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I can't play FIFA no more cause Barnet are too bad at football to be allowed in anymore
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Never any actually entertaining progs on such as Law n Order, NCIS, CSI, Lewis*, Midsomer Murders, Murder She Wrote, Taggart... We get it, you're a Lady Of A Certain Age. Also CSI Lewis should be a new show investigating Victorian nonces. e: Wait was it Lewis Carrol who was the nonce? I get them confused.
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Communist Thoughts posted:I can't play FIFA no more cause Barnet are too bad at football to be allowed in anymore I've been boycotting it since they dropped Motty as commentator.
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Josef bugman posted:I've always wondered about this particular critique. Does it extend to all of the CoD games as well? I haven't the recent CoD games but the modern warfare ones are absolutely the same game, and codblops was very similar too, world at war was the same formula but it had a flamethrower and I guess also set in ww2 pacific but otherwise identical. Only buy it for the simulated warcrimes imo. And if you just want that then I would suggest wolfenstein 2008 instead because you can warcrime nazis and also they have a whole range of warcrime guns for you to use so it's 1. funner and 2. ethical. That was a lot of the reason I stopped playing them because they were literally just the same game, and it's not like the game was interesting enough to justify it to begin with. I think they mostly get sales from people trying to follow the multiplayer playerbase around. goddamnedtwisto posted:We get it, you're a Lady Of A Certain Age. Carrol was the one who had the page 3 archives. Lewis was the weirdo christian one who wrote narnia as bible fanfic. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Feb 21, 2021 |
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Feb 21, 2021 13:49
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*fogs daguerreotype plate* "Good lord, it's all of them!"
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Fair enough to not like stuff, and not want it on, but being proud of yourself for hating sport and playing videogames instead is loving peak ukmt, jaesus. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that a shared experience of watching something emotionally engaging with others and then perhaps discussing and bonding over it would be anathema to some people. Videogames are another form of consumption, and if you think I give a poo poo about your Minecraft scale model of the tower of London I don't and no one else does either.
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CancerCakes posted:I guess I shouldn't be surprised that a shared experience of watching something emotionally engaging with others and then perhaps discussing and bonding over it would be anathema to some people. We have an entire forum where people do this about video games, in case you weren't aware.
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Feb 21, 2021 13:51
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And one about comic books, and one about comic books but they're Japanese or something. The entire internet could be judged as a shared bonding experience over things that would be anathema to pre-internet mass-culture society, for better (BLM) and worse (Q) and everything in between. 
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Feb 21, 2021 13:55
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OwlFancier posted:
CS Lewis also thought that people cared way too much about little boys getting raped in public schools and that nobody would care if it were girls.
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Feb 21, 2021 13:56
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I think people have written papers on the concept of let's play as a form of socialization, "passive multiplayer" it's called, the idea that you play a game and you watch other people play games and you are playing games together but asyncrhonously, but the shared experience of play is still there to a degree, if not even enhanced for people who find synchronous socialization to be exhausting (see also, forums)
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Feb 21, 2021 13:58
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goddamnedtwisto posted:We get it, you're a Lady Of A Certain Age. I'd never be friends with anyone who can't get some kind of enjoyment from CSI miami tbh
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Feb 21, 2021 14:02
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in another 45mins I will tell you whether sport is good or not.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:in another 45mins I will tell you whether sport is good or not. I can very confidently say sport is cool and good and I would like give VAR a big wet kiss on the bottom.
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Feb 21, 2021 14:12
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don't worry soon Jose will be gone and your woes will be soothed by *reads note* brendan rodgers??
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Sport is the reason I spend half my life looking for  BT Sport streams for my fiancée that work with a decade old PS4 browser.
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I've a friend who isn't on social media. She said to me "I don't know what people find to do on the internet. I check my email, check my ebay, maybe look at the weather, then I think 'now what?" (No need to tell you she is permanently tuned in to LBC on her tv (the radio bits)). And as we're on the topic of nonces, she also forced me to go and see Gary Glitter at Brixton Academy twice (in the 'before we knew' days) as punishment for me making her go and see WASP at the Marquee and dragging her off to Donington when Metallica were headline.
