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Pope Urbane II posted:I wholeheartedly agree that someone should stop playing a game that is not enjoyable for them, and I agree that this game would be better if it had a business model, say, like warframe's. However, since he didn't have a whale account, it makes me think that the issue is not the business model. Maybe artifact RNG or something was unusually frustrating. I'm not sure how a more generous F2P model would actually address that, given that it generally increases grind. Anecdote: I played Warframe from the start of open beta through Update 14 and it went quickly from something I did with friends to something I played almost religiously as a compulsive numbers-go-up thing specifically because their model is less money and more time-reliant. It became A Problem and I quit and haven't gone back for more than to peek my head in every couple of years, get overwhelmed at the three dozen types of resource grinds, and uninstall again. With Genshin, by contrast, I pay for Welkin and BP and when the BP's done I run dailies and log out until the next content patch. No telling how much premium currency I bought in Warframe. Brainworms hit different people differently I guess.
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Seems like they just entered a game genre they're not used to and expected something that it's not.
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Feb 25, 2021 18:10
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i haven't farmed artifacts in a month, i'm enjoying the healthy number go up of farming money and other items 
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Feb 25, 2021 18:12
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dogsicle posted:i haven't farmed artifacts in a month, i'm enjoying the healthy number go up of farming money and other items Conversely, artifacts is 95% of how I spend my resin these days because I'm satisfied with everything else. It's fun to finish number go upping my artifacts and occasionally find something better or even really good.
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Feb 25, 2021 18:16
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Tae posted:Seems like they just entered a game genre they're not used to and expected something that it's not. Bingo. Anyone going into Genshin not expecting a grindy gacha game was already going to be way out of their comfort zone. The BotW veneer is just enough to pull genre outsiders in. But it's also understandable, as someone with a complicated relationship with gacha games in general. I used to play a bunch of them, then none at all, and now I'm back to playing two, with Genshin being my primary and Puzzle and Dragons being my "quick login, do quick dailies, and leave" game after that. I do also realize that Genshin does take gaming time away from games I've actually bought and left unopened on the shelf too. Again, complicated relationship. 
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Feb 25, 2021 18:17
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I'm leveling my 14th and 15th characters to level 70 this week. Haven't done artifacts in a while, just bosses since hitting 55. If you find yourself stuck in a rut and don't want to take a break leveling new characters keeps the game fun.
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Feb 25, 2021 18:18
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TheFluff posted:gone, thanks to an anonymous goon for taking it off my hands Glad you were able to identify it as a problem for you and then extricate yourself from it. I find it's healthy every now and then to take a step back and ask yourself why you're doing a thing. I almost hit that point just tryin' to get Icy Boy before the deadline. Now I might do more tower defense or I might just climb some more mountains. Or maybe I got my two weeks out of the game and I'll move on for a bit; I do find it less compelling now that very few interactions are voiced.
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Feb 25, 2021 18:25
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I spent a little while on the treadmill of clearing bosses and dungeons to power up my characters and oh no the world level increased let's clear bosses and dungeons to power up my characters and oh dear it happened again for a few weeks and realized it wasn't as fun as it was consuming. Now I'm restricting myself to events and character quests and the game is a lot more enjoyable again. I'm not even doing dailies for primos anymore. Maybe in a few months I'll max out a battle pass and do dailies, bosses, and domains, but it can't be a regular thing for me.
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Feb 25, 2021 18:34
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No Wave posted:I'm leveling my 14th and 15th characters to level 70 this week. Haven't done artifacts in a while, just bosses since hitting 55. If you find yourself stuck in a rut and don't want to take a break leveling new characters keeps the game fun. Yeah, this is what I've been doing except characters to 80/90. I've done 9 of them. Keqing, Qiqi, and Mona are all next on my list. After that I might zone in on artifacts a bit more. Keqing is actually pretty fun to play and is quite a bit different than Klee and Chong that adds a bit more novelty. Just maxed out my 7th char on friendship too. I think for a lot of people just not playing between major patches is probably the way to go, but I'm having fun just doing the daily stuff with a set of new chars.
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Feb 25, 2021 18:39
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I've been doing the opposite with friendship. My goal is to not hit max friendship with anyone for as long as I can (while still spending all resin).
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Feb 25, 2021 18:45
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GOD I hate the Tartaglia fight. Do you guys have any pro strats for the last phase? The first two are easy but time consuming and the last one just one-shots all my characters one by one. And it takes so long to get to that stage it is hard to learn to predict what he does with my old and smooth brain.
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Feb 25, 2021 19:04
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Corla Plankun posted:GOD I hate the Tartaglia fight. Do you guys have any pro strats for the last phase? The first two are easy but time consuming and the last one just one-shots all my characters one by one. And it takes so long to get to that stage it is hard to learn to predict what he does with my old and smooth brain. Who are you using?
