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Chainclaw
Feb 14, 2009

Imagined posted:

Hell I've lamented many times recently how FAQs and walkthroughs for the web ala GameFAQS are also obsolete technology nowadays in favor of loving YouTube videos for every little thing. Gotta sit through xxweedlordxx's 8 minute video for information that would've taken 20 seconds to read on GameFAQS ten years ago, just so xxweedlordxx can try to monetize his brand.

Everyone only read the long FAQs on GameFAQs, so xxweedlordxx's FAQ there would also have like 8 million extra characters telling you in detail why The Offspring are relevant to this PS1 RPG.

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OniPanda
May 13, 2004

OH GOD BEAR




It's also a pain in the dick for minecraft mods. Apparently documentation is obsolete. For the big mods you can get lucky and someone will make a good video with bookmarks, but mod packs get extra painful because of the recipe changes, so your only hope is a let's play.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Man ain't no one on youtube even call themselves xxweedlordxx anymore, they'd be too afraid of getting demonetized.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


TotalLossBrain posted:

Also obsolete technology - game cheats and walkthroughs in printed magazines. If you got stuck on a game, you better hope some magazine will carry a hint in the next few months.

I remember sending a letter in a games magazine asking for a hint while being stuck in some game. They printed the letter with typos and made the thing completely unrecognizable, so I got no answer to my question. Luckily we got a modem shortly after and I could go search the net for a walkthrough.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

My Lovely Horse posted:

Man ain't no one on youtube even call themselves xxweedlordxx anymore, they'd be too afraid of getting demonetized.

True, it'd be "BracksBricks" or "OMGItsJohnny" or something.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗

Chainclaw posted:

Everyone only read the long FAQs on GameFAQs, so xxweedlordxx's FAQ there would also have like 8 million extra characters telling you in detail why The Offspring are relevant to this PS1 RPG.

Wicked sweet ascii logo with copyright warnings.

I do miss written walkthroughs. Ign has lame attempts at them, but they're terribly written and organized and usually boil down to "watch the youtube clip"

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer

OniPanda posted:

It's also a pain in the dick for minecraft mods. Apparently documentation is obsolete. For the big mods you can get lucky and someone will make a good video with bookmarks, but mod packs get extra painful because of the recipe changes, so your only hope is a let's play.

No matter how much I watch MumboJumbo I'll never learn redstone.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

I say we should make youtube speedrunning a thing. The challenge being to present a topic in a video that's as short and concise as possible.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

ProZD has already pretty much won that

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

ProZD nerd voice: umm, those were originally vines, not content created specifically for youtube, therefore...

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Collateral Damage posted:

I say we should make youtube speedrunning a thing. The challenge being to present a topic in a video that's as short and concise as possible.

"Unironic hate towards yt/google + warning.mp4"
-10mil views
Monetized

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
Ad for Victorian era porn that tries to press every salacious button possible. You can feel the passion for graphic design.



EDIT: :lol:



EDIT 2: Just in case you thought it was the Internet that made people weird, how about some Victorian chloroform porn? :stonk:

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Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

I think the first one must be this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manon_Lescaut

quote:

The Story of the Chevalier des Grieux and Manon Lescaut is a novel by Antoine François Prévost. Published in 1731, it is the seventh and final volume of Mémoires et aventures d'un homme de qualité (Memoirs and Adventures of a Man of Quality). The story, set in France and Louisiana in the early 18th century, follows the hero, the Chevalier des Grieux, and his lover, Manon Lescaut. Controversial in its time, the work was banned in France upon publication. Despite this, it became very popular and pirated editions were widely distributed. In a subsequent 1753 edition, the Abbé Prévost toned down some scandalous details and injected more moralizing disclaimers.

Konstantin
Jun 20, 2005
And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.
How convenient to be able to get my chloroform porn and philosophical texts from the same vendor, this must be where Jeff Bezos got the idea from.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Those are an absolute joy; where did you find them?

e: There are two different operas based on that story: "Manon Lescaut" by Puccini, and "Manon" by Massenet. There's also at least one ballet.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer

TotalLossBrain posted:

Also obsolete technology - game cheats and walkthroughs in printed magazines. If you got stuck on a game, you better hope some magazine will carry a hint in the next few months.

