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Calumanjaro
Nov 11, 2011

Zarin posted:

bUt ThEn HoW wIlL tHeY kNoW hOw MuCh To BiLl TeH cLiEnT

My friend works at one of the big audit firms. They bill a flat rate for service, but still have their employees track their time. I don't understand why people work those jobs.

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old bean factory
Nov 18, 2006

Will ya close the fucking doors?!
I just started working at this place in town, they seem nice. Got my own chair and everything.

Sebben and Sebben Mission Statement: posted:


Putting clients first by putting employees first, immediately after prioritizing fiscal responsibilities and leveraging profitability towards exceeding by empowering our employees to put clients (and themselves) first, in a diverse and respectful environment of only those that come first, first.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

CarForumPoster posted:

Where it all goes wrong is where management steps in.

:emptyquote:

Charles Bukowski posted:

Come join me in my wood chopping venture. No time sheets, no jargon. Hell we ain't even gonna pay taxes.

I have to buy firewood from wood cutters every year so I don't freeze to death, pay a ridiculous hearing bill and/or listen to my housemates whine about how cold it is. Every year I have to sift though a sea of shitheads on Facebook. Almost every single wood seller will over price and lie about the quality of their wood and will rip you off without a moments hesitation. The problem is the barrier to entry is 'have a truck, have a chainsaw, have lots of free time' so it's very appealing to unemployable rednecks. And the sort of dumb rear end in a top hat who can't hold down a job is also the sort of dumb rear end in a top hat who thinks 'yeah, cut wood sell wood not a problem' and doesn't think about fuel costs or time management or anything really. So because they don't understand economy of scale and refuse to think about overhead they can't make any money because they need to rent trailers or drive multiple loads for each delivery. There are good operators who can deliver reasonably priced wood but they're in demand and don't advertise and it's basically like trying to get a table at a fancy popular restaurant.

So because of a that bullshit I'm buying a chainsaw this year and blowing a few weekends getting my own wood simply because of how dishonest lovely 95% of truck and chainsaw owners are. Then again, maybe I can get some extra and sell it. Yeah, can't be that hard amiright?

What I'm saying is please use your computer touching brain and crunch some numbers and maybe buy a big rear end trailer and a big rear end truck before you go dick deep into that splintery bullshit.

Outrail fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Feb 20, 2021

Tartan Target
Jun 1, 2001

For the most part I think I'm spared a lot of the usual bullshit. I'm a lone creative in a largely business/tech crowd, nobody really knows how to manage me so I'm pretty much left my own devices. Been there about a year, nobody ever checks up on what I'm doing and largely everyone assumes that everyone else is doing their job.

Obviously there's little bullshit things here and there - lately we were "paired up" with people outside of our immediate teams to "collaborate" on some "out of the box ideas". Luckily the girl I was paired up with was cool as hell, didn't see the point in this, and the idea we presented back to the managers essentially amounted to "less of this kind of poo poo". There's another guy who winds me up slightly, but only because he talks at length without ever actually saying anything.

What is DevOps? Making poo poo and doing poo poo at the same time? People keep talking about it.

cynic
Jan 19, 2004



NapalmWeasel posted:

That reminds me of this guy who worked in the same office as me, not sure what team he was on. He was looking at scantily-clad ladies on the work computer, in the office, in full view of *everyone*. He was not seen back in the office shortly after that.

We had two people this year conduct a 'remote sexual liaison' online using the company laptops without realising that sharing docs in chat or saving them to your documents folder actually dumps them on a shared drive that everyone has access to. They both got sacked for gross misconduct apparently 'gross' was definitely the correct term; the head of IT told me he briefly considered demagnetising, bleaching and burning the two laptops when they were returned.

cynic
Jan 19, 2004



Tartan Target posted:

What is DevOps? Making poo poo and doing poo poo at the same time? People keep talking about it.

Automate all the things related to software development as much as possible so people spend more time developing and less time with bullshit. Done right it'll save thousands of hours, done wrong it will overcomplicate everything and make everyone miserable.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

cynic posted:

We had two people this year conduct a 'remote sexual liaison' online using the company laptops without realising that sharing docs in chat or saving them to your documents folder actually dumps them on a shared drive that everyone has access to. They both got sacked for gross misconduct apparently 'gross' was definitely the correct term; the head of IT told me he briefly considered demagnetising, bleaching and burning the two laptops when they were returned.

