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THE MARVELOUS DOJO DOG HAS BEEN FOUND https://twitter.com/chigusa8888/status/1364024843272740869 "Thank you to everyone who has spread the word, retweeted and commented so warmly It's been 10 days since our dog ran away. We have just received the news that Bibi has been rescued. Thank you to all the volunteers who helped us find Bibi, to those who came from other prefectures to search for him, and to those who spread the word!"
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Numero6 posted:https://twitter.com/ddtpro_eng/status/1363323239796117506 im gonna need to know more about the I'M CHICKEN shirt
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Feb 23, 2021 03:13
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Stardom just announced that the Budokan show will be available via PPV globally! However: in reality it isn't. They are using Pia which is a Japanese ticket selling website: in order to sign up to Pia you require a Japanese phone number and unlike a lot of these things that ask for one they check it so you can't just, say, put the number of the British embassy in or whatever people do. Even ignoring that its a complicated process: it asks for your name in Katakana which is easy if you know Google Translate and what its asking for but a lot of people will just get an error and not have a fuckin clue what they are doing wrong; I've heard there are other things as well. So I guess it'd be better to say that its available internationally; for those with a Japanese phone number that can verify that they have a Japanese phone number which isn't anything like the same thing, really. Even if it is available through some hidden extra link I can't find (certainly nothing in English; none of the translated Japanese indicates anything either) its not exactly an easy process so just being like "hey you can buy internationally!!!" is terrible because your fans that want to buy the show might waste a long time trying to buy it but failing because you have either told them they can do something they can't or you expect them to muddle through some obtuse process to buy your show. Marvelous - not a big promotion, not a promotion with a large international fanbase - have a set of graphics that they'll tweet on their English account when a show in coming up that are designed to help people through the process and that's with a site that's simpler than Pia would be even if it worked. Even if the show can be bought on Pia without that phone number its up to them to communicate how; not for people to try and figure it out by themselves. The whole thing is embarrassing for them.
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lol what the gently caress, i'm just gonna watch it through an TVIP service.
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They have good funding behind them so why can't they make this a bit more accessible for international fans?
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TV Zombie posted:They have good funding behind them so why can't they make this a bit more accessible for international fans?
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At least DDT made theirs in simple enough Japanese that google translate could get you through it
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TJPW rightfully overtaking Stardom as the most popular joshi promotion in the west is happening and a big part of that can be put down to Stardom repeated shooting themselves in the foot
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I am invested in every single character TJPW puts out there. All of them. It's amazing. THEY HAVE A BEE. AND A CLOWN. I am invested in Stardom's clown too, to be fair
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:TJPW rightfully overtaking Stardom as the most popular joshi promotion in the west is happening and a big part of that can be put down to Stardom repeated shooting themselves in the foot When TJPW shirts first popped up on PWT, I asked Haku which colors were associated with which wrestler. At the time, lime green was only Pom, Haku tagged her in the tweet and Pom sent me a tweet in English thanking me for supporting her. Lots of the TJPW girls are learning English because they want to interact with the fans and they were very excited about coming back to America in 2020 for the "Coming to America" show to the point they were cutting promos in English and taking classes in their free time. TJPW and ChocoPro are the two most accessible promotions for people outside of Japan, they both go out of their way to thank fans
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Feb 23, 2021 04:55
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At this point if I had to choose between the two I'd drop my NJPW world sub in favor of Wrestle Universe.
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Feb 23, 2021 04:56
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TV Zombie posted:They have good funding behind them so why can't they make this a bit more accessible for international fans? because this isn't trying to be more accessible for international fans. these pia streams have existed since last year (yokohama, sendai, osaka edion 1) for this price. it's really trying to get people who normally would be going to the shows outside of covid to still pay money the would have for tickets and watch the shows. all that sonny (he's still there but there are some others in stardom doing the tech work these days with him) did was post the pia link for this on the english account when they didn't before. it's both literally and figuratively doing the least possible for international expansion. "hey tweet out the pia link let the people outside of japan know about this". everyone's got their own personal value judgments to make with if shows are worth it or not, but 4400 yen is the most expensive japanese ippv i've seen since the start of the ustream era for a show that will exist as a vod only until the weekend. it's really not for international fans, it's just seeing if international fans will pay the price for something that's for your native fanbase.
