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Rutibex posted:i wish i was a chinese peasant I don't, because I can only speak English
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 00:23 |
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indigi posted:do people mainly live in cities for cheap power and 5g coverage? I am talking about remote working and studying.
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 00:25 |
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what does it mean when the swab comes out brown
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 00:28 |
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https://twitter.com/LavenderNRed/status/1365077444655480832?s=20
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 00:29 |
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https://twitter.com/ChinaDaily/status/1365089449961345026?s=20
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 01:03 |
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lol
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 01:03 |
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 01:10 |
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Rutibex posted:i wonder how many people the USA has lifted out of poverty in the same amount of time u see the world bank has listed extreme poverty at 1.69 dollars a day but china lists extreme poverty at 1.39 dollars a day and that makes china disingenuous
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 02:35 |
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Rutibex posted:seriously! i have been watching videos from a rural chinese grandpa who chills out and does woodworking projects all day for his grandson. would grandpa amu count as a poor making less than $2 per day? i mean i assume he sells this stuff, but lets suppose he just made things for his grandson I was gunna say you can buy some dirt and get to whittlin' here in the USA but there is a weird abundance of rural social media channels that make living in the chinese countryside look wholesome & fulfilling that I can't think of an answer to in the USA. Rural poverty in the US is really crushing & our mega farms and ranches are far from wholesome
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 02:40 |
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Antonymous posted:I was gunna say you can buy some dirt and get to whittlin' here in the USA but the stuff out of china today is a lot like the stuff us boomers remember about their grandparents
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 19:02 |
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Top City Homo posted:u see the world bank has listed extreme poverty at 1.69 dollars a day but china lists extreme poverty at 1.39 dollars a day and that makes china disingenuous Everyone's against incrementalism until a country they like does it.
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 19:07 |
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The Chinese civilization is an agricultural civilization, has long history of celebrating rural life. Living contented rural life is a big part of Taoism. America doesn't have such a rural culture, your local countryside culture is defined by your distance from your Walmart Supercenter, and rural houses/local dishes/accents are pretty similar everywhere. You barely stole the land from the Indians and haven't had time to develop local favors.
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 19:28 |
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it’s kinda funny how western lefties idealize the Chinese rural poor there was a Chinese propaganda “follow-up” piece recently about a migrant worker who went viral a decade ago for looking like this and they try to do a puff piece on how she and her town are doing so much better while mentioning in passing she lost two kids to illness including the one in the photo
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 19:49 |
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its not like the CCP is encouraging people to live contented lives in the countryside. they are trying to get as many people into cities working wage labor as possible. that propaganda documentary even had a rural family that was complaining "they took our farm from us and make us live in this apartment. except they only gave one of our family a very low paid job, and now we cant grow our own food. we need to buy everything from the grocery store now" then there is a scene with a CCP party member who is like "they are used to a different lifestyle in rural life. but we will educate them and in one generation they will be adapted to this new lifestyle"
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 19:56 |
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shrike82 posted:it’s kinda funny how western lefties idealize the Chinese rural poor people with arable land and without arable land are the same and lefties idealize them all yes siree
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 20:04 |
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you can talk about rising tides etc with the conversion of the Chinese peasant class into urban wage laborers but it’s crushing work whether you’re working a electronics factory line with dorms that have suicide netting or a middle class IT guy working 996 hours the US is a failed state but you guys seriously don’t know how much wealth and luxury is concentrated in the West if you’re opining about wanting to be born by RNG in China versus the US
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 20:08 |
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being rural poor sounds bad and shouldn't be idealized, good thing the chinese government is making a determined effort to alleviate it and improve their living standards.
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 20:14 |
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to be clear i said i want to live like Grandpa Amu, not a shenzhen factory worker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbe9oDWNSqk
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 20:17 |
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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1365320338767282178?s=21
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 20:47 |
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new tim and eric character
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 20:50 |
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The problem was that the Emperor backed the wrong fascists!
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 22:52 |
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:the stuff out of china today is a lot like the stuff us boomers remember about their grandparents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHsrbgZw7yc
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# ? Feb 27, 2021 05:02 |
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if you want me to believe in socialism, you gotta go to the max. no half measures here. there has gotta be synchronized dancers with red flags that do domino effect moves as they sing in unison about merging with the motherland and turning iron into steel. we solved extreme poverty? pfft, we're just getting started. we're not going to slow down for a second, we're gonna power up even more... and we've already got a plan. authentic communists go for broke and remind themselves that "it is fear that guards the vineyards," and the haters and losers are growing very afraid indeed.