Which square narced on them instead of being cool and giving them a heads up?

Tartan Target
Jun 1, 2001

Oh - back in the before times, in the long long ago, I worked at a film company in London.

Worked there for around 5 years, during which the company hired a grand total of three exorcists.

Didn't matter that I was working night-shifts and kept telling everyone there wasn't poo poo going in the place. The PA was an ex-glamour model who believed in ghosts and the MD was kinda pathetic and visibly starved for attention, so he just went ahead and paid large-ish amounts of money for people to come in and wave incense around the place.

cynic
Jan 19, 2004



Outrail posted:

Which square narced on them instead of being cool and giving them a heads up?

In one of my earlier posts I called this company out for making us wear suits on video calls with each other. It's narc central round here.

I handed my notice in last week lol.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

cynic posted:

In one of my earlier posts I called this company out for making us wear suits on video calls with each other. It's narc central round here.

I handed my notice in last week lol.

Congrats!

May I suggest you crack open a can of sardines and hide it in the highest ranked manager's office you can access?

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Calumanjaro posted:

My friend works at one of the big audit firms. They bill a flat rate for service, but still have their employees track their time. I don't understand why people work those jobs.

My job has a mix, but the thing is the people doing the flat rate stuff and know how many hours is considered reasonable for the task, and as you get better at doing the thing you just charge the hours regardless cause no one is verifying it took you that long.

There’s a thing I regularly do that 3-4 hours is considered a reasonable/good time but I can easily get 3 done in an 8 hour day and charge 10 hours for them, everyone wins it’s basically the perfect system.

Elder Postsman
Aug 30, 2000


i used hot bot to search for "teens"

Zarin posted:

bUt ThEn HoW wIlL tHeY kNoW hOw MuCh To BiLl TeH cLiEnT

Our time entries were literally the line items on invoices. There were rules around how to phrase things (couldn't say "bug fix", for example) because of that.

Clearly the best and most open and most transparent way of doing it, clients love this one weird trick.

Charles Bukowski
Aug 26, 2003

Taskmaster 2023 Second Place Winner

Grimey Drawer

Outrail posted:

Depressing story about woodcutting

I'm not a computer toucher, I'm an unemployed labourer and jack of all trades. I think the key to this project is to just get a really nice axe that makes a statement. Something big and bold. I already have some flannel, suspenders and some steel toes so I'm like halfway there already.

If I wanted to make money I would have gone to law school. Maybe when I move to my new village I'll work in the Mexican restaurant and cut wood on the side for fun, to start. I will insist on dressing like the lumberjack though at the restaurant, that's just free advertising.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
Sounds like you've thought this through better than most of the mooks I have to deal with.

BitBasher
Jun 6, 2004

You've got to know the rules before you can break 'em. Otherwise, it's no fun.


AHH F/UGH posted:

Was Frank like, so efficient in his hog jerking that he didn't have time to go into the sites themselves and only just beat off to 1997 porn banner ads?

Or was he like, making a compilation of which ones he wanted to go to later at home?

I must know what the motivation here was

I honestly don't have any idea, that was what confused me too. Real porn wasn't was prevalent as it is now, there was no Pornhub and similar. Hell, actual BBS's still were in operation you could download nudes from over a dial up if you had one. That said it could definitely be found. Back then if you were on a skeevy site looking for smut sometimes links would send you to just a nigh infinitely scrolling page of those banner ads that existed just to generate hits for the images I assume. Just pure ad spam scrolling and scrolling hundreds of banner ads for dozens and dozens of pages in a browser. When that happened you sighed and got annoyed, hit the back button on your browser and tried again looking for the real images.

Frank wasn't curating a collection from what I saw at all. He would land on a page of these banner ads and just mash the Print button. He was literally printing out the poo poo that people would try to avoid when landing on that page. I have no idea either. The actual nakedness was often postage stamp sized.

