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that's what I would have thought, but seeing various harbor freight goods range from "the worst by some margin" to "outperforming several name brands" on project farm made me want to ask
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um excuse me posted:I'd much rather buy a brand name and buy knock off batteries than even consider HF stuff if battery price is your main concern. HF is progressively getting better but I think something like Milwaukee vs HF is no contest. this is true, but arent they usually spot welded together? that would be difficult to DIY also, do the batteries have charge management that tracks the degredation of the cells?
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Like changing the battery or replacing a screen in a cellphone, there is a tutorial for everything. Raluek posted:also, do the batteries have charge management that tracks the degredation of the cells? Not that I know of? I think the smartest a tool battery gets is monitoring for overheating and cell voltage balancing. um excuse me fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Feb 22, 2021 |
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Feb 22, 2021 13:45
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ryanrs posted:What Milwaukee M18 1/2" impact wrench should I buy for car stuff? Like the kind of car stuff where you definitely want an impact wrench. This one: https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Power-Tools/Fastening/Impact-Wrenches/2767-20 If it doesn't bust axle nuts and suspension poo poo, then you need a torch. Make sure to get some appropriate sockets.
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wesleywillis posted:This one: This is definitely the right answer. It’s a little more expensive but if you’re going to spend a couple hundred dollars on an impact wrench why not spend a little more and be sure you got one that will take everything off? I have tekton impact sockets that seem fine and then the Astro nano sockets that are a delight.
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OMGVBFLOL posted:that's what I would have thought, but seeing various harbor freight goods range from "the worst by some margin" to "outperforming several name brands" on project farm made me want to ask The batteries are cheap, but they're also the lowest capacity batteries on the market. I don't think I've seen any of their tools come with more than a single-parallel 1.5-2.0 Ah battery roughly equivalent to other brands compact packs. I've noticed a difference between compact and larger packs on my higher draw Milwaukee tools. Also, HF has at least four different "brands" with 18-20V packs. Are any of these compatible with each other or do they really have this much diversity for no good reason? If you only want one or two tools HF lithium tools might be okay. If you want to be able to use the same battery in an impact gun, a reciprocating saw, and a string trimmer, you should go for one of the larger brands where you can trust them not to randomly make tools incompatible with batteries.
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Feb 22, 2021 15:17
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That's the rub with the HF stuff. Notwithstanding the opinion of how well they could/can perform, just the fact they have different lines and who knows how long they will stick with them before coming out with another incompatible line.
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wesleywillis posted:This one: Thank you!
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ryanrs posted:What Milwaukee M18 1/2" impact wrench should I buy for car stuff? Like the kind of car stuff where you definitely want an impact wrench. wesleywillis posted:This one: I used to carry a 2763-20, which had less but enough power, until I broke it. If you could find a refurb of that, that'd do, too.
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ryanrs posted:Thank you! No problem. We tfr goons gotta stick together  . If you don't have them already, get some bigger batteries. My experience is that the 2ah batteries are good for running drills and the 1/4" hex drive impacts and such like that, but anything that has to put out high speed or some serious force like this impact, will kill a small battery in no time flat. Even freshly charged. Thats just my experience.
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I only have the HO/HD 12 which is probably way too big for an impact. I'll have a HO XC 8 at work I can try out for weight and balance. What battery do you recommend?
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I believe the standard recommendation is that you'll get full power from any 5ah or above battery. The one exception to this seems to be the 4.0XC, which is an older design but works fine. edit: Yep. You need a 2P battery to get full power, 5ah and above are always 2P. Krakkles fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Feb 22, 2021 |
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ryanrs posted:I only have the HO/HD 12 which is probably way too big for an impact. I'll have a HO XC 8 at work I can try out for weight and balance.  you've got the giant 12ah battery? That'd be fine. Just maybe huge and heavy, but you'd probably be able to take the whole van apart and put it back together in one charge.
