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signalnoise posted:Yeah well, you'd be wrong because action rpg is Diablo clones. Look man I didn't make the laws about this but gamer law clearly states that genres are immutable and highly specific there's no need to be embarrassed
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hawowanlawow posted:there's no need to be embarrassed Don't tell me how to live my life
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Feb 22, 2021 05:24
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If you're playing a game designed for a CRT monitor on an LCD, then you aren't playing the same game, way too many people complain about older games graphics when they aren't even bad if you're playing them on appropriate hardware
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Feb 22, 2021 05:25
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By the same token if you're playing an indie game on a screen that has a different calibration profile than the dev had it is also not the same  Let us judge pixels by their fatness
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Feb 22, 2021 06:03
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judge the pixel not by the girth of its form but by whether or not it bleeds
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Feb 22, 2021 06:09
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Reminded of that Lego NES model and how most of it is a big boxy faux wood panel TV with the antennas and the knobs and everything. It's still weird how much flat screens changed the game overnight, though it was a messy process. I remember my brothers played without a HDMI cable and didn't notice the difference til I got them one and plugged it in and suddenly text became readable. (was a big problem with the early 360 era, iirc) Speaking of, so many loving proprietary and complicated plugs just disappeared overnight.
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adhuin posted:OW has KDR table in the Deathmatch modes. Yes we know and are capable of taking that into account when reading a scoreboard. Data good. Well having data is good, how it's use though tends to be where problems occur. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Feb 22, 2021 |
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Feb 22, 2021 06:26
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  It's a filter but hopefully it get's the point across the first image screams "I can't believe games used to look so awful" While the second says "Wow gaming on a CRT was objectively superior, I can't wait to throw my Ps5 in the trash because only three games worth playing have been released since 2000" Gaius Marius fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Feb 22, 2021 |
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Feb 22, 2021 06:38
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Reminded of that Lego NES model and how most of it is a big boxy faux wood panel TV with the antennas and the knobs and everything. Those of us who used a Wii are offended by your suggestion that it was "overnight" People talk poo poo about the Switch being ~just a remakes console~ or whatever but gently caress that, playing Wii games at a decent resolution is loving good. I would pay for virtual console type poo poo that was nothing more than Wii games rendered better and with joycons instead of wiimotes signalnoise fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Feb 22, 2021 |
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Feb 22, 2021 06:41
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signalnoise posted:Those of us who used a Wii are offended by your suggestion that it was "overnight" Funny thing is I did use a Wii.
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Gaius Marius posted:
One's wider than the other one right?
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Feb 22, 2021 07:05
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Gaius Marius posted:
they both look like earthworm jim for the SNES to me 
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Feb 22, 2021 07:29
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Rutibex posted:they both look like earthworm jim for the SNES to me That was the genesis version, Prolly not the best example but my point still stands games looked better than we display them now and it's ruining a generation who now think retro games were pixel filled nightmares
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Feb 22, 2021 07:33
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Funny thing is I did use a Wii. A self-offender, I see how it is
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Feb 22, 2021 07:48
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Gaius Marius posted:
The 2nd one's filter is a bit clean still, needs more glowy pixel bleeding. Also the filter that just smooths out all the pixels is better than both anyway.
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Feb 22, 2021 07:50
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Gaius Marius posted:
looks the same to me
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Feb 22, 2021 08:10
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The best thing about crt TVs is you could rest easy knowing if anyone broke into your house not only would they be physically unable to take your tv with them, but also if you have it high up enough you could potentially use it as a self defence weapon
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I'm surprised a Hitman game never had an option to shoot down a fitting for a CRT to fall and crush someone.
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If you can move a 30 inch hdcrt around a room using only your body you are not human
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Feb 22, 2021 08:35
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It's only like 200 pounds. Kinda sucks cause the weights at the front but it ain't difficult
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painstakingly explaining to the tinder date who came over my apartment why i have a giant antique cube tv in my room, showing examples of pixel bleed and scan lines
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Trinitron.
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the most badass thing i ever did was lift and move some 42 inch crt out of a room and into a car by myself when my dad and his friend were struggling with it lol. thank you neighbors for leaving me your weight set when you moved back when i was a teen.
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CRT TVs forced game developers to use large, legible fonts. Nowadays most games have tiny thin text designed to be read 3" away from a computer screen.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I'm surprised a Hitman game never had an option to shoot down a fitting for a CRT to fall and crush someone. Goldeneye did.
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My takeaway from Braid and The Witness is that Jonathan Blow is alright at making reasonably clever puzzle mechanics but not particularly good at designing puzzles around them. Also like 75% of the poo poo he got was from people being anti-intellectual weirdos, but then he showed his rear end on Twitter by mouthing off about how women are less inclined towards programming  type poo poo so basically gently caress him anyway.
