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Borrovan posted:Don't worry guys, the locals are coming up, if they lose out on those you know they'll see the error of their ways.  no they're definitely going to blame the left. Also in this email the local party announced that they filled every committee position after all the local shitheads ran unopposed. They still email me all kinds of crap after quitting but they definitely didn't email me election nomination materials.
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Communist Thoughts posted:TBF the labour left are also loathed by the public The difference is that a lot of left policies are actually popular - the Labour left has the problem at the minute that the public often say they like socialist things but dislike socialists. The Labour right have the triple problem that: - people dislike them personally - people don't like their policies - people remember when they were in government and didn't like that either
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All the left's fault for not getting behind Keith and supporting him. After all, that's what the right did when Corbyn was leader... erm.... NOT!
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vaccines minister here sporting a curious moustache loving up in a pretty big way he managed to repeat on both sky and bbc news https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1363776578535247874?s=20
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Bobstar posted:Are pitas a thing one can make from scratch? I've been making bagels every week, because the only thing you can buy here is, as Michael Rosen puts it, "rolls with holes" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPiA69p4gqE i like this guy “chef john’s” cooking style, but yeah pitas are fun to make never thought to make bagels myself though, i thought it was quite a specialised thing best left for professional bakers
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Jose posted:vaccines minister here sporting a curious moustache loving up in a pretty big way he managed to repeat on both sky and bbc news I don't know what you mean, this is clearly a gradual re-opening from 8th March, which comes after April, and will be well after all over 50's have been vaccinated in May, and well before the coming apocalypse in 2000 as predicted by the Mayan calendar so we have plenty of time. 
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And the data from Scotland has AZ performing better at reducing hospitalisations... https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19107740.coronavirus-scotland-vaccination-linked-substantial-reduction-hospital-admissions/
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Europe's recent play to gently caress up Covid even worse than us has really been remarkable to behold
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Pablo Bluth posted:And the data from Scotland has AZ performing better at reducing hospitalisations... the AZ inability to cope with specific mutations that have popped up independently multiple times might play into this but it's going to be more about AZ trying to break contract, and EU heads of state deciding to use a vaccine supply dispute as a soapbox, than any questions about whether it works e; oh I forgot the bit where the german government had a very loud conversation about whether it works for vulnerable people, entirely based on apparently not knowing how sample sizes work
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Sample sizes work when they ask for a free sample and promote your company based on the size.
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In the ranking of moronic Brexit-related self-harm I wouldn't have guessed that the EU might find a way to beat us out for top spot.
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It's a constant race for the top where you can't stand still. Can't wait for our next power play.
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The Donut posted:I don't know what you mean, this is clearly a gradual re-opening from 8th March, which comes after April, and will be well after all over 50's have been vaccinated in May, and well before the coming apocalypse in 2000 as predicted by the Mayan calendar so we have plenty of time.
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Feb 22, 2021 13:38
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Demographically speaking he will get less tory over time.
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Spangly A posted:
I checked on the UK gov website a few weeks ago and it literally said they didn't have data to say it worked on over 65s.
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lol he's so loving useless https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1363814169666072582?s=20
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Jel Shaker posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPiA69p4gqE Ooh that looks good. I will try that on Wednesday. I am probably cheating horribly and making shameful bagels - I throw the ingredients in the bread machine to make the dough, then form, boil and bake them on these molds - but they are 5x more delicious than the New York-brand ones I used to get in the UK, which in turn are 5x better than the "circle of polystyrene" ones they have here. I make that 25x better in total!
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Feb 22, 2021 13:52
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Has kieth ever categorically denied performing a shameful act with a bagel?
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Jose posted:Come the gently caress on Tbf he did an ocular pat-down and tactically ascertained the restaurants are COVID free
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Feb 22, 2021 14:04
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I'd be interested in going to a PiP themed restaurant when they're safe to eat at. https://twitter.com/PraxisCast/status/1363809403955273728
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You can eat chips in the car park and scream at people now, it's not illegal.