It couldn't have been a specific selection. I'm not exaggerating volume. It was so much it was a cast of probably having to get up and add more paper for the jobs to finish printing. The two stacks he left in the printer were north of an inch or inch and a half thick each. He brought a backpack to work, so I have no idea how many pages he actually left with. In my head he was leaving work with a phone book thick collection of tiny banner ads.

It should be noted that Frank looked exactly as I would have expected him to. He was basically Jason Alexander with a beard, even with a balding pattern and about 5 foot 7. He was friendly enough and would go off on topis if you started a conversation but he mainly kept to himself. While me and Jason sat together on the north end of the call center he used a corner alone about 40 yards away to work from each night. For all I know he could have been punching his hog on the clock, I never once had a reason to walk over there for 6 hours of my shift, and I would just stand up and yell if he needed to be a supervisor.

BitBasher fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Feb 20, 2021

AHH F/UGH
May 25, 2002

How could he leave all the pages in the printer though? You figure he would wait until they were all done and then take them, right? Was he really so sloppy and lazy that he would just print poo poo and forget about it and go home? Hell if I was running that kind of game, I would at least double check the printer one more time as I was leaving the building, god drat lol

BitBasher
Jun 6, 2004

You've got to know the rules before you can break 'em. Otherwise, it's no fun.


AHH F/UGH posted:

How could he leave all the pages in the printer though? You figure he would wait until they were all done and then take them, right? Was he really so sloppy and lazy that he would just print poo poo and forget about it and go home? Hell if I was running that kind of game, I would at least double check the printer one more time as I was leaving the building, god drat lol

I can't answer that, but the bulk printer was not visible between his desk and the exit so it's entirely possible for him to space it and not see his printouts on the way to thew door. I mean obviously it was possible because he did it twice in a row.

EDIT: to be fair I left out legitimate horrible stories from this place related to that business. I was demoted from supervisor because I refused to engage in discrimination. I was given poo poo by management for asking for temporary trainer pay when they asked me (again, I had done it once) to train a 30 man class by myself while we had an actual training department that was paid half again more than I was. I was told that was bullshit and I was just trying to take advantage of them.

BitBasher fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Feb 20, 2021

tyraphoon
Apr 23, 2008
In terms of dumb poo poo my work tried to do, I currently work in HR at an extremely large global company. We make our pay ranges for all non-executive jobs available to anyone within the company. If you're a freshly minted accountant you can go look at the pay range for a senior systems engineer (vs a senior accountant) and wonder why you bothered with accounting. All told, it's actually pretty transparent and awesome, especially from the perspective of being an internal candidate for jobs (or helping friends out when they are coming into the company). Things have been this way for years/decades. Enter a dumbass HR VP who came up with the brilliant idea of hiding the pay ranges because the business they support likes to be cheapasses on pay and they don't want to have hard conversations with employees on why they pay them low in the pay range compared to other lines of business. This is a stupid idea both superficially and when you dig deeper: it would take a bunch of work to implement (IT and HR), it would impact everyone and not just this specific business, it would piss everyone off, we legally need to make some elements of pay visible to folks in certain states, and it would give the union a ton of ammo to use against management. This dragged on forever because for a while no on would tell this HR VP no, this is dumb, until finally right before implementation the topic came up again (in a speak now or forever hold your peace manner) and all of a sudden all the other businesses HR VPs woke up and said gently caress no (for all the reasons I mention above) and it dies. AFTER we waste a bunch of grunt labor time (IT and HR) because the head of Comp couldn't bring themselves to tell the original HR VP we weren't going to do this months ago.

As for my own stupidity, best thing I ever did was a printing snafu. 10+ years ago I was just beginning in HR and helping with documenting a corrective action involving an employee looking up porn on work computers in the office. I was asked to print proof of his actions to go along with his write-up to go in his permanent record. My boss thought it best to print off not just the log IT provided of the sites the guy went, but also what was at the URL itself so there was no question of what was being viewed (he had tried to claim it there wasn't actual porn being viewed). I dutifully followed instructions, printing a few pages of hardcore porn. Except they didn't go to the HR printer. I had no idea where they went at the time, so I re-printed and everything was fine. Until the head of HR lets me know that I printed them off to the C-suite floor where they were found by one of the (very nice) ancient ladies working as an exec assistant up there who apparently "had a shock" upon finding them. I was sent up to collect things and a laugh was had by all (except the exec assistant). I learned to double-check where I'm printing after that one. Thinking back it kind of feels like lighthearted hazing.