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Spangly A posted:I'd never be friends with anyone who can't get some kind of enjoyment from CSI miami tbh I have only seen one episode, which was about sunglasses man lusting for the death penalty and pretty sidekick posing with a gun. I got the impression CSI Miami was made by fash who were owning the libs, ie probably CSI New York. I don't think I like any CSI, though; Scandi noir is where it's at.
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Feb 21, 2021 14:37
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OwlFancier posted:We have an entire forum where people do this about video games, in case you weren't aware. you looked at the sa games forum and decided it was about people bonding over videogames??
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the games forum is about proving you are the apex gamer while sports teams are a tribal activity where you and many other sports fans laugh at other sports teams for being bad.
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Oh dear me posted:I don't think I like any CSI, though; Scandi noir is where it's at. What are the CSI's about? From a purely exterior perspective it seems to be "police procedural, but solved via magic"
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Josef bugman posted:I've always wondered about this particular critique. Does it extend to all of the CoD games as well? Fifa I agree has kind of stagnated. There is normally a big overhaul every 10 years or so, so hopefully another one will come soon. The current version is still largely an iteration of Fifa 2009, which was pretty revolutionary and was when Fifa reclaimed being the best football game (which pro evo had dominated for the past few years).
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Josef bugman posted:What are the CSI's about? From a purely exterior perspective it seems to be "police procedural, but solved via magic" Much like the Labour leadership ha ha
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:you looked at the sa games forum and decided it was about people bonding over videogames?? My fondness for Owl has definitely been increased by knowing he appreciates X games. 
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:you looked at the sa games forum and decided it was about people bonding over videogames?? I mean it might just be that I have exquisite games taste and all the games I like attract only the finest posters but yeah, basically, games is full of people gushing about the games they like and talking about how they like playing them.
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Josef bugman posted:What are the CSI's about? From a purely exterior perspective it seems to be "police procedural, but solved via magic"
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Josef bugman posted:"police procedural, but solved via magic" That's correct, and the forensic wizards are also gun carrying cops.
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Oh dear me posted:My fondness for Owl has definitely been increased by knowing he appreciates X games. The only good capitalism is space capitalism. Because if you do it enough you can create de-facto space command economy. Alternatively you can end up selling arms to all sides in the endless space war thereby highlighting the inherent immorality of the profit motive.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Nostalgia chat:  Yes, a good post. One way I've been spending lockdown is watching through about 20 total hours of family camcorder footage that my Mum's just had digitised, most of which is from when me and my sister were in single-digit ages in the late 80s/early 90s, and it's been generating some powerful nostalgia feels for a time that I know was actually much worse than the present in many ways, even if you had my excessively upper-middle-class upbringing and definitely shittier for a lot of other people. Basically it comes down to this: Jaeluni Asjil posted:I also think that there is an element of people being actually very young (or not even born) and being mostly unaware of adult life under these past idylls - managing money, going to work, bringing up kids and so on, so the nostalgia is partly for a time when you didn't have to worry about any of that stuff because someone else was doing all the worrying on your behalf. Also, without the internet, a lot of people were blissfully unaware of things that were going on. because the camcorder only came out for birthdays, Christmas, school fetes, the arrival of new pets, family holidays and occasional curated slice-of-life stuff like my Dad filming taking us kids for a walk from the house to the village shop and back. They didn't film the bad stuff and they didn't record their worries, setbacks, troubles, fallings-out, disappointments and so on. In the Before Times I actually detoured through the village I grew up in on the way to see my Mum and subjected my gf to a whole lot of  about how much it had changed for the worse with new housing developments, 'too many cars' parked on the street and the new extension they've put on the school. It's CHANGE. In lockdown I've also been spending more time than normal (healthy) on my city's online image archive. One of the few outstanding public-spirited things Peterborough has ever done is that there is a huge freely-accessible site of images from the council and the Peterborough Telegraph, bolstered by some acquired private collections and now open to public submissions. It's essentially a complete pictorial record of the city in the 20th century. And, godammit, I scroll through it and find myself getting nostalgic for a city I've only lived in since 2012 and a time period that was decades before I was born and, again, I know was actually pretty poo poo. I think it's important to pin down what's attractive about these glimpes into the past. Often