878635732995

https://twitter.com/adityakalra/status/1362047389264044034

https://twitter.com/adityakalra/status/1362047372474286085

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
https://twitter.com/John_Hudson/status/1362100130166546442?s=19

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/CyberHalfling/status/1362412314503368707

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
https://www.mmtimes.com/news/hundreds-cars-stall-traffic-yangons-roads-day-12-protest.html

quote:

Numerous vehicles malfunctioned simultaneously in Yangon on February 17, the 12th day of protests against the military in Myanmar.

Several hundreds of cars broke down on the city's roads, resulting in lengthy traffic jams. The malfunctioning vehicles were observed to be parked at road junctions with their bonnets opened.

Traffic came to a halt near the Hledan traffic light, Maha Bandoola Bridge, Thanlyin Bridge, Sule traffic intersection and on No (1) Industrial Road near the Central Bank in Yankin township.

Law enforcement authorities were on site to manage the situation. They inquired about the cause of the cars' breakdown and pushed the vehicles to alleviate traffic.

They also took photos and recorded the registration numbers of the cars involved.

U Thein Tun Aung, whose car had also suffered this issue, informed reporters that this was the 'car breakdown campaign'.

"Car owners are opening their bonnets and stopping in the middle of the road near the Central Bank during early office hours. They will keep doing so for the next few days,” he said.

Traffic at some of the roads and junctions were still gridlocked as of press time.
lmao

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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/lfx160219/status/1362748150763511810?s=19

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