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Yeah, some of my trips require a chainsaw. Well, maybe not "require", but I'll never go back to a bow saw.
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The XC 8.0 with the larger cells in a 2P configuration really is a nice sweet spot of a battery pack. I can't tell the difference in performance between it and my older 9.0 3P pack, but the 8.0 was a lot cheaper. The 12 seems like it'd be heavier than I want in all but the highest-draw tools. I don't mind having to swap between my 8.0 and 9.0 once while leafblowing my yard, and that only happens if I've got a lot of poo poo to deal with that isn't moving easily. I wonder if those "high demand" CP packs might be a good pairing with the impact, too - my 1P compact batteries are way-old 1.5 or 2.0 packs, so that could be as much of an issue as the fact that they're only 1P.
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IOwnCalculus posted:The batteries are cheap, but they're also the lowest capacity batteries on the market. I don't think I've seen any of their tools come with more than a single-parallel 1.5-2.0 Ah battery roughly equivalent to other brands compact packs. I've noticed a difference between compact and larger packs on my higher draw Milwaukee tools. I remember seeing a video where they put a HF battery on a load and it had less than half its rated capacity. As far as battery size I found the Milwaukee heatgun needs at least the 9.0 to not completely suck if its remotely cold outside, everything else I've used has worked fine on the 5 A/hr batteries but I haven't tried the chainsaw with it.
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wesleywillis posted:This one: Gonna go against the grain here and recommend the mid-torque version of this. It's lighter, smaller, easier to manouver in tight spaces, and yet 600ft-lbs, which has managed everything I've thrown at it (I'm in the salt belt, and axle nuts / suspension stuff hasn't been an issue). If you've already got an m12 stubby it might make more sense to grab the giant one, but the big one is gigantic and heavy.
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It’s definitely not light, but “gigantic and heavy” is a stretch. If I only bought one of my Milwaukee tools ever, it would be that impact gun. 600lb-ft is great but 1400 is life changing.
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If you’re swinging it around all day at work, that big-rear end impact is definitely going to wear on you. I’ll be picking up a mid-torque to round out my set. I have a 3/8 compact, m12 stubby and M18 monster impact.
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Feb 24, 2021 05:10
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I started with the Mid Torque and impact driver, and expanded into M12 for the Stubby, ratchet, and cheap screwdriver later. If I attempt a job (probably crank bolt or axles) that the Mid tq can't handle, I'll buy the bigger one for that job. I also want one of the hydraulic impact drivers, but don't really need it.
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I have the mid torque and definitely like how it's pretty light and compact. And it's cracked some axle nuts off, eventually. I want the big one too though.
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I've had like 3 instances this week where I wish I had a power ratchet. I think I'm just going to pull the trigger on the makita - you fuckers are really making me want to spend some bucks.
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Feb 24, 2021 06:40
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Electric ratchets are life changing. I have 1/4 and 3/8 longneck ones for most things, and a right angle screw gun for light fasteners. I basically never touch a regular ratchet if I can avoid it.
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Which ratcheting wrench brand is good? I want ones that look like a normal combo wrench (one end open, shallow angle on the box end), with a direction switch (not flip the wrench over). I bought a set but just realized the ratchet is 6 sided, not 12. This is stupid because it's that much harder to get them on the bolt and the mechanism can't take huge torque anyway. Years ago I had a set I liked by Crescent (I think), but I dunno if they're still good. Some of their stuff is pretty variable.
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ryanrs posted:Which ratcheting wrench brand is good? I want ones that look like a normal combo wrench (one end open, shallow angle on the box end), with a direction switch (not flip the wrench over). I've got some Gearwrench ones that are fine. I don't have many others to compare them to but if you want ones with levers to change direction the keyword is Reversible it seems. https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=reversible+ratcheting+wrench
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I have a set of the reversible gearwrench ones, and they're great. I use them all the time. I also used to have one snap-on 14mm reversible, and it was good too, but I'm not sure it's better enough to justify its price premium for a home-gamer. I'd just keep an eye out for sales on the gearwrench, if I were you.