it's because the images were taken in the 70s and 80s when Peterborough was having the modern equivalent of £billions chucked into it as it was rebuilt as a New Town, so everything is modern, new, clean and well-maintained. It's the neatly-trimmed, flowerbed-strewn and litter-free roads - because people were paid to cut the grass, tend the flowers and pick up litter. It's the city centre with a diverse mix of independent shops, cafes, pubs restaurants and service businesses because they hadn't been driven out by excessive rents, stupid rates levels and giant tax-dodging chain stores. It's the photo of the Baker Perkins Works Football Club lifting the trophy after their win against the New England Shunter's Sports Society because it reflects a time when there were lots secure, well-paid productive semi-skilled job in the city and people actually had the time and means to have some sort of community social life. It's the families queuing up to hire a pedalo or a rowing boat on the River Nene on a hot summer's day because that wharf has since been demolished and replaced by luxury apartments which block public access to that side of the river from the city centre. It's the trams and the National Bus Company-liveried buses because it's a reminder that we used to have an excellent mass transit system in the city, and one that wasn't run by a private corporation with lovely labour practices. And so on. If you just get swept up in the aesthetic of those sun-tinted Kodachromes of pristine newly-laid concrete streets with flower beds, pictures of the new City Hospital where the staff outnumber the waiting patients in A&E or a family moving into their new council house in South Bretton in 1976 then that's the route to the right-wing sort of nostalgia which leads to fascism, which is all about the aesthetic. That's what my mother-in-law (30+ years Peterborough resident) is sliding towards. She's convinced that the city is a worse place to live in than it was in the 80s and 90s (plausible, but certainly debatable) and that its decline was caused solely by the arrival of Eastern European people. That's it as far as she's concerned - those two factors are solely and directly linked because she remembers the first Polish people moving into her street in 2006 and everything's got worse since then. The fact that this was just before the Great Recession and then a decade of austerity where the social and economic fabric of the city has (like so many other places) gradually been strip-mined away and that if Peterborough had as much money thrown at it from central government as it did in the days of the Peterborough Development Corporation and had the same surplus of capacity in its infrastructure and services things would be much better just don't register. She - like virtually every other Peterborian over the age of 50 - blames the decline of the city centre solely on the new pedestrianised Cathedral Square they put in in 2011, replacing the original 1970s one and knocking down the horrendously ugly Corn Exchange building which looked like a 65-foot tall Dualit toaster rendered in concrete. Any and all business problems in the city centre are because of this, nothing to do with any broader-scale issues that might have gone on in the country or the world since 2011. As far as she's concerned, get rid of the foreigners and put Cathedral Square back to how it was and everything will be peachy. The aesthetic comes first. Jose posted:What kind of people are they using for these focus groups lol Conservatives. Partly because they're the only people with the time and arrogance to be on political focus groups, but also because Starmer's entire ploy seems to be "we need people who voted Conservative to vote for us, so we'll ask them what they want" rather than either trying to convince people who voted Conservative to change their mind to a different set of policies (unlikely, I'll grant) or to try and get onboard the 60% of the country who didn't vote Conservative...or even the third of the electorate which didn't vote at all.
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OwlFancier posted:I haven't the recent CoD games but the modern warfare ones are absolutely the same game, and codblops was very similar too, world at war was the same formula but it had a flamethrower and I guess also set in ww2 pacific but otherwise identical. Only buy it for the simulated warcrimes imo. And if you just want that then I would suggest wolfenstein 2008 instead because you can warcrime nazis and also they have a whole range of warcrime guns for you to use so it's 1. funner and 2. ethical. Personally I grew out of COD because as time went on it became just how fundamentaly unbalanced the game is. The game's progression system and killstreak rewards benefit those with more time played in a game already very reliant in player knowledge/experience and are often completely at odds with any game mode that isn't free for all. Basically if you do well at all the game showers you with advantages like revealing enemy positions, airstrikes or just a pack of instakill dogs that'll roam the map and rack up your kill count for you. Not to mention the 'nuke' killstreak which just declares you the winner after killing everyone on both teams. It doesn't matter if you were playing a gamemode where you were supposed to be diffusing a bomb or capturing something, just turn the game off because some fucker camped out 25 kills in one life (most of which came from killstreak rewards). One time they added a balancing feature that gave players who've died a bunch in a row a little temporary perk to get them back into the game, they didn't put it in the next game because the community decided it wasn't fair on the people doing well that they might have to face a player with extra armour or grenade while they're busy spawncamping the poo poo out of the enemy team. I forgot my point but gently caress COD in general.