Tetramin
Apr 1, 2006

I'ma buck you up.

BitBasher posted:

I honestly don't have any idea, that was what confused me too. Real porn wasn't was prevalent as it is now, there was no Pornhub and similar. Hell, actual BBS's still were in operation you could download nudes from over a dial up if you had one. That said it could definitely be found. Back then if you were on a skeevy site looking for smut sometimes links would send you to just a nigh infinitely scrolling page of those banner ads that existed just to generate hits for the images I assume. Just pure ad spam scrolling and scrolling hundreds of banner ads for dozens and dozens of pages in a browser. When that happened you sighed and got annoyed, hit the back button on your browser and tried again looking for the real images.

Frank wasn't curating a collection from what I saw at all. He would land on a page of these banner ads and just mash the Print button. He was literally printing out the poo poo that people would try to avoid when landing on that page. I have no idea either. The actual nakedness was often postage stamp sized.

It couldn't have been a specific selection. I'm not exaggerating volume. It was so much it was a cast of probably having to get up and add more paper for the jobs to finish printing. The two stacks he left in the printer were north of an inch or inch and a half thick each. He brought a backpack to work, so I have no idea how many pages he actually left with. In my head he was leaving work with a phone book thick collection of tiny banner ads.

It should be noted that Frank looked exactly as I would have expected him to. He was basically Jason Alexander with a beard, even with a balding pattern and about 5 foot 7. He was friendly enough and would go off on topis if you started a conversation but he mainly kept to himself. While me and Jason sat together on the north end of the call center he used a corner alone about 40 yards away to work from each night. For all I know he could have been punching his hog on the clock, I never once had a reason to walk over there for 6 hours of my shift, and I would just stand up and yell if he needed to be a supervisor.

One time when we were like 14 my buddy showed me the printed piece of paper he’d bring into the bathroom to Jack off to since he only had a family computer, and it was a bunch of like SA avatar sized titties lmao

Charles Bukowski
Aug 26, 2003

Taskmaster 2023 Second Place Winner

Grimey Drawer
I remember printing porn off the family computer and something weird happened and the printer kept printing a faint afterimage of the porn onto other non porn things my family would print. As I assume all 3 of the men in the house were jerking off at this pc, we all just told my Mum it was a virus and we threw away the evil haunted printer.

e: My little brother found the print copy and told my Mom I had it. I tearfully explained it as a prank and threw it in the trash. We never spoke of it again.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Tetramin posted:

One time when we were like 14 my buddy showed me the printed piece of paper he’d bring into the bathroom to Jack off to since he only had a family computer, and it was a bunch of like SA avatar sized titties lmao

Trying to find stuff for free in the late 90s usually meant TGP; Thumbnail Gallery Posts. There were maybe 20-30 thumbnails on the page of a photo session, in increasing states of nakedness. Only the first couple of thumbnails would link to the full-size photo, and the rest would link to the paywall.
So I can 100% believe enterprising teenagers ripping all the thumbnails and printing them out and poring over them with a magnifying glass.

Pinus Porcus
May 14, 2019

Ranger McFriendly
Several years ago I worked for a different government agency. Our district ended up getting merged into another district to save money (less management, etc). Well needless to say, this failed epically, but I think the final straw for most everyone were the status emails.

Now, I work outdoors in remote places, and that year I was the only person to cover a ridiculously large area. I worked 4 10s drove 200 plus miles a day, and barely managed the bare minimum to keep facilities open. No maintenance unless poo poo was a hazard. My days for 6 mos were:bust rear end, fight with poo poo above my pay grade just to make it work and skid into the yard at 1727 to leave by 1730. I checked emails at lunch, assuming I stopped somewhere with service.

So they ask for DAILY and weekly emails. Weekly: what do you want to accomplish this week, what do you need, what didn't you get done last week and why. The daily was a mini version (oh, I already had to send a weekly status email to the dude who sometimes covered the other half of the week, so he'd know wtf was going on).

