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Feb 22, 2021 19:33
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Maybe some day we’ll get Persona: Phantom Blood.  Edit: The Nanjo Group and the Speedwagon Foundation are remarkably similar, aren’t they?
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Feb 22, 2021 19:38
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YaketySass posted:I'd be intrigued to see how you could even adapt the slice of life mechanics around that concept. Yeah, the social links are probably the hardest existing concept to adapt to that concept, but I would like the idea of dungeons having a stricter limit on “we need to do this within a week” since they’ll be gone, and avoid things like “Futaba in a coma for 3 weeks if you do her dungeon early”
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Feb 22, 2021 20:15
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I was amused by how much like a Persona 4 arc Futaba's dungeon ended up being. She's the only one of the team to gain a persona by reconciling with and accepting her shadow and, like the P4 characters, how long it takes for her to recover from the experience depends entirely on how far before the deadline you finish her dungeon 
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Feb 22, 2021 20:18
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I’m replaying P5 with Royal, and drat it’s really good. Like I already really loved 5 but the new additions Royal gives are all so cool. And I’m only just past Kaneshiro so i haven’t even gotten close all the new story content.
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Feb 22, 2021 20:27
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bobjr posted:and avoid things like “Futaba in a coma for 3 weeks if you do her dungeon early” This is the worst because there are two missable confidant hangouts on 7/29 and 7/30 (the aquarium and the planetarium, respectively). You won't get the invite if you went to the Metaverse on the day the invite text gets sent. So if you want to see those hangouts, you have to complete Futaba's Palace the first two days it's available - you can't even put it off for a bit longer to avoid the whole sleeping for 3 weeks thing.
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Feb 22, 2021 20:29
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Now that there's a dedicated Persona thread I'd like to point out how crazy good the openings for the Persona 5 anime are. They write a lot of checks the anime can't cash but I'm glad the anime exists because both of these songs rock. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU_Z8RKo_Ow (full song here) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH23LPDKxtM (full song here) The first credits theme for the anime is really nice, too.
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Feb 22, 2021 21:01
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Squiggle posted:Great OP; Persona 5 Royal is my first Persona game, and it is thick. But I'm loving it. Will I miss anything from P5R if I picked up P4G to play after? The overworld you won't miss a thing, and the writing in P4G is at least as strong in P5. Moving via the Tokyo Tube Map is a lot more immersive than picking a region of your town and teleporting there IMO, but that's basically trivial. But just about everything in the Metaverse/the TV world is overwhelmingly better in P5R. Starting with the fact that every dungeon in the TV world is procedurally generated (using a different tileset), making it little more fun to explore than P5R's Mementos (which is admittedly overwhelmingly better than base P5's Mementos where all the floors used the same tileset). Oh, and there's no driving over shadows in the Monabus, which is inherently fun (and also P5R exclusive; the Ryuji autokill was reworked from something obnoxious and random in base P5 to something fun in P5R). But it's the combat that was massively iterated on with P5R combat being far crisper and cleaner than P4G's, and P5R's being deeper and more interesting than P5's. Persona 5 first fixed the UI from a scrolling menu to one button mapped to each action. It then cut about two seconds off each spell by having the characters pull their animation and call "Persona" when you go into the spells menu rather than after you pick the spell. And that two seconds per attack adds up to a lot of irritation as your time is wasted by watching Chie spin-kick for the hundredth time. And then there were the mechanical changes. Persona 5 added both Technicals and Baton Passes/Sweeps, and P5R strongly iterated on them making them really meaningful for effectiveness. (The big problem with baton passes in base P5 is that you can't baton pass with a team mate unless you have Rank 2 with them - which of course the team newbie doesn't until after you've done their dungeon, and the shadows are in general vulnerable to the newbie's powers). Which means that P4G's tactics are mostly about saving your SP for the bosses and buff/debuff cycles. Oh, and Showtimes are a new thing for P5R, linking characters.