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Oh dear me posted:I don't think I like any CSI, though; Scandi noir is where it's at. Is Wallander Scandi Noir? It passed me by originally so I've caught up on it since Christmas and been enjoying it. It's a very different experience to Mallorca Files or Shakespeare and Hathaway.
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Josef bugman posted:What are the CSI's about? From a purely exterior perspective it seems to be "police procedural, but solved via magic" CSI Miami is ridiculous murders (e.g. man obliterated by railgun) set in an alternate universe where David Caruso is inexplicably the coolest man in the world. Literally everything revolves like clockwork around providing him an opportunity to make an absurd quip or walk away from an explosion in slow motion, punctuated by him donning or doffing his sunglasses for no particular reason. An ordinary conversation with forensics about the nature of a bullet wound will be abruptly terminated when he slings out a quip and immediately exits the room. Everyone around him is fine with this and never brings it up with him or anyone else. It's like a modern Steven Seagal movie where the hero just raises his fists and the bad guys run into them at full force before somersaulting themselves out of windows. Convex fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Feb 21, 2021 |
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I don't watch football either but it isn't the only sport. All the good sports take place on either snow or ice*, unfortunately the climate of the UK means it's a bit tough for most people to participate in those and so they aren't popular enough to merit mainstream TV broadcast outside of the Winter Olympics. *rock climbing is an exception but competition climbing is tedious, and the top level of the outdoor sport generally involves some wiry guy spending months at a remote crag falling repeatedly while trying to find the precise foot position on a 2mm protrusion that will give him the leverage to make another tiny bit of progress. That can make for some good films, but it isn't very exciting to watch live.
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Mr Phillby posted:I feel like its a bit different for an online shooter as even between COD games the weapon selection/balance and map selection changes whereas Sport games focus on maintaining the player roster to be as real to life as possible. Imagine if the next fifa game had a bunch if exciting new pitches and shoe types!!! Like both are lovely corporate Enterprises but its a tad disingenuous to compare a sequel with entirely differeng content to a yearly roster update even if the core gameplay isn't drastically altered. That could be accomodated for by charging far less for the token yearly update.
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OwlFancier posted:Basically though I don't like the format. Like, the entire format of "you watch a thing happen at you" so that means no TV, movies, theater, music shows, anything like that. No fiction books either?
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Embrace the highest for of culture: play Counter-Strike for 20 years and become steadily less able to compete against the never ending stream of obnoxious teenagers imo
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Mr Phillby posted:I feel like its a bit different for an online shooter as even between COD games the weapon selection/balance and map selection changes whereas Sport games focus on maintaining the player roster to be as real to life as possible. Imagine if the next fifa game had a bunch if exciting new pitches and shoe types!!! Like both are lovely corporate Enterprises but its a tad disingenuous to compare a sequel with entirely differeng content to a yearly roster update even if the core gameplay isn't drastically altered.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:No fiction books either? TBF I think this is a problem I have sometimes. I end up thinking silly things like "why not use violence in this instance" when it's a story being told to you, you are supposed to analyse the themes it is trying to put forward, not look for plot holes. Though I also often feel the same way towards actual history so there is that 
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Lungboy posted:Is Wallander Scandi Noir? I think the Swedish version officially counts, but it's more episodic and (I think) less gripping than The killing and The bridge, which are the classics. I wouldn't count the English version, but it's not bad either.
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