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I picked up a set of gearwrench with the flexible ratcheting head years ago and I'm glad I got the flex end instead of the reversible just for the tight spots, they have been working great for years.
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I have Snap-On, Gearwrench, Wera, and Craftsman. Wera are the nicest, Gearwrench are the best cost:value (and still very nice). Snap-On is nicer than Gearwrench but I wouldn't pay the premium. Craftsman (at least the ones I got) are traaaash. Like they're substantially bigger than any of the others, so they never fit anywhere.
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My milwaukee m18 mid impact was not able to break loose the driveshaft yoke bolts on my rear end. The high torque barely made a sound and they were out.
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Krakkles posted:I have Snap-On, Gearwrench, Wera, and Craftsman. Those Wera ones are my special occasion wrenches lol. I only have four of them, and I often forget about them. The nut holding feature though is fantastic when you need it.
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StormDrain posted:Those Wera ones are my special occasion wrenches lol. I only have four of them, and I often forget about them. The nut holding feature though is fantastic when you need it. I'll definitely buy more at some point, but they're just so. drat. expensive. Anyone got recommendations on comfortable eye protection (general purpose, grinding, that kind of stuff)? I've got some old 3M glasses/goggles that never really felt right, I've got the wrap-around things from HF, don't like anything I've found. Potential problem: I have a large head. Like the HF ones don't even vaguely fit right. Something comfortable, on the larger side, and effective protection would be awesome. Cost isn't no object, but I'd spend money to protect my eyes and also value comfort.
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Yes, but mine are prescription so may not apply to you. https://rx-safety.com/
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Safety glasses are such a big thing, it's like talking about oil. Personally, I am very rough on my glasses so I just get the cheapest brand name ones (3M, Honeywell, etc) and replace them as needed. Since I sell them I can get whatever I want as factory samples, but I still stick with cheap. Antifog is a huge thing now too since COVID so be sure yours are. If you like a wrap around style and want a specific bang/buck recommendations, take a look at the Honeywell/Uvex Genesis series. I find them comfortable and good quality while not being stupid expensive. I personally use the S3200x quite often.
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That makes sense. I know somebody who swears by Fram filters, which are otherwise pretty widely derided, but he's also the single person who knows the most about cars in general that I know. Checking out the HW/Uvex Genesis, thank you. And Uthor! No prescriptions required yet, but appreciate it anyway. Krakkles fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Feb 24, 2021 |
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I like the 3m ones that have a gasket around the edge — helps keep stuff out without being quite as annoying to wear as full on goggles. These ones: https://www.zoro.com/3m-safety-glas...BYaAtl_EALw_wcB I'm a big head haver and they fit well enough.
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I really wish safety glasses above like $15 came with a darn case.
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powderific posted:I like the 3m ones that have a gasket around the edge — helps keep stuff out without being quite as annoying to wear as full on goggles. These ones: https://www.zoro.com/3m-safety-glas...BYaAtl_EALw_wcB Luckily I scratch the gently caress out of them before that happens lol
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Perhaps a face shield would work in conjunction with some cheap safety glasses. Lately, I've been using an auto dark welding mask turned to the "grind" setting.
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I got old gas in my eye once working under a car, that was unpleasant enough where I bought a set of goggles just for working under cars. Helps with fluids and rust flakes and such that can flow/blow around the edge of safety glasses when you're in odd positions. https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DPG82-11-DPG82-11CTR-Concealer-Anti-Fog/dp/B01A12J3GI/
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boxen posted:I got old gas in my eye once working under a car, that was unpleasant enough where I bought a set of goggles just for working under cars. Helps with fluids and rust flakes and such that can flow/blow around the edge of safety glasses when you're in odd positions. I'm still learning not to lean forward and blow away sawdust in my new found woodworking habit.
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