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I would definitely rank BBSFM above DDD, mostly because abusing the mechanics to break the game over your knee rules. I’m not sure if I like it better than KH:FM but I would certainly rank it above KHIII. Re:Chain is under KHIII for sure. Re:coded is pretty fun but still kinda sucks, and I love Days as everyone knows but it’s easily the least good game in the series. KHIIFM is still king. So I guess my ranking would be: KHIIFM KH:FM BBSFM KHIII Dreamu Dropu Distansu 0.2 ~Final Chapter Prologue~ Re:Chain Re:coded 358/2 Days Union-X/Dark Road???
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I will say the plot of UX is interesting when it’s not doing the Disney stuff (which basically amounts to your character watching the movie’s plot play out while you occasionally contribute by defeating Heartless and the like) but gameplay wise it’s kind of dull (and Dark Road even more so in that regard). Once the story’s finally finished it could be nice to have a remake that refines the gameplay a bit and cuts out a lot of the fluff though. Also UX has some neat new Heartless designs that I’d like to see show up in a proper game one day.
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Feb 12, 2021 20:19
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I am glad that EGS finally has another Japanese exclusive to call their own (Aside from Shenmue). Take that Steam!
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Feb 12, 2021 20:44
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GBA CoM is much better than Re:Chain.
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Feb 12, 2021 20:47
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I enjoyed both Kingom Hearts 1 and 2 when I played them on the PS2 and good lord did the naming/numbering scheme become incomprehensible past that. Presumably I would want the first bundle which has KH 1+2 Final Mix, which is titled "KINGDOM HEARTS HD 1.5 + 2.5 ReMIX" for some reason. Absolutely no idea what Kingdom Hearts 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue is and I heard 3 was underwhelming so I'll probably stick with the classics.
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Feb 12, 2021 21:04
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If you're going to compared KH2FM to KH3 you need to include Re:Mind
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gyrobot posted:I am glad that EGS finally has another Japanese exclusive to call their own (Aside from Shenmue). Take that Steam! This is already on steam lol Also just wanted to say fuckkkkkk Dream Drop Distance. God I hated that on 3ds
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:I enjoyed both Kingom Hearts 1 and 2 when I played them on the PS2 and good lord did the naming/numbering scheme become incomprehensible past that. Presumably I would want the first bundle which has KH 1+2 Final Mix, which is titled "KINGDOM HEARTS HD 1.5 + 2.5 ReMIX" for some reason. Absolutely no idea what Kingdom Hearts 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue is and I heard 3 was underwhelming so I'll probably stick with the classics. 1.5 has KH Final Mix, Re:Chain of Memories (takes place between KH & KHII) and a movie version of 358/2 Days (also takes place between KH & KHII) 2.5 has KHII Final Mix, Birth By Sleep Final Mix (essentially KH0, a prequel that takes place approximately ten years before KH) and a movie version of Re:coded (which takes place immediately following KHII) 2.8 is Dream Drop Distance (happens after KHII), 0.2 ~Final Chapter Prologue~ (takes place almost immediately after BBS) and a movie that shows a bunch of stuff that happened in the browser-based game Kingdom Hearts X[chi], which was sort of the precursor to KH Union-X, the mobile title. Kingdom Hearts III is the last entry in this story arc and is worth playing, especially with the updates and the DLC.
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Combat in DDD feels Very Bad and I don't understand how people can look past that in a Kingdom Hearts game
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it's better than average combat for the handheld games, which means it's better than average for the series on the whole. the system is broken and you just spam balloons but that's not a unique problem in this series also it has actual movement mechanics. they're kinda clunky but the fact that you're not stuck plodding along until the end of the game where you get glide is cool
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Feb 12, 2021 21:54
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combat in DDD is not improved much by ignoring the obviously broken commands
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Most of the people who I’ve heard complain about the combat in DDD didn’t ever use commands. Dream Eaters are kinda lovely though, you wanna level them up to get the good items/commands/abilities but then when you switch to another one you lose a bunch of good abilities. Also grinding poking/petting them loving sucks.