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Feb 23, 2021 00:59
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Honestly I preferred the characters in p4 to p5 Except Yosuke, gently caress Yosuke
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Feb 23, 2021 01:06
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Ostentatious posted:Honestly I preferred the characters in p4 to p5 I think a lot of people agree with this. Personally I think I like the P5 cast better, but only by a slim margin. They're both fantastic casts. (also gently caress Yosuke)
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Feb 23, 2021 01:46
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Persona thread should rep Persona mods. Yosuke Romance Mod In case anyone missed it last time around Christmas in the MegaTen thread. I'd be more interested in trying it if I could also get the gameplay mod to work but I couldn't so that sucks.
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Feb 23, 2021 01:54
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Wasn’t Yosuke originally written to be a gay romance option? It at least puts some of the gay panic poo poo into context, like just the insecurity surrounding it.
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Feb 23, 2021 01:56
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The evidence that all of this pointed to an actual romance never really panned out for me tbh. The lines all seem like they're from separate unrelated scenes.
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Feb 23, 2021 02:28
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I don't think we'll ever know for certain, all that's been dug up is a couple dozen lines at most.
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Feb 23, 2021 02:37
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Considering Atlus’s track record with LGBTQ characters I don’t think I could trust them to handle a Gay relationship. At least now. Maybe they can have a change of heart and write some good LGBTQ characters for Persona 6! I mean, FF7 Remake took the Honey Bee scene which was originally a transgender/cross dress gag and turned it into a really amazing dance/music number and genuinely emotionally up-lifting scene about breaking gender norms.
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Feb 23, 2021 02:45
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They did Fine with Jun and Tatsuya if you went that route, the problem is Hashino not the franchise
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Feb 23, 2021 02:47
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Playing P5R for the first time after beating P5 back in 2017. They fixed the "he's a scum" line so imho it can only get better from here. Also re: LGBTQ characters, if you can't be gay in P6 I will be very disappointed. My small rebellion is picking all the non-horny dialog options in P5R. e: also I generally like all the P5R characters but Morgana is a huge creep from the word go with Ann and I don't care for it. I can't tell if the game wants me to think he's a creep or just wants me to think "haha he's so in love, that's cute" Badger of Basra fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Feb 23, 2021 |
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Feb 23, 2021 03:12
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Nintendo managed to make a main character a gay option in 2019 (Edelgard) and if that can happen who loving knows with Atlus but I wouldn’t bet on it
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Feb 23, 2021 03:26
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Badger of Basra posted:e: also I generally like all the P5R characters but Morgana is a huge creep from the word go with Ann and I don't care for it. I can't tell if the game wants me to think he's a creep or just wants me to think "haha he's so in love, that's cute" He's not that big of a creep? He's annoying sure but he never pervs out. But maybe I'm just comparing him with P4's Teddie, who is so much worse that Morgana is not even in the same scale.
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Feb 23, 2021 03:30
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Ostentatious posted:Honestly I preferred the characters in p4 to p5 I found Chie and Yukiko tremendously boring. Teddie also sucked.
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Feb 23, 2021 03:44
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I think for me the boringness of Chie and Yukiko is offset by how much Rise, Kanji and especially Naoto resonated with me. It also helps that I was in high school when I played it.
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Feb 23, 2021 03:53
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Morgana trades being a perv for being huge piece of poo poo to half the team (but mostly Ryuji.)
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Feb 23, 2021 03:55
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Harrow posted:A couple special "one day only" things in P5R that are worth mentioning to anyone starting: What's this about traits? I've clear P5, but despite buying P5R on release, I've not touched it yet.
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Feb 23, 2021 03:58
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I haven't played much of Royal yet either, but from what I understand they added a passive ability to each Persona in Royal, this is above and beyond the eight skill slots. These abilities are stuff like "Ice spells cost less SP" or something like that.