I got in trouble for no doing the daily emails and just saying I wanted staff and to get through ops. I got in BIG trouble when I got pissed and wrote that the reason I didn't accomplish what I wanted to accomplish was because I had to leave a job site 30 minutes early to write this stupid loving email.

Thank God for union jobs and it being hard to fire someone for telling the truth :dance:

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
the owner of the laboratory i worked at was the founder's son, who took over when the founder died several years ago. one of his first big initiatives was throwing out all the office furniture and replacing it with IKEA because his ex-wife "wanted to go shopping." he had all the walls painted with primer and never followed up on the next coat, so the place became hospital-blinding. his daughter bought a guinea pig and decided she didn't want to look after it so he kept it in the office instead, under the conference room table, in the dark, for years, never feeding or cleaning it (me and the company's HR rep did what we could to keep it alive), until several months ago when it developed a blowfly infestation that spread throughout the whole company - fat, buzzing flies everywhere, bloated with blood from eating this animal alive - and then it was finally carried out and never seen again. he would launch into random bouts of unprovoked, hysterical laughter, and since main office was right next to his own that meant hearing his joker-cackle several times a day. any attempt to confront him or address concerns was usually met with him doing that same laugh in the employee's face and walking back to his office

the rest of the company worked around him for the most part but i guess he saw the plague times as an opportunity to consolidate his power, though that didn't stop him from openly denying COVID was real until well into the summer. he started off the lockdown by firing two of my best coworkers, one of whom was on maternity leave and had a four-hour commute, and joking about it. he eliminated WFH. he cut vacation. he tried to cut sick time until he found out it was illegal. he ripped down our sample storage and threw all the storage boxes into the conference room, which he routinely locked so we couldn't access the samples. he promised impossible lead times on testing and turned what was once a fairly standard 12-hour opening day into a 24-hour testing sweatshop. he rearranged the technicians' lab spaces without their knowledge or permission. he tore out a bathroom sink and replaced it with a new, non-functional one that was so large it made the toilet inaccessible, and then moved the toilet paper roll to the opposite wall, beneath the massive sink. every week there was a new absurdist nightmare coming down the pipeline

last month he told me to make an edit to one of my lab reports that would have potentially allowed the client to use the data on samples other than the ones we'd tested - we had documented precedent against doing this, and it was a risky market for the end user, but his response was "i'm the boss, do it or get out and find a new job." at this time he hadn't shaved or changed his clothes in three weeks

and that is why i'm job-hunting in COVID times

Oxxidation fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Feb 22, 2021

Tetramin
Apr 1, 2006

I'ma buck you up.

Oxxidation posted:

the owner of the laboratory i worked at was the founder's son, who took over when the founder died several years ago. one of his first big initiatives was throwing out all the office furniture and replacing it with IKEA because his ex-wife "wanted to go shopping." he had all the walls painted with primer and never followed up on the next coat, so the place became hospital-blinding. his daughter bought a guinea pig and decided she didn't want to look after it so he kept it in the office instead, under the conference room table, in the dark, for years, never feeding or cleaning it (me and the company's HR rep did what we could to keep it alive), until several months ago when it developed a blowfly infestation that spread throughout the whole company - fat, buzzing flies everywhere, bloated with blood from eating this animal alive - and then it was finally carried out and never seen again. he would launch into random bouts of unprovoked, hysterical laughter, and since main office was right next to his own that meant hearing his joker-cackle several times a day. any attempt to confront him or address concerns was usually met with him doing that same laugh in the employee's face and walking back to his office

the rest of the company worked around him for the most part but i guess he saw the plague times as an opportunity to consolidate his power, though that didn't stop him from openly denying COVID was real until well into the summer. he started off the lockdown by firing two of my best coworkers, one of whom was on maternity leave and had a four-hour commute, and joking about it. he eliminated WFH. he cut vacation. he tried to cut sick time until he found out it was illegal. he ripped down our sample storage and threw all the storage boxes into the conference room, which he routinely locked so we couldn't access the samples. he promised impossible lead times on testing and turned what was once a fairly standard 12-hour opening day into a 24-hour testing sweatshop. he rearranged the technicians' lab spaces without their knowledge or permission. he tore out a bathroom sink and replaced it with a new, non-functional one that was so large it made the toilet inaccessible, and then moved the paper tower roll to the opposite wall, beneath the massive sink. every week there was a new absurdist nightmare coming down the pipeline