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Feb 25, 2021 19:05
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I do the daily artifact runs, but not the artifact domains. Yhe domains make mad running through 6 condensed resin and not getting a drat thing I can use. I spent last week only doing exp ley lines, and that's about enough to level up 3 characters from pull to end game, not counting artifacts. Turns out one of the characters I had ti level up was amber. My only fire characters are Bennet, Xiangling and Amber. I only had the first two built up, and attempting the current spiral moon without Klee or Diluc is freakin' hard.
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Feb 25, 2021 19:10
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No Wave posted:I'm leveling my 14th and 15th characters to level 70 this week. Haven't done artifacts in a while, just bosses since hitting 55. If you find yourself stuck in a rut and don't want to take a break leveling new characters keeps the game fun. As of today I have all but 8 of my total character at at least 70/80. Childe, Diluc, and Beidou are 80/80, Xiao is 80/90. But yeah this is my next project after I had gotten them all to 50/60. Also, I run Oceanid with Xiao/Benny/Sucrose/Zhongli and Zhongs shield alone more or less trivializes that fight. After everyone is at 70/80 I'm going to realize Thicc Zhong and go for the gimmicky HP build because those shields are hilariously strong and I get more damage while they're up anyway. So now I'm working everyone else up. The nice thing about this game is that you can play a bunch of you want to, or you can pop in, spend all your resin and do the dailies in like 20 minutes and log out.
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Feb 25, 2021 19:12
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Corla Plankun posted:GOD I hate the Tartaglia fight. Do you guys have any pro strats for the last phase? The first two are easy but time consuming and the last one just one-shots all my characters one by one. And it takes so long to get to that stage it is hard to learn to predict what he does with my old and smooth brain. Depends on who you play i guess? But with Razor/Diluc i just get close to him and find it easy to dodge his 3 strikes attack... that he repeats over and over again. At least for me, part 1 and 2 is harder...
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Feb 25, 2021 19:13
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Saxophone posted:As of today I have all but 8 of my total character at at least 70/80. Childe, Diluc, and Beidou are 80/80, Xiao is 80/90. But yeah this is my next project after I had gotten them all to 50/60. Also, I run Oceanid with Xiao/Benny/Sucrose/Zhongli and Zhongs shield alone more or less trivializes that fight. After everyone is at 70/80 I'm going to realize Thicc Zhong and go for the gimmicky HP build because those shields are hilariously strong and I get more damage while they're up anyway. Is the thicc build 4 Bolide, ER/HP% weapon, and max HP? I built phys DPS 2 Bloodstained / 2 Glad and the shield is respectable but I want more
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Framboise posted:Bingo. Anyone going into Genshin not expecting a grindy gacha game was already going to be way out of their comfort zone. The BotW veneer is just enough to pull genre outsiders in. This is kind of where I am when it came to me playing a gacha game when I normally do not. I tend to be pretty picky with games and I bounce off a lot of them, but I saw a reference to BotW in the title of the first thread and was bored at that exact moment so I downloaded the game on a whim because it was "free" and I liked BotW. The only other gacha game I have played was FFRK for a few months. I like the exploring in Genshin Impact, but I really do not care about the gacha or farming stuff at all. Right now even though I am not enjoying burning resin or completing dailies, I feel like if I stop I will be behind and missing out on X, though I am not quite sure what X is. I assume the second I stop doing dailies and spending resin I will not play again. Another thing keeping me playing besides FOMO is that you can accomplish things in short amounts of time. I often don't have big blocks of time to dedicate to a game, so the fact that you can accomplish something the minute you login in is kind of nice compared to other games where unless you have a block of hours to play, you are just trying to remember what you were doing for 15 minutes before turning it off again. Pain of Mind fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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One trick against Tartaglia is that when he places the ring around you and is prepping for the dive attack, you can cleanse the ring by running into the edge of the arena and inflicting yourself with pyro. Trying to i-frame the dive is really hard if it's right on top of you but cleansing the ring off and then just outranging it is a lot simpler.
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Corla Plankun posted:GOD I hate the Tartaglia fight. Do you guys have any pro strats for the last phase? The first two are easy but time consuming and the last one just one-shots all my characters one by one. And it takes so long to get to that stage it is hard to learn to predict what he does with my old and smooth brain.
