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ive lived in michigan my entire life and no body here makes it a big deal to clean off their cars roof like its a public health hazard or something. we get tons of snow. seems like the highly online sort of thing to get pissed about.
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Feb 19, 2021 23:27
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Muscle Wizard posted:ive lived in michigan my entire life and no body here makes it a big deal to clean off their cars roof like its a public health hazard or something. we get tons of snow. seems like the highly online sort of thing to get pissed about. thank you brave goon for standing against the liberal cancel culture war on leaving piles of snow on your car roof
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Feb 19, 2021 23:32
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what next? will they ask us to roll our shopping carts into the return instead of leaving them sitting in the middle of a parking spot? twitter has gone too far this time
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Feb 19, 2021 23:33
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i sometimes pack extra snow on top of my car before driving out if there's no snow i stop at a gas station and dump a bag of ice cubes up there it really triggers the libs
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Feb 19, 2021 23:35
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Cup Runneth Over posted:https://twitter.com/TexasTribune/status/1362483794339635206 they're not wrong but Hairy Marionette posted:We built a system so awful that it was about to catastrophically fail. "some power but not enough power" tends to have the outcome of "things will melt and/or catch on fire" although I guess you could argue they should have left everything on in an attempt to keep any nearby pipes from freezing
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Feb 19, 2021 23:35
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:they're not wrong but they are not wrong if you believe that that is actually the reason the blackouts happened and that it's not a PR story to bury this one: https://twitter.com/lacymjohnson/status/1361709976134316039
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Feb 19, 2021 23:38
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Dustcat posted:i sometimes pack extra snow on top of my car before driving out this is how texans transport water now
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Feb 19, 2021 23:39
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Dustcat posted:i sometimes pack extra snow on top of my car before driving out rolling snow to own the libs
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Feb 19, 2021 23:44
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Cup Runneth Over posted:they are not wrong if you believe that that is actually the reason the blackouts happened and that it's not a PR story to bury this one: It never fails to amaze me how reactive government is to business losing money. 
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Feb 19, 2021 23:47
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:It never fails to amaze me how reactive government is to business losing money. https://twitter.com/Campster/status/1362755545694932993
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Feb 19, 2021 23:54
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"we turned the power off to save the grid. you'd be without power for months!" *stuffing money into a bag*
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Feb 19, 2021 23:55
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the power grid was going to collapse because power plants turned themselves off to save money when natural gas got expensive. you're lucky we stepped in to fix that problem though, by turning off all the power to everyone so they freeze to death in their frozen water damaged homes. you're welcome.
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Feb 19, 2021 23:58
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i'm sure the power companies saved millions of dollars by turning off their plants so they don't burn expensive gas and on not doing any winterization. the fact that it caused billions of dollars of damage doesn't matter because the power companies don't pay that. capitalism baby
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Feb 20, 2021 00:00
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Cup Runneth Over posted:they are not wrong if you believe that that is actually the reason the blackouts happened and that it's not a PR story to bury this one: they're both true, like the nerds in the building controlling the grid were like "gently caress we're running out of capacity better turn off poo poo" and also the nerds running the numbers at the massive energy companies were like "nope not profitable enough, turn off the plant" at the same time the lobbyists running the Texas Railroad Commission set the rules so that the massive energy companies get the excuse
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Feb 20, 2021 00:07
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Trabisnikof posted:they're both true, like the nerds in the building controlling the grid were like "gently caress we're running out of capacity better turn off poo poo" and also the nerds running the numbers at the massive energy companies were like "nope not profitable enough, turn off the plant" at the same time the lobbyists running the Texas Railroad Commission set the rules so that the massive energy companies get the excuse ah yes, many fine people on both sides
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Feb 20, 2021 00:19
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it is absolutely true that an uncontrolled blackout is capital-B Bad for the grid, and the grid operators shedding load were doing their job to prevent a potentially catastrophic failure it is also true that this situation could and should have been avoided and the companies seeing this as an excuse to skyrocket their prices and bragging about their profits are a stain on humanity’s rear end
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Feb 20, 2021 00:28
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No one in MA makes a big deal about clearing snow off the top of your car because lol how dumb do you have to be to not just know that? No one has to make a big deal or show you how because you must be a huge idiot if you don't realize things on top of your car will fly off of it when you drive. Like what the gently caress?
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Feb 20, 2021 00:28
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Muscle Wizard posted:ive lived in michigan my entire life and no body here makes it a big deal to clean off their cars roof like its a public health hazard or something. we get tons of snow. This was my experience growing up in south east MI. However, after seeing those videos I’ll be cleaning off snow in the future if I ever have the pleasure of living in a snowy place again.
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Feb 20, 2021 00:29
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Gumball Gumption posted:No one in MA makes a big deal about clearing snow off the top of your car because lol how dumb do you have to be to not just know that? No one has to make a big deal or show you how because you must be a huge idiot if you don't realize things on top of your car will fly off of it when you drive. Like what the gently caress? When 90% of the cars on the roads don’t clean off the snow off their roofs you think it’s normal to not clean the snow off your roof. Regional culture, how the gently caress does it work?