last month he told me to make an edit to one of my lab reports that would have potentially allowed the client to use the data on samples other than the ones we'd tested - we had documented precedent against doing this, and it was a risky market for the end user, but his response was "i'm the boss, do it or get out and find a new job." at this time he hadn't shaved or changed his clothes in three weeks

and that is why i'm job-hunting in COVID times

Lmao good lord that guy needs to learn what it’s like to get punched in the face. But I’m trying to imagine a bathroom with a sink so big you can’t get to the toilet and I’m coming up empty. How big was this fuckin sink??

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Tetramin posted:

Lmao good lord that guy needs to learn what it’s like to get punched in the face. But I’m trying to imagine a bathroom with a sink so big you can’t get to the toilet and I’m coming up empty. How big was this fuckin sink??

it was a small bathroom (think outhouse-sized) and the sink was maybe two feet from faucet base to basin edge?

i'm a skinny guy and i basically had to piss diagonally with this thing in there

to clarify, by "non-functional" i mean the sink was installed so badly that the pipe leaked/burst whenever you turned it on, to the point where the water to that particular bathroom had to be shut off completely. this also ruined the toilet paper, because, again, it had been relocated to the underside of the sink

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.
Serious question why the gently caress did anyone still work there

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

webmeister posted:

Serious question why the gently caress did anyone still work there

it was a good place to work when the founder was still alive and it's in a unique position market-wise that makes it really resilient to financial problems. even after the founder passed we still had a great VP who was doing his best to modernize the place and was a decent guy for the rest of us to interact with. he was the second person the owner fired when lockdowns started

most of the staff had been there for decades and i think most of them were too used to the environment or still hanging onto glory times, and then COVID came and everyone was too scared to leave anyway (though being forced into increasingly close quarters because of all the owner's endless construction didn't help with stress)

i liked all of my coworkers a lot, pretty much all the toxicity in this place came from this one guy

e: it bears mentioning that this man is in his sixties. he'd been in a high-ranking position in the company for years before his father kicked it. i can only guess that some of the poo poo he pulled was because he was trying to "leave his mark" on the place or something

Oxxidation fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Feb 22, 2021

poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.


I worked for a medium sized company where the founder’s son got a job, was quickly promoted to VP, and then almost immediately started using that position to change/manage/complain about a bunch of other teams. Got a VP like forty years his senior fired for not prioritizing a non-essential project that he wanted, stuff like that. That’s when I switched jobs. Looks to be doing okay but everyone is twice as stressed as they already were (which was already a lot).

Tetramin
Apr 1, 2006

I'ma buck you up.
I just got an email a few minutes ago from a store manager over in loving South Dakota demanding I come on site to plug in an Ethernet cable because he’s worried if I walk him through it on the phone he will “take down the system”. I’ve been telling him hell no I’m not coming out there(I’m in minneapolis) but that I’m happy to tell somebody what to do. And yes of course he cc’d my boss and VP on an email that has no content in the body, the subject line: “when can you come in”

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Oxxidation posted:

the owner of the laboratory i worked at was the founder's son, who took over when the founder died several years ago. one of his first big initiatives was throwing out all the office furniture and replacing it with IKEA because his ex-wife "wanted to go shopping." he had all the walls painted with primer and never followed up on the next coat, so the place became hospital-blinding. his daughter bought a guinea pig and decided she didn't want to look after it so he kept it in the office instead, under the conference room table, in the dark, for years, never feeding or cleaning it (me and the company's HR rep did what we could to keep it alive), until several months ago when it developed a blowfly infestation that spread throughout the whole company - fat, buzzing flies everywhere, bloated with blood from eating this animal alive - and then it was finally carried out and never seen again. he would launch into random bouts of unprovoked, hysterical laughter, and since main office was right next to his own that meant hearing his joker-cackle several times a day. any attempt to confront him or address concerns was usually met with him doing that same laugh in the employee's face and walking back to his office