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Feb 22, 2021 12:26
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I have no strong political feelings re Jonathan Blow but The Witness is one of the greatest videogames ever made
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JollyBoyJohn posted:I have no strong political feelings re Jonathan Blow but The Witness is one of the greatest videogames ever made Some of the puzzles were plain old obtuse. But I guess that’s part of the charm.
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Workaday Wizard posted:Some of the puzzles were plain old obtuse. But I guess that’s part of the charm. Agreed but you could say the same about Myst, i think its just close to being a prefect videogame, the way it explains itself, just perfect. Pretentious and as smug as gently caress in places but as a GAME, super solid and man I wish i could forget it all and play again
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John Murdoch posted:My takeaway from Braid and The Witness is that Jonathan Blow is alright at making reasonably clever puzzle mechanics but not particularly good at designing puzzles around them. I'm not sure about that, Braid is super clever a whole bunch of times. I should play the Witness, i think I'd probably be impressed although i'm dumb and i'd have to cheat.
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John Murdoch posted:My takeaway from Braid and The Witness is that Jonathan Blow is alright at making reasonably clever puzzle mechanics but not particularly good at designing puzzles around them. It wasn't anti-intellectualism, Braid was a fun platformer but was also full of cringe writing
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QuarkJets posted:It wasn't anti-intellectualism, Braid was a fun platformer but was also full of cringe writing The thing is, most people didn't say "boy the writing sure was embarrassing and cringey" they just repeated the same poo poo ad nauseum about him being pretentious and hipster and weird and Jonathan Blowhard more like xD which was my point. FWIW I reached a cromulent reading of The Witness and was perfectly satisfied with it, enough to not consider it pretentious or anything of the sort, but it probably helped that he actively hid most of the philosophy bits and I only found like, three of them.
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John Murdoch posted:The thing is, most people didn't say "boy the writing sure was embarrassing and cringey" they just repeated the same poo poo ad nauseum about him being pretentious and hipster and weird and Jonathan Blowhard more like xD which was my point. That's pretty much the exact same thing Disco Elysium succeeds because the protagonist is basically noir detective Slavoj Zizek and they embrace the aesthetic of being filthy human disasters trying to make sense of a broken world
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I enjoyed Braid when it was released, no qualifiers on that. It was a good game, even if I feel no need to go back to it. A quick google for the ending's meaning told me that the creator was upset that people figured it out (WW2 nuke quotes), but I thought nothing of it and merrily went on my way. When The Witness came out recently, it started strong but quickly went up its own arse (possibly trying to ape The Talos Principle?) with deep-sounding quotes that actually had nothing to do with anything. Then the puzzles turned to poo poo and I couldn't even get a early finish of the game since I refused to put up with that BS anymore. I did not know that they where made by the same guy until this thread told me about it a while ago, and I still stand by saying The Witness is pretentious poo poo in addition to being a disappointing puzzle game and this opinion has nothing to do with any preconceptions or biases against its creator.
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I liked Braid and mostly liked The Witness, but I also like Dear Esther so my opinion doesn't count. With The Witness I got to the point where I only had a couple of normal puzzles left, then solved a few of the 'hidden' world puzzles. I thought they were really cool at first, but when I saw them light up the totem and just how many there were, I immediately lost all interest in playing. Something about collectathons really saps my will to play, even if they're optional. One day I might go back and at least finish the normal puzzles, like the super hard one on the crashed ship.
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Workaday Wizard posted:CRT TVs forced game developers to use large, legible fonts. Nowadays most games have tiny thin text designed to be read 3" away from a computer screen. this is very noticeable if you try to play PS3 on a CRT. lots of the text is just unreadable
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Discovering the environmental puzzles in The Witness is easily in my top 5 gaming moments. I didn’t mind the philosophy recordings - it felt to me a little like meditation. Walking around solving puzzles while listening to people talk was a relaxing way to wind down for the day. I also liked how you could think you knew the rules of a puzzle for a few panels, but then a counter-example gets thrown at you that makes you re-examine what you thought you understood. Kinda like science.
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Rutibex posted:this is very noticeable if you try to play PS3 on a CRT. lots of the text is just unreadable Ahh, I remember the day I brought my brand new ps3 home, plugged it into the 32in CRT and fired up gta4. Got straight back up again, went out and bought a proper tv
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fridge corn posted:Ahh, I remember the day I brought my brand new ps3 home, plugged it into the 32in CRT and fired up gta4. First time I got a text message in the game got straight back up again, went out and bought a proper tv
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That reminds me - YouTube keeps trying to recommend some video called “The Witness is an amazing game you should never play” and the title is so excruciatingly clickbait-y that I refuse to click it on principle. So wtf is it even about?
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