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I'm not going to blame Stardom wrestlers for not being like that: they've had a few cases of wrestlers being harassed pretty seriously on social media (Arisa Hoshiki was one of the big ones; Giulia got some poo poo as well and there are others) and I suspect they might have been told to be more distant for that reason. Fundamentally its not their job: its the job of the promotion that they've done a terrible job of handling that stuff recently. Here's the thing: if you don't change their actions but simply the way that they communicate on twitter I think it improves a lot. DDT English Update is the obvious example to use: it translates a lot more stuff (mainly the backstage post-match promos; some big tweets as well) and they have a bit more character which helps: but one of the main things is when something comes up that is Japanese only they'll mention it and give a reason and that's all you need sometimes. A lot of problems can be fixed with simply better communication - although live streamed shows would also fix a lot of the same issues to be frank.
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RealFoxy posted:Probably doesn't hurt that Haku (Runs DDT/TJPW English Update) and most of the TJPW girls are very easy to talk to on Twitter, while Sonny was throwing constant temper tantrums or raging at people on Twitter and Reddit last time I was regularly watching Stardom (This would've been pre Io signing by a couple years and I'm not even sure if Sonny still works for them) The difference between Hakusan and Sonny is night and day, yeah, and it's baffling to me that Bushiroad haven't hired a professional social media person/translator to replace him. My favourite Sonny moment was when he managed to alienate people on Reddit so much that he had to pretend that he was a different person and that the "original" official Stardom account user had been fired.
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:The difference between Hakusan and Sonny is night and day, yeah, and it's baffling to me that Bushiroad haven't hired a professional social media person/translator to replace him. My favourite Sonny moment was when he managed to alienate people on Reddit so much that he had to pretend that he was a different person and that the "original" official Stardom account user had been fired.
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Feb 23, 2021 06:55
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I think internally Stardom has put all their effort into focusing on being the #1 Joshi promotion in the Japanese market and put the western market on the backburner which makes sense to me as we're not the ones that are gonna be attending their shows which drives most of the revenue. They could be better certainly. My dislike for TJPW aside, I think they've done a great job balancing trying to be more accessible to the western audience while still remembering that they're a japanese company based in japan. I have no idea what Emi's doing in Chocopro land though.
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Gatoh Move is a boutique-rear end indie promotion, so they do some unorthodox things to get their name out there.
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:The difference between Hakusan and Sonny is night and day, yeah, and it's baffling to me that Bushiroad haven't hired a professional social media person/translator to replace him. My favourite Sonny moment was when he managed to alienate people on Reddit so much that he had to pretend that he was a different person and that the "original" official Stardom account user had been fired. On the other hand, his inability to understand Sumire Natsu's colloquial Japanese also gave us "You don't crap about me, lady" so, it;s impossible to say if hes bad or not, Stall_19 posted:I think internally Stardom has put all their effort into focusing on being the #1 Joshi promotion in the Japanese market and put the western market on the backburner which makes sense to me as we're not the ones that are gonna be attending their shows which drives most of the revenue. Yeah, it's interesting, because Stardom has been pretty up front about how foreign subscriptions make up the vast majority of Stardom World users... But at the same time, that same foreign audience really overestimates how much of Stardom's bottom line they make up, compared to local fans who go to multiple shows a month and drop enough money to cover a year's subscription to Stardom World at each one. That said, I definitely get the frustration with stuff like, "here's how you can watch the PPV (except you can't)." It reminds me of how Marvelous' English account just translates their tweets with a couple days' lag, so you occasionally get English tweets about "upcoming" shows that ended a couple hours before the tweet went up, lol. Johnny Landmine fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Feb 23, 2021 |
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The Marvelous account must prioritise translating Tomoko Watanabe tweets about her lazy husband.
