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quoting the last post to replace my shitpost:Oracle posted:Oh man, this may be very interesting to those of German heritage. btw, if any yall have swedes, the ArkivDigital direcotry goes back to 1820 now Carthag Tuek fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Feb 6, 2021 |
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Oh hey, clear your calendars. newspapers.com is free all weekend (if you already have an account and signed up for their spam they send a link right to you). The one with all the actual useful stuff that's usually blocked with the poo poo-tier subscription included in 'all access' on Ancestry. Publisher Extra or whatever they call it. ALL the papers. quote:Free access to all papers until Monday Oracle fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Feb 12, 2021 |
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Feb 12, 2021 05:21
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Oracle posted:Oh hey, clear your calendars. newspapers.com is free all weekend (if you already have an account and signed up for their spam they send a link right to you). Thanks for this! I logged into my account, connected it with my Ancestry account and checked the box for "Send me Newspapers.com Special Offers and Surveys" - guessing that's the right one to get the email. I'm expecting to be snowed in and Monday is a holiday for my company, now I've got something to do.
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Feb 12, 2021 08:32
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Tomorrow I am the keynote speaker for the 75th Anniversary of a society one of my great grandfathers started. An interest in rocks skipped a few generations but he was a huge spiritual inspiration for me.
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Feb 12, 2021 18:57
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Wow thats neat! I guess you don't wanna go into details, but rock on lol  and also break a leg  I work for the same employer that my great grandfather and great-great grandfather. That wasn't planned at all. My great grandfather died less than a month before I was born, and we didn't have a great relationship with my grandfather (he was kindof a dick, tbh, but but after he died we discovered more about his personal life that possibly explained why he was difficult to get along with or form attachments to). Anyway, I felt destined for one career, and only late in life did I realize that I wanted something else & I ended up where my ancestors were. In my case I wouldn't say it's genetic or anything, just coincidence, but it amuses me. e: also thx for the headsup on newspapers, Oracle!
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Feb 12, 2021 19:10
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Carthag Tuek posted:Wow thats neat! I guess you don't wanna go into details, but rock on lol That's great serendipity! While I have some Scandi attention: below find a picture of my very distinguished looking great great grandfather, from Gamleby, Sweden (despite the bourgeoise appearance, he was a farm manager). I have had this picture for most of my life, he was a huge figure in my grandfather's life, but I know nothing about the medal and would dearly love to know more. Given the profile and crown I'm guessing it's of the then king (would have been late 19th century when awarded, he was brought to North America by his kids in 1908), which suggests there should be some sort of record somewhere. I've actually seen it in person--came in a nice crushed purple velvet case--but my mother has misplaced it, and the memory it is somewhere in her house. How might I go about learning more? 
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Feb 12, 2021 21:51
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Bilirubin posted:That's great serendipity! You can try to find a Facebook or Reddit group of Swedish military weeaboos and post as sharp and clear of a picture as you can manage. Also try and remember the color of the ribbon, that can be important, as well as the actual color or type of metal (bronze? Silver?)
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Feb 13, 2021 06:59
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could it be the Carl XV medal from the 1866 agricultural exhibition? https://www.aktiesamlaren.se/numismatik/medaljer/medaljer/kungligt.htm (about mid page, search XV and its the second) But yeah. Serendipity is a good word.
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Feb 13, 2021 10:27
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Oracle posted:Oh hey, clear your calendars. newspapers.com is free all weekend (if you already have an account and signed up for their spam they send a link right to you). I have an account there, just the free one right now, and I never got the email. I tried to search but I'm still locked out of the good stuff.
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Feb 13, 2021 18:06
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Gravitee posted:I have an account there, just the free one right now, and I never got the email. I tried to search but I'm still locked out of the good stuff. Same 
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Feb 13, 2021 22:36
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Carthag Tuek posted:could it be the Carl XV medal from the 1866 agricultural exhibition? By Jove, I think you've got it! Very much appreciated! Oracle posted:You can try to find a Facebook or Reddit group of Swedish military weeaboos and post as sharp and clear of a picture as you can manage. Also try and remember the color of the ribbon, that can be important, as well as the actual color or type of metal (bronze? Silver?) Bronze on a blue ribbon. But the reverse engravings above trigger my memories correctly.
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Feb 13, 2021 22:59
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Gravitee posted:I have an account there, just the free one right now, and I never got the email. I tried to search but I'm still locked out of the good stuff. Let me see if the link from what I got will work for you. Try this link
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Feb 14, 2021 00:06
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Try this link
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Feb 14, 2021 00:08
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Seems to be working, thanks!