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Feb 20, 2021 00:31
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Cup Runneth Over posted:ah yes, many fine people on both sides the slight of hand will be critical since the solution will be to give massive energy companies more money from ratepayers while the Railroad Commission makes sure this exact same thing will happen again
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Feb 20, 2021 00:32
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but I mean yes but the US grid will eventually collapse in one way or another probably in the next 10 years. Maybe I can get a hidden trailer with solar panels and get a well dug somewhere.
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Feb 20, 2021 00:41
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Luneshot posted:it is absolutely true that an uncontrolled blackout is capital-B Bad for the grid, and the grid operators shedding load were doing their job to prevent a potentially catastrophic failure as usual the truth is in the middle 
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Feb 20, 2021 00:49
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they were running out of capacity because they shut plants down to avoid taking losses on their natural gas bill until the government would let them octuple the prices
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Feb 20, 2021 00:50
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Cup Runneth Over posted:they were running out of capacity because they shut plants down to avoid taking losses on their natural gas bill until the government would let them octuple the prices And then those plants froze and couldn't restart bc they didn't bother enclosing anything at all, even stuff you wouldn't normally have outdoors in any climate
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Feb 20, 2021 00:56
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Cup Runneth Over posted:they were running out of capacity because they shut plants down to avoid taking losses on their natural gas bill until the government would let them octuple the prices listen sorry it was a different corporation controlled bureaucracy who made the call, there was absolutely nothing we could do unless you let us profit more ok?
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Feb 20, 2021 01:02
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SchnorkIes posted:And then those plants froze and couldn't restart bc they didn't bother enclosing anything at all, even stuff you wouldn't normally have outdoors in any climate Enclosures cost money. But seriously, in a sane society the people in charge of these companies would be charged with at least negligent homicide.
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Feb 20, 2021 01:06
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in china they'd be shot
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Feb 20, 2021 01:07
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woah don't be so harsh, these are rich white men you're talking about. negligent homicide is for black people who happen to be in the same car as their friend who is murdered by the police.
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Feb 20, 2021 01:08
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Tezer posted:Another solution would be to install a drain/shutoff so you can drain the area of the pipe in the exterior of the wall back to a utility space before severe weather events. Of course, I don't know your home, this might be easier said than done. There’s a pretty large margin between the temperature required to prevent freezing and the autoignition temperature of building materials. Don’t do something like curling the wire up and stuffing it in your newspaper‐insulated wall cavity, but when properly installed, heat wire is less hazardous than the wires already in your walls.
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Feb 20, 2021 01:30
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yeah it will take a very specific amount of current to reach the correct temp for whatever the wire is made out of and it only has to be warm enough to prevent freezing
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Feb 20, 2021 01:40
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Homeless Friend posted:it seems like a problem that is taken care of by not driving right up on somebodies rear end, for the most part. The videos on this very page prove that isn't true. Hmm. Not giving a poo poo about other people, mocking the idea of doing the bare minimum to protect others, and then saying it's their own fault anyway. What other chud opinions you got?
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Feb 20, 2021 01:45
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Platystemon posted:There’s a pretty large margin between the temperature required to prevent freezing and the autoignition temperature of building materials.
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Feb 20, 2021 01:46
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Pryor on Fire posted:yeah, has never happened to me in decades of mountain snow driving and nobody bothers wiping snow off around here. on the list of things to worry about or rage at others over in 2021 i think snow on cars is pretty laughable Literally watched a pile up caused by someone not cleaning the top of their Navigator on the previously mentioned i-95 so gently caress you.
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Feb 20, 2021 02:09
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Platystemon posted:There’s a pretty large margin between the temperature required to prevent freezing and the autoignition temperature of building materials. Some solutions just don't seem 'right'. Like, I think about removing drywall, wrapping a copper/pex pipe in heat cable, then reinstalling the drywall but leaving a hole for the power cord, then getting an extension cord because it the power cord doesn't quite reach the closest outlet and plugging the whole mess in.... and it just doesn't seem like a good idea. Like, maybe it's not dangerous, but it's still a 'bad' idea. Just vibes wise. Anyways, check out this sweet picture I was sent today from an active job.
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Feb 20, 2021 02:10
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Hairy Marionette posted:Enclosures cost money. my spouse and i were watching a terrible dumb movie last night and the failure point in suspension of disbelief was the final "the rich and powerful antagonist got arrested for almost (but not actually, because hero saved the day) letting a bunch of people die"
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Feb 20, 2021 02:12
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Where the gently caress are you proles parking that you get snow on your loving car roof?
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Feb 20, 2021 02:39
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is that a serious question
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Feb 20, 2021 02:40
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lmao if you don't have a personal valet to fetch your maybach so you don't have to be subject to the whims of the sky
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Hairy Marionette posted:When 90% of the cars on the roads don’t clean off the snow off their roofs you think it’s normal to not clean the snow off your roof. Regional culture, how the gently caress does it work? Not grasping basic observable physics isn't regional culture. What else do you think could happen to things on your car roof?
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