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Stall_19 posted:I think internally Stardom has put all their effort into focusing on being the #1 Joshi promotion in the Japanese market and put the western market on the backburner which makes sense to me as we're not the ones that are gonna be attending their shows which drives most of the revenue. They could be better certainly. My dislike for TJPW aside, I think they've done a great job balancing trying to be more accessible to the western audience while still remembering that they're a japanese company based in japan. I have no idea what Emi's doing in Chocopro land though. Rossi pressuring/encouraging his roster to do semi-nude photoshoots (And then proudly laying in bed with his top talent while they're nude) Stardom's really poor treatment for a long time of foreign acts, including Kris who was doing most of the photography and then just got fired. The horribly toxic environment that lead to the Act Yasukawa/Yoshiko match which Stardom management took NO effort into trying to stop which lead to Kyoko Kimura shoot ending the match via forfeit Extending to putting their under 18 talent into making similar semi-nude and softcore photoshoots An English affiliate/office worker being toxic as hell in social media Little to marginal attempts at making the product be accessible to international fans I'll admit to not watching Stardom regularly for a long time, I still like some Rubber Mayu, Weird Tam, and Gulia matches but Stardom in the 10's felt like it was run by a Japanese Russo/McMahon hybrid.
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https://twitter.com/senjo2006/status/1364104889043886086?s=19 Hibiki invaded a Sendai Girls show to yell her manifesto and insult people over her megaphone despite apologising for doing it at Marvelous. I'm not sure where they're going with this story but I'm enjoying it
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RealFoxy posted:There's no argument that Stardom has been at the top of Joshi for several years but there's a lot of things that would turn most people off like + That weird fan event where all the talent were in their pajamas. Hopefully some of this should be rectified under Bushiroad's management. Though I haven't heard bad experiences by foreign acts in awhile so hopefully they've gotten better at that.
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:https://twitter.com/senjo2006/status/1364104889043886086?s=19 What is her manifesto? This thread suggests it's people like each other too much? But also Joshi is too burdened by its past? https://twitter.com/1222Dragonmoon/status/1350840073030254592
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I had hope for Stardom under Bushiroad and it seemed that Hana Kimura in particular was doing a good job at pushing them to deal with some of the more toxic elements (e.g. getting them to introduce a code of conduct for fans at events, reaching out to female fans more, getting them to cancel a show the roster did not want to do when covid was getting bad the first time) along with some measures Bushiroad themselves were taken to clean up the image like making that one fan wear a shirt (and deodorant lmao). All that kinda went out the window after Hana died though. The way they treated Kyoko was lovely, but not only that you saw more weird fan service stuff slipping back in like the Giulia/Tam bikini fight.
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:I had hope for Stardom under Bushiroad and it seemed that Hana Kimura in particular was doing a good job at pushing them to deal with some of the more toxic elements (e.g. getting them to introduce a code of conduct for fans at events, reaching out to female fans more, getting them to cancel a show the roster did not want to do when covid was getting bad the first time) along with some measures Bushiroad themselves were taken to clean up the image like making that one fan wear a shirt (and deodorant lmao). Stardom is the only major promotion that seems like they're run by Vince McMahon. Stall_19 posted:+ That weird fan event where all the talent were in their pajamas. 
