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Paradoxish posted:Nowhere in the US even attempted a real lockdown and you know it. There was never any hope that NY's restrictions would achieve the same results as the lockdowns in New Zealand, Victoria, or Wuhan. I'm not even convinced that US restrictions outside of school closures accomplished anything at all since there's plenty of data showing that restaurant traffic remained solidly suppressed long after restrictions were lifted in most places. lol
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Gunshow Poophole posted:no it didn’t cam we stop with this fuckin pcr cycle nonsense lol you dipshits falling for CHUD memes never ceases to amaze Thank you for this informative point by point rebuttal, very compelling stuff
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Happy Thread posted:Thank you for this informative point by point rebuttal, very compelling stuff I cannot for the life of me find any og source material for the PCR claim. I looked high, I looked low, and came away frustrated because it is otherwise a nice clean explanation. Have you seen something specific?
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SchnorkIes posted:Aren't they not really following the case curve? they are on the national level yeah. peak 1 wk avg deaths was 24 days ago, and deaths have decreased about 40% in that time. peak cases was about 40 days ago. 24 days since then, cases decreased about 40% now that vaccines have already rolled out at least one dose to those most likely to die, I'm expecting deaths to out pace the case fall. a good thing! I'm also expecting the unvaccinated school kids to infect their unvaccinated parents more and more as in person school continues, and we will start seeing proportional increases in every demo below 65+ year olds. this is already happening at least in Florida.
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Epic High Five posted:Trump was definitely a dumpster fire but if you're living in a solid blue that that did a 180 overnight on COVID measures because now opening up helps one of Their Guys, you're in a whole lot more danger than if Trump had won and they still had to performatively resist lmao
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Feb 21, 2021 07:32
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13 kids from a single kindergarten brought B.1.1.7. home. All the schools are still open without any precautions except attempts at distancing and using sanitiser.
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smoobles posted:sadly there's no vaccine against reading you're posts 
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Tell me about PCR cycle
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The Saddest Rhino posted:after i get slutted up and america stops being the international centre of pandemics i'm going to come stay in your clown hotels https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QBJaTtF7XI
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Happy Thread posted:1. Vastly less testing. Testing centers have almost all been converted to vaccination centers, which did not become a scandal because people are distracted by vaccines Yeah, p much all of this is wrong. I think it's more that we're returning to the already very high baseline from a holiday spike. The story shouldn't be "cases are dropping like a rock", but rather "holy gently caress gently caress gently caress what did we do? Christmas was a disaster!"
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Feb 21, 2021 07:42
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Tzen posted:Yeah. It loving sucks badly. Oh cool a recent example of this, Yeah, the total destruction of the few public institutions that seemed to still be trustworthy is just... something else. The CDC is politicized. White House messaging on a loving pandemic can't be trusted. The fed has all but admitted that BLS employment numbers are total bullshit. You don't need conspiracy theories about case numbers because the government is literally openly admitting that it can't be trusted.
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Judakel posted:Tell me about PCR cycle I hear if we're all in quarantine long enough the PCR cycles sync up
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Feb 21, 2021 07:44
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Judakel posted:Tell me about PCR cycle The WHO said something last month about checking the manufacturers instructions for how to set thresholds and number of cycles, but I don't know anything about the cycle number being reduced to 30 or whatever.