I wrote a walkthrough for Fallout for a German magazine and got paid a few hundred bucks so that was nice. Then they wanted me to write more stuff but I had to buy the games they wanted walkthroughs for. I was young and dumb and I still declined.

you could always call the 1-900 hint line lol

oh if you're german maybe that wasn't a thing there but in the US you could pay to call NINTENDO WIZARDS or whatever they were called and be told where dracula's rib was and poo poo

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




Stefan Prodan posted:

you could always call the 1-900 hint line lol

oh if you're german maybe that wasn't a thing there but in the US you could pay to call NINTENDO WIZARDS or whatever they were called and be told where dracula's rib was and poo poo

I ran up so many phone bills and pissed my parents off a lot with that number.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer

TITTIEKISSER69 posted:

I ran up so many phone bills and pissed my parents off a lot with that number.

for me it was doing that on just normal AOL and prodigy since we didn't have a local number to dial in with

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

Stefan Prodan posted:

you could always call the 1-900 hint line lol

oh if you're german maybe that wasn't a thing there but in the US you could pay to call NINTENDO WIZARDS or whatever they were called and be told where dracula's rib was and poo poo

Early Nintendo marketing in Germany was barebones.
You had to get a subscription and hope your game was covered in the next issue of the club magazine.
I can't even remember when they started to actually translate the in-game text instead of just the manuals.
Games like Secret of Mana had quite liberal localizations ("Holerö").

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?
Nintendo’s game counselor line back in the NES days wasn’t a 900 number it was a long distance call to Redmond Washington. It was obviously still a long distance call (remember those?) for most of the country but it wasn’t a specific toll call service that cost extra, and Nintendo never saw any money from those long distance fees. Pretty cool to provide as a free service.

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doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

I have a car with an mp3 player option. Though I don't agree, a lot of folks would consider mp3s to be obsolete technology.

I use it. My old car was old (2002), and a 64GB mobile jukebox is a fantastic delight to me.

Here are the things I have to overcome to get mp3s to play properly on this car that is six years old:
  • respect a limit of 700 folders, otherwise it will crash
  • ensure the files are in individual folders per album, because the player ignores tags for sorting albums
  • ensure that filenames sort in play order, because the player ignores tags for sorting tracks
  • ensure that the files do not have lengthy pathnames, because the player will start skipping files with long paths
  • resize cover art, or it doesn't get displayed, or the file is skipped
  • use BulkFileChanger to set file creation/modify/access dates to something sequential, because before the player sorts by filename, it sorts by the gat dang date stamp
  • transcode certain files that just won't play for reasons that I can't figure out

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

Can it play them shuffled?

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Sure. I just like to play albums all the way through most of the time.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

doctorfrog posted:

Here are the things I have to overcome to get mp3s to play properly on this car that is six years old:
  • respect a limit of 700 folders, otherwise it will crash
  • ensure the files are in individual folders per album, because the player ignores tags for sorting albums
  • ensure that filenames sort in play order, because the player ignores tags for sorting tracks
  • ensure that the files do not have lengthy pathnames, because the player will start skipping files with long paths
  • resize cover art, or it doesn't get displayed, or the file is skipped
  • use BulkFileChanger to set file creation/modify/access dates to something sequential, because before the player sorts by filename, it sorts by the gat dang date stamp
  • transcode certain files that just won't play for reasons that I can't figure out

I have an old truck with a cassette player in it, so I bought a cassette - shaped MP3 player that sends the audio into a tape head and uses MicroSD cards.

Once you put the ‘tape’ into the truck’s player, your kinda locked into whatever order your files are in, and there’s no shuffle - it uses the same rules your car does, right down to me having to use BulkFileChanger in order to change the file dates.

Your car and my fake cassette must use the same logic/decoder chip.

Fake edit: it looks like this:

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Does it at least let you skip tracks by using the fast forward?

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Dude 1 guinea is 21 shillings and "2s 6d" means 2.5 shillings. That's almost 90% off the original price!

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Cojawfee posted:

Does it at least let you skip tracks by using the fast forward?

Yes, it's a "normal" head unit installed standard with the car, so it has the features of a generic music player (skip, shuffle, etc.). Mp3 management just seems to be something of an afterthought. Shuffle will (shockingly, considering) shuffle a single folder's contents (recursive selected sub-folder shuffle = no) or the entire directory structure.

I will say this: copying things over to the USB drive used to be a major pain. I'd copy them over, then use mp3tag to apply a baroque folder restructuring so I could browse by Genre/Artist, and another program to truncate folder and filenames. I Googled/figured out how to use foobar to export a shitload of albums by genre and artist, and apply a truncated subfolder structure in one go, while avoiding the 700 folder problem.

code:
$cut(%genre%,50)/$cut(%album artist% - %album%,50)/$cut(%track% - %title%,50)
Then it's Sanse Mp3 Art Sizer to change album art.

Then BulkFileChanger.

Frankly, I'm surprised I managed to cobble a process together.

vvvvv ah, my bad

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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Oh sorry, I mean for the tape thing JnnyThndrs posted.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

JnnyThndrs posted:

I have an old truck with a cassette player in it, so I bought a cassette - shaped MP3 player that sends the audio into a tape head and uses MicroSD cards.