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Feb 23, 2021 04:00
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Solaris 2.0 posted:I mean, FF7 Remake took the Honey Bee scene which was originally a transgender/cross dress gag and turned it into a really amazing dance/music number and genuinely emotionally up-lifting scene about breaking gender norms. It was... 
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Feb 23, 2021 04:01
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Funky Valentine posted:Morgana trades being a perv for being huge piece of poo poo to half the team (but mostly Ryuji.) Morgana radiates intense creepy simp energy I mean so does Teddie, I’m noticing a trend
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Feb 23, 2021 04:11
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tithin posted:What's this about traits? Every persona now has an extra passive skill called a trait and some of them are pretty cool. They can be passed on with fusion, too. Some of them are small or situational (like Foul Odor, which makes it easier to land a status ailment after a baton pass), others are pretty huge (like one that lets you use ambush-only skills any time). Party member traits tend to be about synergy and providing a passive benefit to the team. Everyone's healing spells are stronger when Morgana's on the team, Makoto makes it easier to land elemental status effects for everyone, Ann sometimes lowers SP costs for everyone, Ryuji has a chance to boost someone's physical attack damage, etc. That's what makes Ryuji and Yusuke an insanely good combo. Give them both Charge (Ryuji naturally from leveling, and Yusuke from the jazz club) and now you have a physical bulldozer team.
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Feb 23, 2021 04:16
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Badger of Basra posted:e: also I generally like all the P5R characters but Morgana is a huge creep from the word go with Ann and I don't care for it. I can't tell if the game wants me to think he's a creep or just wants me to think "haha he's so in love, that's cute" It always felt like "haha he's so in love, that's cute" to me, but I think the dub/localization makes him come off a little creepy.
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Feb 23, 2021 04:20
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Funky Valentine posted:Morgana trades being a perv for being huge piece of poo poo to half the team (but mostly Ryuji.) Morgana is a huge perv and an rear end in a top hat ...but he’s also a talking cat that cuddles with you at night so that’s his saving grace. I’ll reserve judgment on Teddy until I can play P4 but so far I haven’t heard anyone say anything positive about him. *edit* I’m also playing with Japanese voices so maybe that’s why Morgana seems less creepy?
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Feb 23, 2021 04:21
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Christ, the vanilla release of P5 genuinely was Persona 5 Alpha, wasn't it.
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Feb 23, 2021 04:22
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Teddy looks drat fine in his Alice cosplay.
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Feb 23, 2021 04:23
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RillAkBea posted:It always felt like "haha he's so in love, that's cute" to me, but I think the dub/localization makes him come off a little creepy. Yeah, I think it's supposed to come off as Morgana just being smitten. I think it mostly works but also I'm comparing him to Yosuke, the previous Magician arcana character, who is a huge perv.
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Feb 23, 2021 04:24
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Forgot it takes 4 whole days to start the fortune confidant in P5 and I’m ragin’ mad about it!
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Feb 23, 2021 04:35
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Funky Valentine posted:Teddy looks drat fine in his Alice cosplay. Absolutely. I tended to alternate costumes for everyone else but in my last run I kept Teddie as Alice pretty much all game, even for the final boss.
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Feb 23, 2021 05:06
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Morgana is annoying but Teddy is an actual sex pest so Morgana wins
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Feb 23, 2021 05:07
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 Anybody complaining about Morgana, remember that this is what we coulda got, we dodged a bullet.
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Feb 23, 2021 05:17
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Morgana is a cat and has the personality of a cat.
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Feb 23, 2021 05:51
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So would everyone say Teddie is un-bear-able?
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Feb 23, 2021 05:55
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Morgana has the KITTY factor and no squeaky feet so I never had any objections to his presence. BONAFIDE. MONAFIED.
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Feb 23, 2021 06:01
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Yeah consider me on Team Mona. There actually aren't any P5 characters I dislike, come to think of it. Even the villains excel in the role. Perhaps the Devil confidant but maybe that's by comparison to every other confidant.
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Feb 23, 2021 06:05
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