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World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


How are u posted:

Point was that evo wasn't king poo poo of Marxism mountain. He was grabbing power and that's no good weather you're left or right.

elaborate how or get the gently caress out, dude, ideally the latter

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Malleum
Aug 16, 2014

Am I the one at fault? What about me is wrong?
Buglord

Majorian posted:

It seems to me like it demonstrates an understanding of the lessons of a century of U.S.-Latin American relations that he tried to hold onto power. He saw what happened to Lula, who followed all the rules and got thrown in prison (with the U.S.' help!) for it.

it seems to me you arent doing your loving job and are letting your dumb freak pen leak

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

People should listen to how are u when he's talking about grabbing power, as a fascist he knows exactly what he's talking about.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Malleum posted:

it seems to me you arent doing your loving job and are letting your dumb freak pen leak

I think you vastly overestimate my powers as an IK.

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth

really queer Christmas posted:

People should listen to how are u when he's talking about grabbing power, as a fascist he knows exactly what he's talking about.

Man I wish I had some power in my life. Just another over educated, unemployed, indebted, depressed American fail man here.

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




mastershakeman posted:

you know the latter is meaningless, right
go volunteer at a church soup kitchen if thats really want you want to do, wastes a lot less effort that way (although you don't get to put it on your resume so it's not useful from that aspect)

yeah I do that already. And I assume people attribute the help to god rather than socialists (because it's the church helping them and not the socialists)

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

How are u posted:

I dont watch MSNBC lmao

get the gently caress out you freak

Dixon Chisholm
Jan 2, 2020

How are u posted:

Man I wish I had some power in my life. Just another over educated, unemployed, indebted, depressed American fail man here.

No wonder you're pathologically optimistic.

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


Majorian posted:

I think you vastly overestimate my powers as an IK.

is there a parliamentarian preventing you from finding someone who does have that power

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

the triumph of neoliberalism is that there are now millions of people in the West who think opposing political power is a progressive goal.

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


no wonder liberals can't govern when they are apparently allergic to seizing power

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

How are u posted:

Man I wish I had some power in my life. Just another over educated, unemployed, indebted, depressed American fail man here.

Well considering what you want to do with it, I'm glad you don't tbh

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth

Dixon Chisholm posted:

No wonder you're pathologically optimistic.

Gotta hold onto something, dude.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

World War Mammories posted:

is there a parliamentarian preventing you from finding someone who does have that power

"No running balls-first into CSPAM and flailing around like an idiot" is, regrettably, not a DnD rule.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

if all of the power is held by capital, then seizing it from them is inherently good

we can make sure it is equitably shared between good-faith public servants who are not handmaidens of capital after we solve that problem, because every event of my adult life shows that they won't simply give power up. They can and will break their own rules at will with no consequences. By hook or by crook, we must get power, by any means possible and necessary

...champ

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Having political power makes you a bad person. So the only thing we can do to achieve political change is to convince the bad people with power to do good things. We have to put our faith in Senator Raytheon to raise the minimum wage. We have to trust the CIA to overthrow the bad dictators.

This is what liberals actually believe.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

loquacius posted:

if all of the power is held by capital, then seizing it from them is inherently good

we can make sure it is equitably shared between good-faith public servants who are not handmaidens of capital after we solve that problem, because every event of my adult life shows that they won't simply give power up. They can and will break their own rules at will with no consequences. By hook or by crook, we must get power, by any means possible and necessary

...champ

make the dipshit explain exactly how they think evo is bad

The Pussy Boss
Nov 2, 2004

How are u posted:

Evo had real issues, but tribalism means that internet leftists dont like to talk about them and rather pretend they dont exist. So it goes.

Not excusing or justify the coup. Glad that poo poo failed. Bolivians deserve better.

do not post here

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005

How are u posted:

Man I wish I had some power in my life. Just another over educated, unemployed, indebted, depressed American fail man here.

the entire reason this is so is because you so thoroughly believe in "Democracy" being the american style we see where actually the state is weak and unelected power interests are strong that you're instinctually afraid of a strong leadership that can fend off challenges from interests who have only them and their businesses in mind

thus your hand-wringing about how "the coup was wrong but morales was wrong for wanting to stay in power when elected despite some arbitrary term limits"

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

I'm not happy about Syria re-entering liberal discourse due to Biden unsurprisingly doing air strikes. Seeing this stuff just makes me upset and angry and is not the funny kind of "succ"

Judakel posted:

I still remember when everyone said it was a nerve gas...

I'm pretty sure people still say that. Some guy in the D&D thread about sources was saying that and I think it's still the US government's position.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

The US state isn't even weak! It has a worldwide military presence and we're not even a year away from it's successful suppression of a nationwide protest movement.

Dixon Chisholm
Jan 2, 2020
Here's a tip: pretending bad things are good and that the monsters running this country are going to help us will not make your life better.


I remember you posting once about how you were incredibly depressed, maybe even suicidal, because you had so little hope for the future. If that's the case, you should probably stop coming into cspam to start poo poo. I've seen you pinch off stinkers in about 4 threads now. That kind of antagonism can't be good for your mental health

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Barry Convex posted:

it's more that anyone who expresses any skepticism at all about FTV is deemed a careerist liberal shill for the Democratic Party now

That's because there is no skepticism to be had. There is no reason to not have a vote on medicare for all. Literally no reason. A vote should have been held immediately upon taking over.