Once you put the ‘tape’ into the truck’s player, your kinda locked into whatever order your files are in, and there’s no shuffle - it uses the same rules your car does, right down to me having to use BulkFileChanger in order to change the file dates.

Your car and my fake cassette must use the same logic/decoder chip.

Fake edit: it looks like this:



This thing is really cool to me. Does it pause when the "tape" isn't being spooled?

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

doctorfrog posted:

This thing is really cool to me. Does it pause when the "tape" isn't being spooled?

Iirc Techmoan took a look at that exact one and the 'tape spools' are just cogs to make the tape player happy and don't actually interact with the MP3 player portion in any way.

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

It should charge from the spool spinning

Kamrat
Nov 27, 2012

Thanks for playing Alone in the dark 2.

Now please fuck off
Here's that techmoan video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppo3IgHWDzA

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Cojawfee posted:

Does it at least let you skip tracks by using the fast forward?

It comes with a little IR remote that has FF/RW, pause and volume, but since the cassette with the IR receiver is mostly inside the deck, you have to find the remote while you’re driving and almost touch the cassette player with it before commands are recognized. Luckily I have a little cubby within easy reach of the steering wheel, so I can grab the remote without taking my eyes off the road. It’s still a PITA, so I try to avoid it.

That’s why I made a couple big SD cards(64gig) with hundreds of hours of music on it and just let it play random poo poo forever. I just make sure there aren’t songs on it that I really hate, it’s like my own personal XM station without ads.

taqueso posted:

It should charge from the spool spinning

I know, that’s the first thing I said, too. I’d pay double for that functionality, but it would probably be a ton of engineering to get a generator in there that wouldn’t upset any of the zillion cassette players that were ever made. At least it has a lithium battery in it that will play a very long time, I’ve never taken a trip long enough for it to go dead, it’ll play at least 5 hours between charges.











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Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

doctorfrog posted:

Yes, it's a "normal" head unit installed standard with the car, so it has the features of a generic music player (skip, shuffle, etc.). Mp3 management just seems to be something of an afterthought. Shuffle will (shockingly, considering) shuffle a single folder's contents (recursive selected sub-folder shuffle = no) or the entire directory structure.

I will say this: copying things over to the USB drive used to be a major pain. I'd copy them over, then use mp3tag to apply a baroque folder restructuring so I could browse by Genre/Artist, and another program to truncate folder and filenames. I Googled/figured out how to use foobar to export a shitload of albums by genre and artist, and apply a truncated subfolder structure in one go, while avoiding the 700 folder problem.

code:
$cut(%genre%,50)/$cut(%album artist% - %album%,50)/$cut(%track% - %title%,50)
Then it's Sanse Mp3 Art Sizer to change album art.

Then BulkFileChanger.

Frankly, I'm surprised I managed to cobble a process together.

vvvvv ah, my bad

I'm really drunk but have you ever considered that maybe you are loving insane?

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

And here I thought I was overdoing it when when I threw together a python script to copy the folders and mp3s onto the USB one by one in numeric/alphabetical order, to trick my car into playing them in the order you would expect.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer
My car (2009 jaguar) has a MP3 player where you plug USB media in and I used to play like several hour long radio shows on it and it would do the weirdest bug I have ever seen in my life

So suppose I had 4 files on there, if I got out of the car 30 minutes into track 1, sometimes when I got back in it would start at the same place IN THE NEXT FILE so I would just get confused as poo poo about what they were talking about

monolithburger
Sep 7, 2011

Stefan Prodan posted:

My car (2009 jaguar) has a MP3 player where you plug USB media in and I used to play like several hour long radio shows on it and it would do the weirdest bug I have ever seen in my life

So suppose I had 4 files on there, if I got out of the car 30 minutes into track 1, sometimes when I got back in it would start at the same place IN THE NEXT FILE so I would just get confused as poo poo about what they were talking about

Grace, space, starts the next file in the same place.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

All of this is probably down to a handful of guys in some chinese chipmaker who had to write some barebones proof of concept firmware (that nobody ever dares change) for their media player chip. Or it's the example code from the development tools that came with one of the chips they bolted together, I guess.

I wonder if anyone has tried to track down who originally wrote the firmware for these things?

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Computer viking posted:

All of this is probably down to a handful of guys in some chinese chipmaker who had to write some barebones proof of concept firmware (that nobody ever dares change) for their media player chip. Or it's the example code from the development tools that came with one of the chips they bolted together, I guess.

I wonder if anyone has tried to track down who originally wrote the firmware for these things?

Would be an interesting project in itself to be honest! A lot of these devices end up with epoxy 'blobs' of unknown proprietary code. And you are right about it being demo code hacked together most of the time.

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Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost
A cheap headunit with USB/bluetooth is so cheap, I haven't messed around with CDs or MP3s in years. Now it's all Spotify and podcasts.

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