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Feb 21, 2021 07:47
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I believe in PCR Posting Constantly about RUSSIAGATE
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Feb 21, 2021 07:49
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Charles 2 of Spain posted:When you do PCR you replicate the DNA(?) in each cycle. There's also a threshold for how much virus is deemed to be positive. So basically the more cycles you do, the more chance you have of reaching the threshold and being declared positive. Of course the tests take longer if you do more cycles. This is a good breakdown of the controversy and it does a good job debunking the conspiracy interpretation
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Feb 21, 2021 08:03
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This conspiracy poo poo is dumb as hell if Joe Biden wanted to make the numbers smaller he'd just be like "listen here jack, we changed the PCRs because schools have to open and we're reclaiming the soul of the nation from malarkey" and no one would care. If you gave a single hot gently caress what would happen if you did this in full view of the public would you loving hire this guy? https://twitter.com/ddiamond/status/1363132264541020160?s=20
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my best theories for case plummets imo: * Reset to baseline from holiday explosion * Fewer national superspreader events happening in January (see above) * cases spike and fall and we're in a statistical trough right now but can expect them to shoot right back up in a few weeks especially with the new variant gassing up Weak poo poo that maybe contributes to slowing but not as much as people say it does: * More immune folks (via vaccines or natural immunity.) * Seasonality * Federal policy or leadership changes (loool, trumbo deplatforming probably had a greater effect than anything else if you ask me)
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Feb 21, 2021 08:15
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"selling-advice process" is a god damned amazing term. absolutely incredible
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Feb 21, 2021 08:16
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El Mero Mero posted:my best theories for case plummets imo: I agree with this I'd add that we should start seeing an even more extreme rapid decline in deaths and hospitalizations in the next week or two, regardless of what daily cases do, and something would be extremely wrong if we didn't
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Feb 21, 2021 08:22
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people are voluntarily staying home in big enough numbers to actually make a difference, the problem is that not enough people are doing so for long enough so it keeps lingering around because people do need to keep going to work to survive thanks to our government refusing to do anything otherwise
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Feb 21, 2021 08:29
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Actually covid is over now, hence why the decline in cases started when Biden took over. Science is in charge now
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El Mero Mero posted:This is a good breakdown of the controversy and it does a good job debunking the conspiracy interpretation
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Shipon posted:people are voluntarily staying home in big enough numbers to actually make a difference, the problem is that not enough people are doing so for long enough so it keeps lingering around because people do need to keep going to work to survive thanks to our government refusing to do anything otherwise This is what's happened in the Philippines since about October*. The thing to watch out for is if the cases level off and never go back further down beyond a lower level. * but is in danger of getting overturned because thr govt is gonna OPEN ER UP further in March
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So I'm in Washington which just apparently decided the virus isn't a thing anymore since Biden. My company had managed to somehow never have an official covid case till now. Our accounts payable person casually mentioned her covid brain fog and her husband being super sick. "hey sorry don't trust my numbers! The covid brain fog has me" lmaooo Now I'm seeing everyone chattering about going to restaurants and my coworkers are telling me their kids are back at school in person and already getting emails that their kids classmates have covid. I started always wearing the Honeywell p100 half respirator like 2 months ago and I'm so loving happy about it. People have been like "wow you look so serious!" yeah gently caress you nose dicker. Living in a state that was doing OK keeping the infection rate low and now suddenly isn't sucks poo poo.
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Yeah if you're in a deep blue state and/or work with a bunch of bruncher libs this is an incredibly dangerous time for you and nobody will ever point this out to you except insane broke brains here lol I'm in a blue dot in a red sea and mask compliance has gone to poo poo in the last month. Still pretty good strictly indoors but that's the extent of it, and people are back to socializing more or less like normal
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A coworker I follow on Instagram due to their cool car projects (I work with industrial designers) posted a picture at a brunch spot this morning, seriously. I had forgotten that indoor seating was being allowed again and it broke my brain.
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I didn't keep the link for the PCR thing but I do remember seeing this thread go from challenging the claim to going "wait oh poo poo there's something to it", and I trust this thread.El Mero Mero posted:This is a good breakdown of the controversy and it does a good job debunking the conspiracy interpretation Here's a tweet thread that their debunking cites about how PCR works. https://twitter.com/MackayIM/status/1345203080732635136 I honestly can't make sense of the argument they're trying to make. It isn't made very well, so it comes of as making an empty excuse for why something doesn't matter.
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silicone thrills posted:A coworker I follow on Instagram due to their cool car projects (I work with industrial designers) posted a picture at a brunch spot this morning, seriously. The spin gym down the block from me is free trials and discounted memberships We're going to be so hosed as soon as there's a variant cluster here
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I thought there already has been b117 detected in Seattle Hahaha gently caress it has about 2. 5 weeks ago. No wonder everyone's showing up sick now in my life. gently caress https://publichealthinsider.com/2021/01/23/the-new-variant-covid-19-strain-is-here-heres-what-you-need-to-know/
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A friend of mine is supposed to start a new job soon, but her paperwork is gonna be a little late because the small company's HR person went to Honduras. Not on a fact-finding mission or for humanitarian aid; for a week's vacation.
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no big deal just wear a respirator and goggles
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silicone thrills posted:I thought there already has been b117 detected in Seattle lol every bar and restaurant I saw when I went for a walk was packed tonight
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Feb 21, 2021 09:27
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Shiroc posted:lol every bar and restaurant I saw when I went for a walk was packed tonight gently caress it's a good thing covid is over
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silicone thrills posted:So I'm in Washington which just apparently decided the virus isn't a thing anymore since Biden.
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https://twitter.com/reese_shapiro/status/1363406703673360384?s=19 how could this go wrong??????
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Google Butt posted:its really insane how the switch flipped overnight lol The science says Open er up!
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Guys I have some GREAT news https://abcnews.go.com/Health/antho...1wrZnAVpATwkhOg 
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"The timeline is a shift from previous comments" HE'S loving LYING
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