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It's true that keyblade combat is by far the worst offender in DDD - I don't think there's a single enemy attack in that game that doesn't have priority over your own basic attacks. The constant hitstun you sustain is absurd and has not been seen in a KH game before or since. Flowmotion is a neat idea but implementing it on a handheld was insane and it's not all that much more controllable on home consoles. That leaves commands which are often broken in the other direction, I guess balanced by the process of acquiring them being a bit of a chore. DDD's combat really doesn't have anything going for it at all, which is a shame because it is an otherwise particularly enjoyably bonkers game.
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DDD just felt like a more refined take on the command system from BBS. With characters that don't play as well as Aqua, but better than Ventus and WAY better than Terra. Also Balloons. Balloons good. I should probably add that I only ever played the console version. I would be a fool to play any Kingdom Hearts in hardware that came before the PS4.
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Same here, I imagine the 3DS DDD played a lot worse (I could probably say the same about the PSP BBS for that matter) but I personally never really had any problems with the console versions of either.
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DDD on the 3DS was cool, the reality shift moves and dream eater mini games were done on the touch screen. For Reality Shifts you would drop through the floor onto the bottom screen, it was a really cool use of the technology. Also petting your dream eaters used the camera’s AR function which was also cool. It actually controlled and played fine tbh the only issue was the frame rate, especially with the 3D turned on. I wanna say they made the enemies more tame in the console version. There was a lot of blocking in the 3DS version which I think was toned down on PS4? Anyway, the combat is decent. Way better than Days or Re:Chain.
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:DDD on the 3DS was cool, the reality shift moves and dream eater mini games were done on the touch screen. For Reality Shifts you would drop through the floor onto the bottom screen, it was a really cool use of the technology. Also petting your dream eaters used the camera’s AR function which was also cool. It actually controlled and played fine tbh the only issue was the frame rate, especially with the 3D turned on. Out of curiosity, was anything noteworthy added to the console remake?
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Larryb posted:Out of curiosity, was anything noteworthy added to the console remake? There were a few dream eaters added, the only one I can remember was based on Beat and it was like an elephant riding a skateboard or something. That’s really all they added. Oh I forgot, for that card battle game Flick Rush your cards were on the bottom screen and you would flick them to the top screen to use the attacks, hence the name.
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Beating the poo poo out of a mix of Anime and Disney Toons with a giant Key should always be the focus of KH combat imo edit: I'm surprised the Coachman from Pinocchio never made a boss appearance when he's so high up the list of Disney Villains who need an rear end kicking
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Guys remember when the evil step-mother and step-sisters were just straight up murdered by an Unversed? That was sweet. Also lmao at this tweet https://twitter.com/gummiblock/status/1360379765811732482?s=21
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Guys remember when the evil step-mother and step-sisters were just straight up murdered by an Unversed? That was sweet. 4 stars, missing Xigbar
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Feb 13, 2021 04:31
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Thats the canon book of prophecies.
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https://twitter.com/kingdomhearts/status/1364591161441095680?s=21 Everybody knows the true Kingdom Hearts experience is when Donald heals you immediately after you heal yourself while Goofy is knocked out in a corner somewhere.
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that's not entirely true. sometimes Goofy manages to get a hit in on Terra, triggering his counter attack early so he kills you while you're in the middle of a combo
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So I was able to get my cloud save for KH3 Re:Mind and just beat it last night and unlocked the limit cut episode. I'm around level 63, but reading online people are saying I should just grind to level 99 and get the ultima weapon lmao. Anyway I really enjoyed the DLC as well as the changes made to the combat. The ending moments really got to me on an emotional level too. Goddammit Nomura! Goddamn you to hell!!!
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Well maybe with a PC release somebody will mod the AI for Donald and Goofy so it’s not poo poo anymore.
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I feel like I grew to appreciate Donald at some point, but I forget when or why I do know that, without fail, he'd get kicked off any team in favor of the guest character in 1 and 2
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The REAL Goobusters posted:So I was able to get my cloud save for KH3 Re:Mind and just beat it last night and unlocked the limit cut episode. I'm around level 63, but reading online people are saying I should just grind to level 99 and get the ultima weapon lmao. You can kinda hop back and forth between the main game and limitcut iirc. I'd say most of the bosses are doable at your end of the game power even the first time around and for some of them going straight up level 99 off the bat is kind of an overkill. For the last three bosses going as powerful as you can is sound advice though.