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Feb 25, 2021 19:23
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zgrowler2 posted:Is the thicc build 4 Bolide, ER/HP% weapon, and max HP? I built phys DPS 2 Bloodstained / 2 Glad and the shield is respectable but I want more What I've seen is that you're primarily only going to be shielding and Qing on him so you run full noblesse. HP weapon if you're leaning into it, otherwise yeah ER. You're better off running geo cup and dps artifacts for better damage, but we're not building Zhong to DPS, we're building him to be FUN and to provide 20k shields. Plus he's gonna do 15k+ meteor crits with full HO gear anyway and presumably he's support if you're doing HP so that's good enough™
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Descar posted:Depends on who you play i guess? But with Razor/Diluc i just get close to him and find it easy to dodge his 3 strikes attack... that he repeats over and over again. At least for me, part 1 and 2 is harder... I think this might be the issue. I was mostly doing ranged DPS this morning but maybe the last phase is easier if I stay close.
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I burned out a bit after trying to get all the primos I could for Xiao/Diona pulling (and getting little to show for it). Until today, I've only logged in for Welkin primos since the end of the banner, and I skipped a few of those to boot. Take a break if you aren't feeling it! There's plenty of games out there. Parametric Transformer pull using 150 Mint, charged only by Ningguang autos:
Seems like the items are ordered by category -> rarity -> region (or some internal number), rather than by category -> rarity -> quantity.
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Feb 25, 2021 19:41
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i'm seven hundred thousand posts behind, but is the big 1 billion primogem website down? i can't load anything from mihoyo right now.
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Feb 25, 2021 21:32
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kater posted:i'm seven hundred thousand posts behind, but is the big 1 billion primogem website down? i can't load anything from mihoyo right now. It's up for me, but it's changed to "calculating rewards"
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"Calculating rewards..." aka, having internal meetings on fudging numbers to reach the smallest number that our scientists have determined players believe to be a lot of primogems.
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Qwertycoatl posted:It's up for me, but it's changed to "calculating rewards" I.... I only launched 4 of the lanterns. Mihoyo plz
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Saxophone posted:I.... I only launched 4 of the lanterns. Perfect, can't wait for my slice of your share 
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Tsyni posted:Perfect, can't wait for my slice of your share Hahaha goddammit. If this winds up being a 10-pull worth or something I'm going to be cranky. I doubt it, but still. My wife's car was stolen Monday and save for escaping into Genshin and Valheim I kinda forgot about peripheral stuff like this, haha.
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Bloody Emissary posted:
It looks like the game ranks 2 hero's wit and 4 adventurers experience as similar in value to 6 of the green weapon upgrade mats and a single blue talent book going by your results. 150 mint charged mostly with Oz but also with a few hits from Diluc, Bennett, and XQ: 6 Hero's Wit 12 Adventurers Experience 8 green talent books 3 types with 2 books, 2 types with 1 book. This is how I charged it last time and I think I had fairly similar results.
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Saxophone posted:I.... I only launched 4 of the lanterns. I only launched 3, and I'm not sure how to do to the other 2. Also not too worried about it.
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Feb 25, 2021 22:12
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Bloody Emissary posted:I burned out a bit after trying to get all the primos I could for Xiao/Diona pulling (and getting little to show for it). Until today, I've only logged in for Welkin primos since the end of the banner, and I skipped a few of those to boot. Take a break if you aren't feeling it! There's plenty of games out there. Logged in to experiment Parametric Transformer pull using 150 Mint, charged only by Ningguang autos:
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Saxophone posted:My wife's car was stolen Monday and save for escaping into Genshin and Valheim I kinda forgot about peripheral stuff like this, haha. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eDuVxan5Mo
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Saxophone posted:I.... I only launched 4 of the lanterns. rip to your 120 primos
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Bit late, but if you did the three daily things of sharing a link, visiting the Youtube page etc. you got two more lanters per day. I got five the second day that way.
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Which one would have the biggest impact on grinding artifacts, letting us choose which artifacts we get or the main stat? Like going to the fire domain and choosing crit damage vs guaranteeing crimson witch artifacts?
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Feb 25, 2021 22:53
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1 in 10 hats you find is crit rate. 1 in 2 hats you find is crimson witch. So choosing the former would be more powerful. You would go from 1 in 100 artifacts being an in-set crit rate hat to 1 in 2.
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Feb 25, 2021 22:54
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I never think a type of set is complete junk, but lots of main stats are complete junk.
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TS/LW are both pretty crap all things considered, i would definitely tolerate mainstat roulette to avoid them entirely being able to ignore Bolide when Petra farming would also be a godsend since i already don't like that domain
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I've been putting off more VV/TF/CW farming for a while because I was hoping the fact HoD and Strayer were combined meant the other domains would become less cruel in terms of good drop bad drop. Probably won't happen though.
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I was extremely lucky with my crimson witch set on Klee. Have all three of crit, crit dam, and att% on all of her pieces. And most rolled into those sub stats. Including a very nice off set pyro cup. Using widsith she has 69% crit rate (nice) and 170% crit damage with just under 2k attack. And I say lucky because it only took like 20 runs. I could improve even more since my crit rate hat is 4 star but nah I'm good lol.
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