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Spangly A posted:the AZ inability to cope with specific mutations that have popped up independently multiple times might play into this but it's going to be more about AZ trying to break contract, and EU heads of state deciding to use a vaccine supply dispute as a soapbox, than any questions about whether it works See I was going to go "just German things" but checking news in some other countries it's happening across the EU. So that really is a pretty massive EU messaging failure lmbo. Especially after fighting hard to get access to the vaccine in the first place, to the point of causing momentary food shortages in NI.
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TheRat posted:I checked on the UK gov website a few weeks ago and it literally said they didn't have data to say it worked on over 65s. they don't. The subset size is small and the control group had better survival rates than the general public, so what data they had showed that the vaccines had negative efficacy (same # deaths, smaller group than control) and a 95% CI that contained all of the numbers. What they do have is a sample just large enough to hope that the vaccine doesn't immediately kill any seniors who take it, and general efficacy that is between 55-90% or so. You could go and get statistically significant data in a trial by infect several thousand over65s in a control group, but it doesn't really make sense to delay vaccine rollout for this if you've demonstrated the vaccine is well tolerated and generally effective. So it's completely accurate to say "there's no data", and a mind-blowingly poor decision to yell this at the general public during a pandemic when you've got antivaxxers demonstrating real political strength.
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Spangly A posted:What they do have is a sample just large enough to hope that the vaccine doesn't immediately kill any seniors who take it I will say that Norway had to reconsidering their vaccination program after quite a few very old people died just after taking it. This was one of the other vaccines, not AZ. Apparently they had to stop giving the vaccines to people who were very frail because, as many people have reported in the covid thread in D&D, it can make you quite ill for a few days and these people just could not survive that.
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Guavanaut posted:Has kieth ever categorically denied performing a shameful act with a bagel? 
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Guavanaut posted:I'd be interested in going to a PiP themed restaurant when they're safe to eat at. Artisanal Monster Munch and Backside Beans.
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Diane Abbott is trending on Twitter because Nadhim Zahawi doesn't understand how calendars work. Get a new joke, racists.
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O cursèd thread. I started a diet yesterday (for the 3rd time this year) and now my head is full of cravings for fluffy bread things stuffed with omelettes.
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TheRat posted:I will say that Norway had to reconsidering their vaccination program after quite a few very old people died just after taking it. This was one of the other vaccines, not AZ. Apparently they had to stop giving the vaccines to people who were very frail because, as many people have reported in the covid thread in D&D, it can make you quite ill for a few days and these people just could not survive that. I think this is also true of things like the flu jab though, which is why my grandmother never took it despite being at high risk.
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forkboy84 posted:If you make a joke that nae oval office can tell is a joke the problem isn't with the audience. I never suggested it was. I dashed it off last night before bed, and I think at some level I knew it was provocative, so not even I buy the "oh hah ha, it was only a joke". It was disingenuous as a joke, and as an apology. (As someone has pointed out, it wasn't a real apology. And so I don't mind the pile-on, as it as deserved). The r/relationships posts often have the question "Am I the rear end in a top hat" - yes, I was. I should not have made that post. If I had something to say, I should have said it straightforwardly. And it would have been this: I think I saw a reference to Israel and was almost surprised that it wasn't something negative. (Please note that I think Israel's treatment of the Palestinians is shameful and abhorrent, so this is not a defence of Israel per se). It feels to me like Israel has become the slightly lazy go-to for the epitome of an evil regime. Someone wants to make a reference to an atrocity, use Israel. But in addition to that there is something about the level of hatred, the intensity and vehemence of it, that alarms me. I have read the arguments about why this is directed at Israel in a way that it is not at other countries (eg Saudi, China). and I am just not entirely convinced. Those arguments go a good way towards explaining it, but I don't think they fully explain the singular intensity of hatred that Israel receives. I think it is partly that Israel-Palestine is the current cause receiving focus (as, say, apartheid was in the 80s), and to be fair I think that is where most of the attention to it in this thread in particular is coming from, but I cannot escape the nagging feeling at the back of my mind (or occasionally the front, as in last night) that there is an element of AS to it. This thread is actually probably an unfair recipient of that criticism or comment because generally I think people here try hard to be fair, even-handed and morally consistent. And it may simply be the Zionist indoctrination that a lot of Jewish children receive that I have not shaken off - but I don't think so.