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Burkion posted:I feel like I grew to appreciate Donald at some point, but I forget when or why Every once in a blue moon he will come in clutch with a heal at just the right time to bail you out from an imminent game over and they are almost enough to make you forget the 500 other game overs he could have prevented
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Fojar38 posted:Every once in a blue moon he will come in clutch with a heal at just the right time to bail you out from an imminent game over and they are almost enough to make you forget the 500 other game overs he could have prevented At least it’s better than in Chain of Memories where he will often straight up heal your enemies more often than not.
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https://twitter.com/kh_ux_na/status/1364866615934771211 ...huh. maybe i'll actually watch this nonsense somewhere now that it's winding down [Nomura grins and cues up the new nonsense]
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http://api.sp.kingdomhearts.com/information/detail/75152 May 30 UnionX turns into a cutscene viewer. September will have a complete dark road offline story mode
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MorningMoon posted:http://api.sp.kingdomhearts.com/information/detail/75152 Seems weird that they’re taking away the actual playable parts of UX (they could at least leave the Story Quests intact) yet keeping it for Dark Road which barely has gameplay to begin with. Though at the same time it also mentions keeping the various Keyblades in there so I’m not sure what to make of that. Like I’ve said before, it might be nice to get a 3D remake at some point that streamlines the game a bit. Larryb fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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Speaking of which, somebody’s apparently currently working on a remake of UX via a game creation tool for PS4 called Dreams: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yBkXdFR0eY8 They apparently put out a demo as well: https://twitter.com/TwilightProduc1/status/1359213541228748805 Larryb fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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Ever since beating KH3 Re:Mind I've been grinding to level 99, trying to get the keyblades I still need to get as well as buying Melody of Memory and watching so many theory videos on youtube. drat you Nomura. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HdPOwM94S8 This one is great
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Ever since beating KH3 Re:Mind I've been grinding to level 99, trying to get the keyblades I still need to get as well as buying Melody of Memory and watching so many theory videos on youtube. drat you Nomura. I've been going down the same rabbit hole. It seems that what a lot of people intensely dislike about KH is how opaque and vague things can be, how the series introduces four more mysteries before it has explained two previous ones, but the sense of mystery is actually what I enjoy about the series. And this sense of mystery is obviously the highest it's been in a long time now that the series is getting into a new "phase" and so many new plot elements are being introduced. FWIW I didn't follow KH at all from about 2010 to 2015, so I probably missed some of the worst years when it comes to "unnecessary" plot twists. I don't really care for the Xehanort and His Thirteen Selves plot at all, so maybe I wouldn't have cared if I had watched all that unfold "in real time", but the current puzzle pieces I really like. And maybe after we know why the Master of Masters is in Quadratum, who Yozora really is and what he really looks like, what the contents of the black box are etc. I won't care that much anymore, but right now the series could really go in so many different directions that I am really excited to see where it goes. I mean, the answer to all of the above questions will probably be that everything is a time loop and multiple versions of everyone exist in different places at different times so realistically it's dumb to be excited, but I am. Fabulous Knight fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Mar 9, 2021 |
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Since the mobile game is going cutscene only does that mean it's finished? And if so, is it relevant to the main story?
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Gologle posted:Since the mobile game is going cutscene only does that mean it's finished? And if so, is it relevant to the main story? The Keyblade Surfing fight and the ending of KH3 makes it insanley relevant to the main story Also Chirithy
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Gologle posted:Since the mobile game is going cutscene only does that mean it's finished? And if so, is it relevant to the main story? It's not finished quite yet, but will be within the next month or so. As for if it's relevant to the main story, as of the last hours of KH3, absolutely yes.
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Gologle posted:Since the mobile game is going cutscene only does that mean it's finished? And if so, is it relevant to the main story? Both mobile games are probably the most relevant things in the entire franchise in terms of story content
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