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RealFoxy posted:I think Stardom fans would appreciate seeing Kris and Kagetsu again after being pushed out for the sin of liking women. Disclaimer that I promise I'm not trying to be dismissive or cape for Stardom (which I don't even follow anymore) in asking this - I ask out of genuine curiosity, because this is a fairly big accusation that I haven't heard before: Is this speculation, or is it coming from some source? Did Kris say something to this effect? Historically and culturally, I'm under the impression that it would be fairly difficult for any joshi promotion to push out all of their lesbian wrestlers. Just wondering, because Kagetsu's retirement didn't seem particularly abrupt to me; she'd already planned to retire a few years before, but Io convinced her to stay, and she spent pretty much the entire time between then and her actual retirement wrestling with some back/neck injury or another. On the other hand, without writing fanfiction about actual people, I don't think it's much of a coincidence that she and Hazuki retired so closely to each other - whether the reason for their leaving Stardom had anything to do with their relationship or not. Johnny Landmine fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Feb 23, 2021 |
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Johnny Landmine posted:Disclaimer that I promise I'm not trying to be dismissive or cape for Stardom (which I don't even follow anymore) in asking this - I ask out of genuine curiosity, because this is a fairly big accusation that I haven't heard before: Is this speculation, or is it coming from some source? Did Kris say something to this effect? Historically and culturally, I'm under the impression that it would be fairly difficult for any joshi promotion to push out all of their lesbian wrestlers.
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https://twitter.com/tde_gif/status/1364068670415069187 wrestling rocks
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Amazing moves. Almost... aristocratic.
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Lamuella posted:Amazing moves. Almost... aristocratic. Maybe she has some French blood in her somewhere 
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but now no international phone or address required apparently? https://twitter.com/we_are_stardom/status/1364077069873803267
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RealFoxy posted:I genuinely think that Rossi and other Stardom management need the boot before Stardom becomes truly international. If Kairi escapes the WWE vortex she'd be a great figurehead for Stardom 2021, and I think Stardom fans would appreciate seeing Kris and Kagetsu again after being pushed out for the sin of liking women. Isn't Kris retired due to concussion issues or something?
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Kris has a lot of concussions, and I also think she'd like to live in a country that recognizes her marriage I'm happy for Kris and her 7' tall wife
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The stuff about Kagetsu is 100% speculation and exactly how much its grounded in fact no one knows. What is known is that she was thinking about retirement years ago; Io Shirai convinced her to sign with Stardom instead and after Io left it looks like she was the number two in the promotion: head trainer, clearly heavily involved in the booking (apparently them going all-in on factions was something that she heavily pushed for and they've stuck with it since, well, it works and makes them money on merch: Bea getting that World Title run also strikes me as something she'd have heavily pushed for) and perhaps she saw the Bushiroad deal and the possible changes they wanted to implement (which may well have involved replacing her as Head Trainer, even if only on paper) as a chance to leave. Hazuki's retirement seems to have been a lot more negative (perhaps something to do with her family being involved with some not very nice stuff but again that's only speculation) and that may well have also played a role: but it doesn't seem like they forced Kagetsu out the door and they gave her a big farewell. If Kagetsu wanted to wrestle again: I think she'd have shown up somewhere else and I don't think she'd have had that big retirement run. There are promotions that seem to be very OK with LGBTQ people (I don't think there are any openly gay Joshi wrestlers but that might be a privacy thing as much as anything else and there are some rumours about people: Marvelous had zero issue booking Asuka and Nyla Rose and Asuka works a lot of places; plus Kagetsu was a big name and absolutely would draw fans to your shows which would cause some people to overlook any reservations they may have. She wrestled for almost twelve years; had a very complete career and was hurting by the end: would not surprise me if she's feeling fine with what she did and wants to move on to something else. You can never rule out a surprise return in the future but I'm assuming that's her.
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bushiroad makes a ton of yuri media which kidani has explicitly endorsed, and the longest-tenured actor in the bushiroad voice acting agency organizes LGBT events for creatives in anime that have drawn other key people from the company. pretty sure they've also said one of their goals with the stardom purchase is to attract more female fans. it would be pretty unusual if they were less accepting of the women being gay than the company was when it was independent
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Now I miss Kris Wolf. I hope she's enjoying meat somewhere. 
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Saki Akai does indeed rule. Also if you check out her social media you quickly find out what a tremendous dork she is out of character
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https://twitter.com/zacyuki/status/1364263110148726785 Who is doing this to Kamiyu and how do I make them stop?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ_e02dH21s Emi spends an hour talking about how great Yuka is
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