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Feb 14, 2021 00:10
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works for me too
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Feb 14, 2021 11:01
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What relation is my great-grandfather's first cousin to me? I've found a lot of articles concerning my GG (who was a lieutenant-governor), and quite a few about his cousin, who was an Arctic Explorer (and his cousin's uncle, who was part of the Canadian Arctic Expedition). Thanks again for the heads-up about newspapers.com, I've spent a lot of hours finding great stuff including this from 12/23/1920: 
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Feb 14, 2021 18:51
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TITTIEKISSER69 posted:What relation is my great-grandfather's first cousin to me? first cousin 3x removed 
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Feb 14, 2021 19:36
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Thanks! I had looked at a couple other charts but that one made it click for me. Next question: what relation is that cousin's uncle to me? I'm thinking first cousin 4x removed if I'm reading that chart correctly.
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Feb 14, 2021 21:01
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I just found out that a distant cousin* applied for social security in 1969. However, everything I can find has him living in Denmark until he died 1975. He was a doctor and did participate in some research groups and conferences in America, but I find it hard to fit in any longer stays. Could you even get social security without being a citizen at that time? e: according to the chart, he was my 1st cousin thrice removed
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Feb 17, 2021 16:14
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Carthag Tuek posted:I just found out that a distant cousin* applied for social security in 1969. Was he married to an American or anything like that? Huh. Apparently you didn't have to be a citizen or present legal alien prior to Dec. 1996.
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Feb 17, 2021 17:46
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No, his wife was Danish as well. The closest you can get to that is him being a cousin of the two brothers I've mentioned that went to Canada in 1929. I don't know if he even knew them. He must have been abroad for a while if he found it necessary. We've had universal healthcare since 1971, with a more limited system of public health care prior to that, that he might have been too well-off to qualify for. Anyway, I assume it didn't cover you in America then either (you take out travel insurance instead), so I guess he was just being careful (he was 73 in '69). Thanks!
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Feb 17, 2021 18:43
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Oh! Perhaps some of his professional accolades would qualify him? Honorary Member of the American Association for the Study of Headache 1964 Member of the Research Group on Migraine and Headache of the World Federation of Neurology 1968 Stuff like that.
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Feb 17, 2021 19:22
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Carthag Tuek posted:Oh! Perhaps some of his professional accolades would qualify him? Nah. You have to have to worked (legally, and thus paid in via taxes) for a certain amount of time in the U.S., maybe 10 years? Its probably changed since the 60s as well. Is it possible he had a paid position on a board in the U.S. somewhere? Otherwise they do mention edge cases of further distant relatives being eligible for survivor's benefits (e.g. grandchildren).
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Feb 17, 2021 19:45
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Ah ok. yeah, it being board memberships or some other paid position makes sense.
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Feb 17, 2021 20:41
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Carthag Tuek posted:Oh! Perhaps some of his professional accolades would qualify him? If he received any sort of financial reward for these awards or grants or the like the Soc would have been necessary to file taxes on it. Carthag Tuek posted:Ah ok. yeah, it being board memberships or some other paid position makes sense. Yeah that. e;fb 
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Feb 18, 2021 05:15
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Thanks for confirming tho! 
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Feb 18, 2021 06:25
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I love the cousin chart. I get to break it out every time I try to explain any relation on my mom's side to my husband. "So, I was talking to my cousin Jane on Facebook..." "I don't know her. Which of your mother's sisters does she go with?" "Well, technically, she's not my cousin. She's my half-first cousin once removed." "What?!!" "Let me get the chart again."
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Feb 19, 2021 06:55
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Brennanite posted:I love the cousin chart. I get to break it out every time I try to explain any relation on my mom's side to my husband. I have to break it out every time because I can't keep it all straight either haha.
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Since part of my family is Faroese, we use some extra fancy words for our relations (I think they're also still used in Norwegian, but they went out of use in Denmark centuries ago): - Fætter/kusine = first cousin (male/female), same as in Danish*, but: - Tremænding = second cousin (neutral gender), older spelling (which I prefer) is tremenning - Firmænding = third cousin, etc A translation for tremenning would be something like "third-relation". I think the reason they're offset from English is because we go "vertically" instead of "laterally" — ie. counting up to the common ancestor (great grandparent) is 3 steps, instead of going one step out from 1st cousin to 2nd. On the whole, Scandinavian relationship terms are much more specific than in English or French. See also mormor = maternal grandma (literally mom-mom), farbror** = paternal uncle, søsterdatter = sister's daughter = niece***, etc. There are also Danish halv- and grandfætter/-kusine which are kind of a mess and can mean second cousin and first cousin once removed, kinda like great cousin/uncle are misused a lot. I suppose they also have similarly specific words in Iceland. It can be pretty important in small isolated communities! * cousins could also in older Danish be called næstsøskende = next-siblings, and second cousins næstsøskendebarn = next-sibling-child, but my impression is that these were legal terms. ** weirdly, farbror, while literally meaning "father's brother", can be used in Sweden as "adult male friend of the family" so a single mother might introduce her boyfriend to her kids as "farbror ___" (or at least thats the impression i got from watching swedish children's tv as a kid)  *** the ones that go "up" (parents, uncles) are more commonly used than the ones that go "down" (nieces, nephews), but all are easily understood. As a genealogist, I will readily use like mormorfarbror for mom's mom's dad's brother, idgaf e: it would be fun to read a proper linguist paper on scandinavian relationship terms, wonder if google scholar has any Carthag Tuek fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Feb 19, 2021 |