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My 90-year old grandfather is refusing the vaccine for various grumpy-old-man related reasons like "I'm already 90" and "I never had a flu shot either".
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Wachter posted:Tbf he did an ocular pat-down and tactically ascertained the restaurants are COVID free Just wanna let you know I appreciated this
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therattle posted:I never suggested it was. I dashed it off last night before bed, and I think at some level I knew it was provocative, so not even I buy the "oh hah ha, it was only a joke". It was disingenuous as a joke, and as an apology. (As someone has pointed out, it wasn't a real apology. And so I don't mind the pile-on, as it as deserved). The r/relationships posts often have the question "Am I the rear end in a top hat" - yes, I was. I should not have made that post. If I had something to say, I should have said it straightforwardly. And it would have been this: The main reason imo is that there's pushback. You go 'Saudi is loving evil' and people just shrug go 'yeah obviously', but with Israel someone is always going ACTUALLY KILLING PALESTINIANS IS FINE AND ISRAEL IS RIGHT TO DO SO which gets people annoyed, and that is reflected back into their attitude about Israel. For me personally it's because I grew up there, and in my experience a lot of left wing jews have it as a very sore sticking point. Probably because we're expected to see it as a beacon of shining light and progressiveness when it's just another lovely apartheid regime that regularly murders it's 2nd class citizens and covers it up while screaming about how barbaric they are for resisting murder.
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E:^^^^ should have just left it to Miftan tbh Israel is criticised because it is a brutal apartheid regime, the same way that SA was criticised in the 80s. It also has the privilege of being a client-state for US force projection in the region, and US colonialism/hegemony is probably the fundamental issue of the loosely-defined international "left". This issue is disingenuously used as a rhetorical cudgel against the left, as part of the ideological battle which prevents us from having or achieving Nice Things. So, Just Asking Questions tends to be received poorly
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u brexit ukip it posted:My 90-year old grandfather is refusing the vaccine for various grumpy-old-man related reasons like "I'm already 90" and "I never had a flu shot either". My dad was feeling rough for a few days after and wishes he'd never had it, poor dab.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:O cursèd thread. I started a diet yesterday (for the 3rd time this year) and now my head is full of cravings for fluffy bread things stuffed with omelettes. I've been downsizing myself since the beginning of January and my body's hanging on to the last few pounds of fat that I want to get rid of with astonishing tenacity. I'm literally starving myself 3 days a week at this point and it's still persisting lol. I just want a flat stomach for once in my life, body, I promise I'm not trying to kill you! therattle posted:I never suggested it was. I dashed it off last night before bed, and I think at some level I knew it was provocative, so not even I buy the "oh hah ha, it was only a joke". This thread has the habit of picking up someone's throwaway remark and angrily analysing it to death, putting in 100 times more effort and emotion than the original post entailed. I wouldn't let it worry you.
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Pistol_Pete posted:I've been downsizing myself since the beginning of January and my body's hanging on to the last few pounds of fat that I want to get rid of with astonishing tenacity. I'm literally starving myself 3 days a week at this point and it's still persisting lol. I just want a flat stomach for once in my life, body, I promise I'm not trying to kill you! At a certain point, this will literally never happen unless you have some abdominal muscle.
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Pistol_Pete posted:I've been downsizing myself since the beginning of January and my body's hanging on to the last few pounds of fat that I want to get rid of with astonishing tenacity. I'm literally starving myself 3 days a week at this point and it's still persisting lol. I just want a flat stomach for once in my life, body, I promise I'm not trying to kill you! have you tried dehydrating yourself
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