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Chopstick Dystopia
Jun 16, 2010


lowest high and highest low loser of: WEED WEE
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I recommend getting so far away as to be on another continent.

Working remote for US tech, from a country with socialised healthcare, while getting American figgies is a sweet deal if you can get it.

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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
ahaha yes


nz used to have a “brain drain” where our brightest left for bigger $$ overseas


but now nz is seeing this reverse phenomenon where our brightest are moving back and also other brain-boxes are coming here,

except they’re not coming here to look for work, they’re coming, already with jobs

earning big US dollars, but spending it in our economy. kinda good I suppose

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
startupland is p much a strict subset of figgieland

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Chopstick Dystopia posted:

I recommend getting so far away as to be on another continent.

Working remote for US tech, from a country with socialised healthcare, while getting American figgies is a sweet deal if you can get it.

:hellyeah:

little tougher to manage with the pandemic and every company realizing employees can sit anywhere though, hard to justify a relocation

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

echinopsis posted:

ahaha yes


nz used to have a “brain drain” where our brightest left for bigger $$ overseas


but now nz is seeing this reverse phenomenon where our brightest are moving back and also other brain-boxes are coming here,

except they’re not coming here to look for work, they’re coming, already with jobs

earning big US dollars, but spending it in our economy. kinda good I suppose

If NZ had a Visa for that I'd do it in a second.

Corla Plankun
May 8, 2007

improve the lives of everyone

Hughlander posted:

If NZ had a Visa for that I'd do it in a second.

australia does but :lol: at moving to a country that has had citywide outbreaks of racial violence in the 21st century; australia is a chud dreamland

CarForumPoster
Jun 26, 2013

⚡POWER⚡

Corla Plankun posted:

australia does but :lol: at moving to a country that has had citywide outbreaks of racial violence in the 21st century; australia is a chud dreamland

is this a joke or are you not in the US cause like...that’s many major American cities in the past 4 years

taco_fox
Dec 14, 2005

Saw an application site today that required you to upload a college transcript for a senior engineer position :jerkbag:

Corla Plankun
May 8, 2007

improve the lives of everyone

CarForumPoster posted:

is this a joke or are you not in the US cause like...that’s many major American cities in the past 4 years

yeah absolutely don't move here either, this place sucks rear end

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry

Corla Plankun posted:

australia does but :lol: at moving to a country that has had citywide outbreaks of racial violence in the 21st century; australia is a chud dreamland

calling cronulla citywide is a bit strong, it was a park in a bogan suburb.

Corla Plankun
May 8, 2007

improve the lives of everyone
i dont know what a cronulla is and i dont care, australia can huff my jorts

EIDE Van Hagar
Dec 8, 2000

Beep Boop

Corla Plankun posted:

i dont know what a cronulla is and i dont care, australia can huff my jorts

to be Australian it should be “huff my stubbies”

DELETE CASCADE
Oct 25, 2017

i haven't washed my penis since i jerked it to a phtotograph of george w. bush in 2003
every like 6 months or so i remember australia exists and that's kind of a trip

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
australia is big mate

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
people in australia are attractive coz its a known fact that bad boys are hot and they are a criminal colony

Forums Medic
Oct 2, 2010

i be out there in orbit
so what's your excuse

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

lmfao 2% increase

time to spruce the resume and gently caress off into the sunset.

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

Hughlander posted:

If NZ had a Visa for that I'd do it in a second.

same but the housing situation there is hosed and I would feel like poo poo coming in and being an agent of gentrification

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

KidDynamite posted:

same but the housing situation there is hosed and I would feel like poo poo coming in and being an agent of gentrification

on some level you have look after yourself vs being in the minority voting against your own interests for the sake of everyone else’s. for better or for worse i’m slowly moving toward the looking after myself

I mean they have immigration numbers. if it’s not you it’s literally someone else, and if that was your only reason, it achieves nothing outside of letting someone else do it instead of you.


housing is hosed, but it’s hosed everywhere, and while our govt is dragging its heels, at least I have faith given how often were rated extremely highly for lack of corruption that change is actually possible, compared to america voting in dems and surprised pikachu face what they’re just the same????

Corla Plankun
May 8, 2007

improve the lives of everyone

KidDynamite posted:

same but the housing situation there is hosed and I would feel like poo poo coming in and being an agent of gentrification

unless you are a billionaire you should not blame yourself for gentrification

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


gentrification is a policy failure so of course the usual suspects are trying to pin the blame on individual action just like everything else

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
sure smells like landlords in here all of a sudden

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
i am gonna not read any of that poo poo peeps wrote and just say expropriate the land and build 50 story soulless concrete apartments on it

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Sapozhnik posted:

sure smells like landlords in here all of a sudden

it’s a land lord or get land lorded world out there

Faith For Two
Aug 27, 2015
what’s a good resource for getting advice about where to apply and how to sell myself if I don’t know what I want to do besides leave my current job?

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010
figure out your Unique Selling Proposition. that will help narrow down the field of what to apply for and how to frame your skillset

Truman Peyote
Oct 11, 2006



i'd just look at job listings and see what looked fun. if you're not quitting until you get a job might as well apply for poo poo whether you're qualified or not

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

echinopsis posted:

it’s a land lord or get land lorded world out there

:hmmno:

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
the middle ground .. be your own land lord.. hmm it might work but you might also work until the day you croak


idk I used to have ideals, but idk if I can afford to anymore

SeXTcube
Jan 1, 2009

Found myself typing out a venting/pity post in the tech bubble thread's current discussion, but thought it was more appropriate here.