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It’s complicated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOi2c2d3_Lk
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Feb 19, 2021 21:35
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Interesting that the systems are all named after indiginous peoples/languages. I suppose the anthropologists or linguists who categorized them considered them more "pure" as opposed to the indo-european languages. I mean, I generally expect old linguistic stuff to be like Germanic, Latin, Slavic, etc I would have liked more examples of languages for each system. I just go "oh that makes sense" for all of them but I don't have anything to connect it to. I guess Scandinavian is a Sudanese system? But thanks for the clip, there's a lot to google here 
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Feb 19, 2021 23:18
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Carthag Tuek posted:Interesting that the systems are all named after indiginous peoples/languages. I suppose the anthropologists or linguists who categorized them considered them more "pure" as opposed to the indo-european languages. I mean, I generally expect old linguistic stuff to be like Germanic, Latin, Slavic, etc Seems like Scandinavian is a Sudanese system. I *think* that the Sudanese system is the most common, but it's hard to tell because every article seems to use a different measure (population, societies, geographic distribution, etc.). Even though I actually think it makes a ton of sense to distinguish maternal from paternal relatives, in practice I collapse generational distinctions. Everyone's either an aunt, uncle, cousin, or grandparent in conversation. Besides, we can always break out the chart if we need to be specific.
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Feb 20, 2021 06:49
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Anyone going to Rootstech Connect? Its free and online this year and I've been going through the catalog and already have over a dozen talks picked out. There's a bunch of stuff people here might find interesting including talks on researching in the Phillipines and the Caribbean and DNA everything and reading script of various languages and man, just you name it, they have something on it. Its nuts how big this catalog is. You can find it here and browse and see if anything catches your fancy. Sign up link is here.
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Feb 23, 2021 00:58
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Oh also: MyHeritage is offering free uploads and access to their DNA tools: For a limited time only, between February 21–28, 2021, we are waiving the unlock fee! You can now upload your DNA data and get access to all advanced DNA tools for these files - forever! https://www.myheritage.com/dna/upload Instructions: https://faq.myheritage.com/en/article/how-can-i-upload-a-dna-file-to-myheritage
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Feb 23, 2021 01:26
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Oracle posted:Anyone going to Rootstech Connect? Its free and online this year and I've been going through the catalog and already have over a dozen talks picked out. There's a bunch of stuff people here might find interesting including talks on researching in the Phillipines and the Caribbean and DNA everything and reading script of various languages and man, just you name it, they have something on it. Its nuts how big this catalog is. You can find it here and browse and see if anything catches your fancy. I know one of the presenters this year and if everyone is as good as she is, those talks should be terrific.
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Feb 23, 2021 02:06
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For us mutt Americans, https://www.americanancestors.org puts on online classes too. I took one recently on writing your family history. It was $125ish. Over five weeks they went through organizing data, writing, adding images, and then publishing. I think that's the next step for me. I'm thinking more specifically about adding to my family's story by getting context about social and political reasons things may have happened, rather than just collecting names and dates.
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Feb 23, 2021 02:20
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Oracle posted:Oh also: Oh man, if I could get my Ancestry results in time for this I'd be all over it.
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Feb 23, 2021 02:54
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TITTIEKISSER69 posted:Oh man, if I could get my Ancestry results in time for this I'd be all over it. I just got my results last week. They received it Jan. 13th. I sent it in end of December. Course that was after the Christmas rush so maybe they’re back to normal.
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Feb 23, 2021 04:06
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Ooh the RootsTech deals are starting to roll out. If you've been interested in trying RootsMagic (software program that you can access ancestry/familysearch/myheritage/I forget what others with, download the actual media files from those sites and keep your backup local, updating those sites as you go) they have a great deal related to the conferences. For 20 bucks you get the software, a copy of the book on how to use it and you'll get RootsMagic 8 when it comes out (hopefully later this year).quote:While RootsTech Connect does have a virtual expo hall, we've been putting all of our time and efforts towards getting RootsMagic 8 ready and, unfortunately, don't have a virtual booth this year.
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Ok so! RootsTech was pretty standard online stuff, but you can STILL VIEW THE VIDEOS ONLINE. You can find them here: https://www.familysearch.org/rootstech/rtc2021/search Some of them are thinly-disguised product ads (as one might expect from a conference) and a lot are very basic level stuff, but they do have good deep dives and if you've ever been confused by genetic genealogy there are a LOT of good videos for beginners. They also have multiple languages so if English isn't your first know that there are others available (lots of Dutch/German/other European languages, a few African languages, Asian, lots of Spanish etc).
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