the rest of the company worked around him for the most part but i guess he saw the plague times as an opportunity to consolidate his power, though that didn't stop him from openly denying COVID was real until well into the summer. he started off the lockdown by firing two of my best coworkers, one of whom was on maternity leave and had a four-hour commute, and joking about it. he eliminated WFH. he cut vacation. he tried to cut sick time until he found out it was illegal. he ripped down our sample storage and threw all the storage boxes into the conference room, which he routinely locked so we couldn't access the samples. he promised impossible lead times on testing and turned what was once a fairly standard 12-hour opening day into a 24-hour testing sweatshop. he rearranged the technicians' lab spaces without their knowledge or permission. he tore out a bathroom sink and replaced it with a new, non-functional one that was so large it made the toilet inaccessible, and then moved the toilet paper roll to the opposite wall, beneath the massive sink. every week there was a new absurdist nightmare coming down the pipeline

last month he told me to make an edit to one of my lab reports that would have potentially allowed the client to use the data on samples other than the ones we'd tested - we had documented precedent against doing this, and it was a risky market for the end user, but his response was "i'm the boss, do it or get out and find a new job." at this time he hadn't shaved or changed his clothes in three weeks

and that is why i'm job-hunting in COVID times

Oxxidation posted:

it was a good place to work when the founder was still alive and it's in a unique position market-wise that makes it really resilient to financial problems. even after the founder passed we still had a great VP who was doing his best to modernize the place and was a decent guy for the rest of us to interact with. he was the second person the owner fired when lockdowns started

most of the staff had been there for decades and i think most of them were too used to the environment or still hanging onto glory times, and then COVID came and everyone was too scared to leave anyway (though being forced into increasingly close quarters because of all the owner's endless construction didn't help with stress)

i liked all of my coworkers a lot, pretty much all the toxicity in this place came from this one guy

e: it bears mentioning that this man is in his sixties. he'd been in a high-ranking position in the company for years before his father kicked it. i can only guess that some of the poo poo he pulled was because he was trying to "leave his mark" on the place or something

This guy sounds like he's straight up mentally ill, jfc. Good luck finding a new job!

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Sounds like some serious mental decline to me. Properly unhinged thinking. Were there no regulatory bodies you could shop him to on the way out?

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


My company talks big about security, to the point we're not even allowed to say the clients names or the name of the project we're working on, and have to refer to them indirectly. Yet they haven't put permissions on anything, so I can see all the other projects they're working on for super secret clients, and even access the contracts and tax info for every employee.

No one else seems to have figured this out, and in meetings with management there are people who've worked there years longer than me asking if we can see previews of the other projects the company is working on, but management always says that's super secret and that's why they had to create separate divisions for them.

Goldskull
Feb 20, 2011

Last place I was full time at got hit hard by the 2008 credit crunch thing - a bad combination of big projects all finishing up around that time, and the one massive incoming job that would've kept them going pulling out of the contract at the last minute. So cue the 100+ employees all being called to the big meeting room to be told redundancies would be made later that day, and you'll be informed in due course. Which is a lovely thing to face and really made us all want to do work that day. I was one of the 10 on a 'last in, first out' basis, along with 9 other people who actually got things done there. Notably, none of the 4th floor Strategy people on 6 figure salaries were among us, which pissed a lot of people off because in the year I was there I had absolutely no idea what any of them did.
I was waiting on final approval to send a project out to print I'd spent 3 months on, so once I got shitcanned I had to run a colleague through it all. Turns out a couple of months later it won various awards, and he was treated to a cash prize and some other goodies. At least he paid for my drinks all night while telling me this. As you'd expect, writing's on the wall far as further redundancies were about to come, so people started leaving in droves, exacerbated by having to promote people out of their depth to replace them as they'd put a hiring freeze on.
Within a year they'd lost or sacked 50% of the workforce, moved to much smaller offices and sometime in the last year or so got folded into another similar firm owned by the same conglomerate. My department was disbanded entirely around 2010 and the work pushed out to one of the European offices. I'm still friends with a bunch of folk I worked with there as my trade is a small world, but they made some atrocious decisions in who to keep and who to kick aside.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Reminds me of the time I was being trained about group mailboxes and picked a random one from the list to see what the "you need to request access" error looked like. Instead I had full access to a shared inbox for director level reports etc because loads of them had the wrong permissions. This was about a month after a big data security push.