I'm applying to jobs in NYC and having a hard time with the constant BS. None of my professional experience is in web dev or has been a minor project 3+ years ago. It feels like I'm locked out of 95% of the job postings I've seen and applied to. I've had two interviews go from talking to a recruiter and them telling me that the company has totally hired smart people with minimal web experience. Then when I went on to speak to the engineer the calls lasted less than 5 minutes and they basically asked why I even bothered applying.

The spirit of the thread is alive and well. Pure strain garbage.

raminasi
Jan 25, 2005

a last drink with no ice

Steve Jorbs posted:

Found myself typing out a venting/pity post in the tech bubble thread's current discussion, but thought it was more appropriate here.

I'm applying to jobs in NYC and having a hard time with the constant BS. None of my professional experience is in web dev or has been a minor project 3+ years ago. It feels like I'm locked out of 95% of the job postings I've seen and applied to. I've had two interviews go from talking to a recruiter and them telling me that the company has totally hired smart people with minimal web experience. Then when I went on to speak to the engineer the calls lasted less than 5 minutes and they basically asked why I even bothered applying.

The spirit of the thread is alive and well. Pure strain garbage.

are you considering finance? there are surprising pockets of chill back office jobs that don't primarily touch web stuff.

e: also my old company is not perfect but i'd be astonished if you had that particular problem https://flatiron.com/careers/open-positions/

raminasi fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Mar 9, 2021

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


Steve Jorbs posted:

Found myself typing out a venting/pity post in the tech bubble thread's current discussion, but thought it was more appropriate here.

I'm applying to jobs in NYC and having a hard time with the constant BS. None of my professional experience is in web dev or has been a minor project 3+ years ago. It feels like I'm locked out of 95% of the job postings I've seen and applied to. I've had two interviews go from talking to a recruiter and them telling me that the company has totally hired smart people with minimal web experience. Then when I went on to speak to the engineer the calls lasted less than 5 minutes and they basically asked why I even bothered applying.

The spirit of the thread is alive and well. Pure strain garbage.

this post is ambiguous. are you trying to get into web dev or are you following postings that don't mention web dev at all and suddenly spring it on you once you actually talk to someone on the team?

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


raminasi posted:

are you considering finance? there are surprising pockets of chill back office jobs that don't primarily touch web stuff.

e: also my old company is not perfect but i'd be astonished if you had that particular problem https://flatiron.com/careers/open-positions/

counterpoint: back office finance is a cluster gently caress of outdated software, manual processes, arbitrary deadlines and a management approach that sees it as nothing but a cost center

SeXTcube
Jan 1, 2009

PIZZA.BAT posted:

this post is ambiguous. are you trying to get into web dev or are you following postings that don't mention web dev at all and suddenly spring it on you once you actually talk to someone on the team?
They all explicitly mentioned it to some degree, no surprises. I've also been avoiding the stuff like "front end engineer with 5+ years experience in these technologies"

Outside of the handful of roles that are a better fit for my experience I've just been shotgun applying to stuff and I fully expect most of them to never respond back, but why go through all the effort of scheduling a call with the engineer as if there was going to be a real interview? There's a non-zero amount of effort in preparing and anticipating for that. The rejection could have been an email. I didn't need a dressing down from some nerds. The fact that it happened twice within 3 days is what cheesed me off too.

raminasi
Jan 25, 2005

a last drink with no ice

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

counterpoint: back office finance is a cluster gently caress of outdated software, manual processes, arbitrary deadlines and a management approach that sees it as nothing but a cost center

that's lots of jobs in general, and besides, i was very intentional about not saying "all"

i originally ruled out finance when i started looking for nyc jobs and reversing that decision has worked out very well for me

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

counterpoint: back office finance is a cluster gently caress of outdated software, manual processes, arbitrary deadlines and a management approach that sees it as nothing but a cost center

yeah but if you sell that outdated software the margins are fat and the work environment is mostly sane adults hmu if anyone wants a job at a financial software vendor

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

qirex posted:

yeah but if you sell that outdated software the margins are fat and the work environment is mostly sane adults hmu if anyone wants a job at a financial software vendor

over/under 6.5 figgies?

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


raminasi posted:

that's lots of jobs in general, and besides, i was very intentional about not saying "all"

i originally ruled out finance when i started looking for nyc jobs and reversing that decision has worked out very well for me

yeah I mean I have been working in finance IT for 10+ years and it has its good points, such as:

* turning up hungover being generally ok

* swear as much as you like nobody gives a poo poo

* every department hates every other department so you get a high level of team cohesion (but good luck getting those fuckers in Ops to do anything for you)

* there are a lot of idiots and nothing ever gets fixed so you can look really good just by being able to do basic poo poo like query a database

* pay is generally good (results may vary)

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

hobbesmaster posted:

over/under 6.5 figgies?

not faang but the benefits are good. highly regional I'd imagine as well, our umbrella holding company overlords have offices all over the place

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PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


Powerful Two-Hander posted:

yeah I mean I have been working in finance IT for 10+ years and it has its good points, such as:
...
* every department hates every other department so you get a high level of team cohesion (but good luck getting those fuckers in Ops to do anything for you)
...

in my previous consulting life i had to deal with *a lot* of prickly ops guys but man finance ops guys really are a level beyond

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