If you want to invent reasons or start arguing about possible hypotheticals you are either jerking yourself off with your ability to argue or you are loving stupid. Either way you are justifying mass murder on the side of the healthcare industry and the politicians that they own and are a shill for the Democrat Party.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Raskolnikov38 posted:

make the dipshit explain exactly how they think evo is bad

A fair request

Forums poster How are u, you don't seem like a particularly bad person, just very depressed and desperate to latch on to something. Your criticisms of Evo are toothless and vague, and you don't even have the strength of convictions to say that they justify the coup. Your heart isn't really in it. You seem like you are in dire need of a new ethos. Might I suggest devoting yourself to opposing capital in all its forms and in every avenue? Failing that, please stop vacillating about Bolivia because you're harshing my vibe

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008

:gowron::m10:
https://twitter.com/JennieTetreault/status/1365137105718943745?s=19

800 liberals liked a post likening migrant kids to feral cats

Ghost of RBG
Sep 21, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

How are u posted:

Man I wish I had some power in my life. Just another over educated, unemployed, indebted, depressed American fail man here.

Go gently caress yourself, you like to vote for rape and genocide.

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica

Complications posted:

Nobody clicked through but his point is that while right on the letter of the rule the rule is stupid bullshit obscuring the fact that the Senate's total inability to pass legislation is made up, dumb, and could be changed with a vote if the democrats gave a poo poo.

spacemang_spliff posted:

why do we have to have a parliamentarian?
To prevent a hypothetical republican from doing something unpopular?
maybe, and hear me out because this is crazy, if the democrats did good things that people liked, they would reward them by voting for them and preventing a repubilcan from being in the position of adding abortion bans to a budget bill

Raccooon posted:

Did the Trump admin replace a parliamentarian or just over rule them before?
Why the gently caress do they care what this person thinks? Just over rule them.

The parliamentarian is an advisor, and what they say at any time is not law, or a meaningful rule. The senate parliamentarian is nothing at all but a justification being used by biden and the democratic party at large to not raise the minimum wage. That's it.

PenguinKnight
Apr 6, 2009

it’s real dope finding that every single stupid loving rule in the house and senate that the Demonrats twiddle their thumbs over isn’t a dumb constitutional law, but is instead a self-imposed rule to block progress

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

papa horny michael posted:

The parliamentarian is an advisor, and what they say at any time is not law, or a meaningful rule. The senate parliamentarian is nothing at all but a justification being used by biden and the democratic party at large to not raise the minimum wage. That's it.

Yeah, their job is literally to just say "hey these are the rules" you can still say "those rules are made up so you're wrong" and they are immediately defeated.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

hi y’all, i have been enlightened by this bernie staffer — it’s actually sexist to question the parliamentarian

https://twitter.com/garbageape/status/1365359876436856834?s=21

and these were the people bernie selected and bernie trusted, even over the objections of other staffers who recognized them for the wreckers and careerists they are.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


PenguinKnight posted:

it’s real dope finding that every single stupid loving rule in the house and senate isn’t a dumb constitutional law, but is instead a self-imposed rule to block progress

Also super cool these rules never seem to impede the Republicans whatsoever since the Democrats are too good to break or ignore them.

misadventurous
Jun 26, 2013

the wise gem bowed her head solemnly and spoke: "theres actually zero difference between good & bad quartzes. you imbecile. you fucking moron"

How are u posted:

Evo had real issues

quote:

Not excusing or justify the coup

great thanks for establishing the land of contrasts that is your brain, you weirdo liberal pollyanna

go concern troll about how sad voting for a rapist made you

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica
All four tweets in this thread
https://twitter.com/nicopitney/status/1365367227885572099?s=20

PenguinKnight
Apr 6, 2009

strong, buff shibe: i will fight tooth and nail for neera tanden

weak, fat, docile shibe: the senate parmesan said no, and we have to respect that

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica
https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1365359372688359427

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
super cool that we have some dipshit like how are u coming here and telling us that evo was no angel

The Pussy Boss
Nov 2, 2004

PenguinKnight posted:

it’s real dope finding that every single stupid loving rule in the house and senate that the Demonrats twiddle their thumbs over isn’t a dumb constitutional law, but is instead a self-imposed rule to block progress

Looks like this law to tax rich ppl and pay for good things is gonna pass. But first we uh... we need to get this approved by the uhhh... the Budget Fairy! Yeah that's it!

*15 minutes later* Bad news everyone,

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica

bedpan posted:

and these were the people bernie selected and bernie trusted, even over the objections of other staffers who recognized them for the wreckers and careerists they are.

thought i remembered her

https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1337512024381775875?s=20

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

hi y’all, i have been enlightened by this bernie staffer — it’s actually sexist to question the parliamentarian

https://twitter.com/garbageape/status/1365359876436856834?s=21

"cancel student debt" while simultaneously defending arbitrary and easily bypassed procedural rules preventing any kind of real reform passing.

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Bootleg Trunks
Jun 12, 2020

How are u posted:

Evo had real issues, but tribalism means that internet leftists dont like to talk about them and rather pretend they dont exist. So it goes.

Not excusing or justify the coup. Glad that poo poo failed. Bolivians deserve better.

:fuckoff:

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