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# ? Feb 27, 2021 05:26 |
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THS posted:what do you think the party is sabotaging that could actually help The anti-corruption stuff is probably the biggest point, because it’s one of those situations where they say one thing, they plaster everywhere about corruption crackdowns, and you hear about some big cases. But, in local government, it’s rampant and ridiculously transparent, like absolutely shameless stuff. That’s the poo poo that has a bigger impact on people’s lives, the central government has the ability to make an actual dent in it but, they don’t... Just those big cases that I guess look good in news articles but don’t even make up a percent of a percent of the actual problem. I’m kinda cynical and have my own ideas of what’s really going on but I dunno. The ACFTU and the labor bureaus are supposed to prevent worker exploitation, but the ACFTU is just sorta a whatever thing, you know how it goes, actual workers have no say in it and it rarely actually stands up for them, especially not rural workers who migrate for their jobs. They get treated like poo poo, paid like poo poo, and the party leaves them no real means to address this. Sure, they can march to Beijing but, lol. If the party was actually doing what it should be doing for them, Wu Guijin wouldn’t have even been arrested in the first place, that wouldn’t have even been news. I’m also worried about the rise in food prices over the past couple years. I don’t get why people aren’t really talking about this here, because it’s definitely something Chinese people that, apparently, people want the best for, are really concerned about. When you are making <2000rmb a month, that is some serious poo poo. I’m not gonna say the party is sabotaging anything there though, because I really just don’t know. I have no idea what they could do about that, at least in the short term. And also, for how much poo poo goes into Shanghai, what rural China is getting is absolute scraps. I don’t know why I should celebrate that. I didn’t not expect the “but America” stuff, and if I was talking about America I literally couldn’t agree more. Like I said, I’m from the place with the poison water. Kwame just got loving pardoned of all things. I think America is the most dangerous thing right now for the entire world. But, this is about domestic China issues. Believe it or not, a place can exist without its entire existence based on how it relates to America. I know only seeing non-white countries by how they relate to America is nothing new, but it’s a super lovely thing to do. And, that seems to be half this threads perspective on China, not as a real group of humans you actually give a poo poo about, but as an other that only exists because America exists. It’s borderline noble savage stuff, at least the kind of thinking involved. I think this should be pretty obvious for anyone who cares about western imperialism. About as bad as; Rutibex posted:i'm watching this documentary and i am super jealous of these rural chinese people who have their own houses and more living space than i've ever dreamed of. this guy is supposedly poor and all i can think is "drat i wish i could live in a cave i dug myself" Like, I’ll pat the party on the back when things are actually not lovely. stephenthinkpad posted:America doesn't have such a rural culture, your local countryside culture is defined by your distance from your Walmart Supercenter, and rural houses/local dishes/accents are pretty similar everywhere. You barely stole the land from the Indians and haven't had time to develop local favors. America actually does, (The Jeffersonian ideal yeoman farmer bullshit) but it's as fake as the Chinese one. BrainDance has issued a correction as of 07:15 on Feb 27, 2021 |
# ? Feb 27, 2021 07:12 |
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it really does seem like they could be doing more for workers and farmers, but aren’t for whatever reason
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# ? Feb 27, 2021 07:17 |
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BrainDance posted:To me, most of it comes down to ineffective anti-corruption measures, the labor bureaus rarely enforcing labor law, and the ACFTU. I feel like they’re probably all related. good post, thanks. i also dont like the weird fetishization of rural life that seems very fake and privileged. i think most people have vague understandings of chinese domestic issues because this is an english speaking forum largely filled with americans so, there’s a huge amount of disconnect necessarily with that. the GBS thread and honestly a lot of internet discussion is filled with straight up racism so it’s easier to gloss over people glossing china over
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# ? Feb 27, 2021 07:37 |
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i'm very privileged by global standards and the fact that my grandfather owned a car means my family is part of a small fraction of the world. very likely wouldn't have been the case for the grandfather of a PRC citizen of my age. and i have to remind myself when something chaotic happens like the infrastructure going out for a week, well, for huge numbers of people in a lot of countries, some state of freefall is a normal part of their life. it's easy to take things like basic infrastructure for granted. i've known people who've worked as journalists in really troubled countries, and one would see things like a village fleeing into the woods for a week because an armed group fired off some shots in the area, and then they came back a week later hauling all kinds of vegetables and animals they harvested while living in the woods, and then reopened their shops and sold the veggies and meat like nothing happened. well that was the situation for the grandparents of chinese people my age when the country was just in a state of war and anarchy. but people are very adaptable, and every place has unique characteristics, so the question becomes -- once you have some stability and basic infrastructure in place -- how do you then specialize, like a town that has a certain local crop they can harvest and ship to cities and make some money and get out of poverty. and only they will really know what that is, they'll know the characteristics of their local area much better than i do or some central planners.