I bet they loved that little security breach report I had to fill in.

NapalmWeasel
Aug 10, 2012

Ccs posted:

My company talks big about security, to the point we're not even allowed to say the clients names or the name of the project we're working on, and have to refer to them indirectly. Yet they haven't put permissions on anything, so I can see all the other projects they're working on for super secret clients, and even access the contracts and tax info for every employee.

No one else seems to have figured this out, and in meetings with management there are people who've worked there years longer than me asking if we can see previews of the other projects the company is working on, but management always says that's super secret and that's why they had to create separate divisions for them.

Maybe they actually put permissions in but screwed yours up? Is there anyone with a similar account name in a managerial position?


goatface posted:

Reminds me of the time I was being trained about group mailboxes and picked a random one from the list to see what the "you need to request access" error looked like. Instead I had full access to a shared inbox for director level reports etc because loads of them had the wrong permissions. This was about a month after a big data security push.

I bet they loved that little security breach report I had to fill in.

lol that's great. I'm sure your reaction was more like "gently caress. Now I gotta fill out paperwork so I don't look like I was intentionally trying to glean information I shouldn't have access to."

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
Helljob had no real permissions on our network shares, so whee having unrestricted access to the HR drive and everyone's write-ups, paperwork and other insanely sensitive info :toot:

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer

NapalmWeasel posted:

lol that's great. I'm sure your reaction was more like "gently caress. Now I gotta fill out paperwork so I don't look like I was intentionally trying to glean information I shouldn't have access to."

P much. After that and a few other procedural snafus I was involved in unpicking that year, legal now know who I am. I'm not sure if that's good or not.

A Fancy Hat
Nov 18, 2016

Always remember that the former President was dumber than the dumbest person you've ever met by a wide margin

I was in the logistics department at an old job, which basically boiled down to scheduling trucks delivering raw materials for production and finished goods to customers. We had a system set up where customer service or the factory would enter their needs, then an hour later it would hit our system and we could start assigning drivers and scheduling pickup and delivery appointments. The issue was that hour lag - we ran into major issues where people would put orders in at 5 pm that had to go out that night, but we'd be out of the office by the time they hit our system. Or, even if we happened to catch it, there'd be no appointments available for scheduling at that point and you'd be boned anyway.

We had enough production shutdowns and late customer orders that they had an efficiency expert sit with us so we could explain the issue. All of us had a simple fix - if customer service or production puts in an order after 3 pm that had to go out that night or the next morning they had to shoot us an email heads up AND ensure there was an open appointment at either the factory or the customer to take this stuff. She sat with us for like a week and saw this exact issue come up multiple times, then left and ensured us she was going to get it fixed.

Nothing happened and about a week later our boss called us in for an emergency meeting and lectured us on how terrible our performance was. Less than a year later we were all laid off and they had a team of 5 interns try to do our entire department's job instead. From what I heard it was a complete disaster and I'm really glad it happened to them.

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

Oh man flip flopping between lawful evil and chaotic good, no wonder I'm schizophrenic

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

Speaking of email signatures, I was supposed to interview some chick back in November (she freaked out when I emailed her to confirm and accused me of being a scammer).

After insulting me, she signed off with "enjoy the balance of your day." Bitch, how?! You unbalanced the poo poo out of it!

thanks for reminding me that my day, and thus my life, is composed of units that continually drain into the ether and will never return!!! It feels REALLLLLYYYYYYY good!!!

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Marcade
Jun 11, 2006


Who are you to glizzy gobble El Vago's marshmussy?

Government, so dumb poo poo is the norm; this is minor in comparison to most everything posted here however I tried to submit a ticket to IT only to find that the only link we have for the reporting system is wrong. Help Desk insists that you submit a ticket for help. Can't submit a ticket if you can't reach the ticket system...actually, that's not dumb, that's kind of brilliant.

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