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# ? Feb 27, 2021 08:10 |
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THS posted:good post, thanks. i also dont like the weird fetishization of rural life that seems very fake and privileged. i think most people have vague understandings of chinese domestic issues because this is an english speaking forum largely filled with americans so, there’s a huge amount of disconnect necessarily with that. the GBS thread and honestly a lot of internet discussion is filled with straight up racism so it’s easier to gloss over people glossing china over the gbs thread is truly terrible. i go over and read a few pages every now and then and last time i was there a guy got banned for calling for the mass murder of han chinese people. several other people agreed with him and didn’t get even probed, and a mod came in and said he thinks the banned guy is overall a good poster and would unban him if he said he’s sorry
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# ? Feb 27, 2021 08:45 |
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Nice little new yorker article that plays all the hits https://www.newyorker.com/news/a-reporter-at-large/china-xinjiang-prison-state-uighur-detention-camps-prisoner-testimony
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# ? Feb 27, 2021 09:36 |
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I just learned about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhong_Gong and Zhang Hongbao. quote:Zhang Hongbao (simplified Chinese: 张宏堡; traditional Chinese: 張宏堡) (5 January 1954 in Harbin, Heilongjiang, China,[1] – 31 July 2006, Arizona, USA) was the founder and spiritual leader of Zhong Gong, a qigong-based system of practices and beliefs. He was also a wealthy businessman, and a self-proclaimed leader of the Chinese democracy movement. lmao so, what's the deal with the qigong movement that somehow got out of the party's control and resulted in, according to wikipedia, a land of grandmothers in cults?
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# ? Feb 27, 2021 10:53 |
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QiAnon
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# ? Feb 27, 2021 11:17 |
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I wonder how 'Americans tested by China for COVID-19 using most-accurate testing methods available' is being framed on Reddit by liberals... >U.S. diplomats forced by China to undergo anal swab testing for Covid-19 after Biden raised "fundamental concerns" about Beijing's "coercive and unfair economic practices and human rights abuses in Xinjiang." [COVID-19] (nbcnews.com)
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# ? Feb 27, 2021 11:51 |
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weak american diplomats unused to actually being tested for covid instead of left to die
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# ? Feb 27, 2021 11:59 |
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oh no, not my butt! e: just realized that meme is over a decade old and goons might not even remember it
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# ? Feb 27, 2021 12:00 |
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11 years of lurking+posting and i dont get the reference
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# ? Feb 27, 2021 15:11 |
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Protagorean posted:11 years of lurking+posting and i dont get the reference
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# ? Feb 27, 2021 15:51 |
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Protagorean posted:11 years of lurking+posting and i dont get the reference conservative cartoonists used to be terrified that obamacare doctors were gonna make them get their buttholes checked
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# ? Feb 27, 2021 18:39 |
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Benagain posted:Everyone's against incrementalism until a country they like does it. no one actually does incrementalism on the whole, the entire world except china, has gotten poorer
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# ? Feb 27, 2021 18:47 |
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mawarannahr posted:I just learned about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhong_Gong and Zhang Hongbao. I'm more of a Yang Gang type of person. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Jingyu quote:
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fart simpson posted:the gbs thread is truly terrible. i go over and read a few pages every now and then and last time i was there a guy got banned for calling for the mass murder of han chinese people. several other people agreed with him and didn’t get even probed, and a mod came in and said he thinks the banned guy is overall a good poster and would unban him if he said he’s sorry You get mindmelting takes when talking about China. China was brought up in the POS and people started talking about how Chinese people are very racist and how Chinese imperialism is a threat.
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