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Adrianics
Aug 15, 2006

Affirmative. Yes. Yo. Right on. My man.

Harrow posted:

This works better than it has any right to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li8ZqVGzDXQ

Oh my god, I'm not even joking, BFES is possibly my favourite song from the Persona series and Space Jam (film and soundtrack) is another beloved in-joke between my wife and me. You have made my night!

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Diabetic
Sep 29, 2006

When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world Diabeetus.

Adrianics posted:

I am so happy for this thread. I discovered Persona via Super Smash Bros and bought Persona 5 Royal on a whim based on reviews and being unemployed during lockdown, let's just say that 10 months later I've also played P4G and P3FES, the combined soundtracks of all three have become a beloved in-joke between my wife and me and I've been desperately playing JRPGs to try and recreate the feeling.

I've very rarely felt as many emotions experiencing pop culture as I did when Nevermore played at the end of P4G. I'm so happy these games are a part of my life now!

No joke, I've loved Chrono Trigger for decades, I felt no game would ever come close, sure I really like games but nothing close to Chrono Trigger... Until Persona 4, I guess it was the time in my life but it was just the perfect combat and soundtrack I'd been looking for. I love them both on different levels but it made me so incredibly happy to find another game that made me feel like Chrono Trigger did.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

WrightOfWay posted:

The opening of Mass Destruction is the worst bit of battle music in modern Persona.

wtf

Funky Valentine posted:

Wrong, it's the only good part of Mass Destruction.

wtf????

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
True story, a while back, I was just going through youtube recommendations for music. It had been a few years since I last played Persona 4, I'd spent more time with 3 and other games, and then Your Affection came up, and the nostalgia hit me like a loving train. I'd completely forgotten how much that game meant to me in high school, how it came into my life when I needed it most. I got reminded of it all at once, the sanctuary I had in the absolute shittiest part of my life. First and only time a Persona song not named 'Memories of You' made me cry.

Wudz
Aug 19, 2005

*LATEST FAD
I'm not sure if it's because I happened to hear it at the right time in my life or what, but Snowflakes still hits pretty deep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFTbH43n77Q


Harrow posted:

This works better than it has any right to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li8ZqVGzDXQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPHVNMefUT0

a good title goes a long way

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Wudz posted:

I'm not sure if it's because I happened to hear it at the right time in my life or what, but Snowflakes still hits pretty deep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFTbH43n77Q

P4G's entire soundtrack is one of the best ever but if I had to pick a single song to represent the game, it's Snowflakes. If there was someone who knew nothing about Persona 4, I'd play this song and say "this embodies the entire spirit of why this game is the best."

Similarly, this song is P3 for me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYXupyFb3A8

Ostentatious
Sep 29, 2010

I always wonder what the persona gang is up to now that they are anime old for instance I believe that rascal akihiko currently suffers from CTE onset by being punched in the head too much

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Ostentatious posted:

I always wonder what the persona gang is up to now that they are anime old for instance I believe that rascal akihiko currently suffers from CTE onset by being punched in the head too much
Chie is a cop with a decade's worth of police brutality quietly swept under the rug.

Solaris 2.0
May 14, 2008

So does the third semester just ...start? I beat the final boss, went through a bunch of cutscenes, then suddenly had a weird dream where I am in the school and later on I wake up with Morgana next to me but Morgana is human.

Just curious If I am past where the base game ends and the extra Royal content begins.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Solaris 2.0 posted:

So does the third semester just ...start? I beat the final boss, went through a bunch of cutscenes, then suddenly had a weird dream where I am in the school and later on I wake up with Morgana next to me but Morgana is human.

You are in the third semester.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Solaris 2.0 posted:

So does the third semester just ...start? I beat the final boss, went through a bunch of cutscenes, then suddenly had a weird dream where I am in the school and later on I wake up with Morgana next to me but Morgana is human.

Just curious If I am past where the base game ends and the extra Royal content begins.

In the base game none of this happens, if you're curious. You'd be seeing credits by now.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Harrow posted:

I wonder how many other people discovered Persona through Joker being in Smash.

Joker being in Smash might have been the biggest shot in the arm in Persona history. The fact that he was implemented in such a way that even people unfamiliar with the series went "whoa this is slick as gently caress" combined with Persona 5 being so loving good that even people who dont like JRPGs commonly recommend it has undoubtedly brough the franchise to its most popular point ever, particularly outside Japan.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Ostentatious posted:

I always wonder what the persona gang is up to now that they are anime old for instance I believe that rascal akihiko currently suffers from CTE onset by being punched in the head too much

It's funny to imagine all the P2 IS kids are now old fogies.

Well, by anime standards. They're probably more like my age. But still, 30-something is a huge jump from high school. Eikichi has probably stopped dressing up like he used to. Lis and Tatsuya are happily married, of course.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Katsuya's almost 50. Baofu is almost 60.

Solaris 2.0
May 14, 2008

Also I’ve heard people say Makoto isn’t funny but I all laughed pretty hard at this and I imagine the localization folks knew exactly what they were doing with this line.

mastajake
Oct 3, 2005

My blade is unBENDING!

Yeah, the triple threat of Snowflakes, Reach out to the Truth, and Heaven makes P4G one of my favorite games for soundtracks alone. Not to mention Shadow World and its video that must be watched in its entirety every time you boot up the game or else you're a monster.

Wudz posted:

I'm not sure if it's because I happened to hear it at the right time in my life or what, but Snowflakes still hits pretty deep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFTbH43n77Q

Chie is like 15 feet in the air in that picture.

Solaris 2.0 posted:

later on I wake up with Morgana next to me but Morgana is human.

Oh I loved that scene.

mastajake fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Feb 28, 2021

Ostentatious
Sep 29, 2010

NikkolasKing posted:

It's funny to imagine all the P2 IS kids are now old fogies.

Well, by anime standards. They're probably more like my age. But still, 30-something is a huge jump from high school. Eikichi has probably stopped dressing up like he used to. Lis and Tatsuya are happily married, of course.

Ya like p4 gang uh, I think protag/chie is 27 and naoto is 26 they prolly busy getting to the bottom of why their prime shipment was a day late

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Rise probably runs her own idol agency now and is talked about as if she were an impossibly ancient old lady.

Alacron
Feb 15, 2007

-->Have tearful reunion with your son
-->Eh
Fun Shoe
Didn't Rise have posters everywhere in P5? I guess she's still a singer.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

I feel like of all the Persona casts I have the clearest idea of where the P5 kids will be one day.

If Joker showed up in a future game as a grownup running Leblanc with some vague mention that he's married (but never confirming to who) I feel like everyone would be on board with that future for him.

Alacron posted:

Didn't Rise have posters everywhere in P5? I guess she's still a singer.

Yeah, you can get one for your room.

neonchameleon
Nov 14, 2012



Dpulex posted:

So we agree that persona 3 is the best one?

The arcana is the means by which tedium is revealed...

Seriously, there's a good case that can be made for the "real world" parts of Persona 3 and the themes being the best. The real world mechanics with reversed and broken social links have a very good case for being the best. But Tartarus is procedurally generated blandness with far more leaning on friendly AI than later games.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Little column a a little column b. Reversing and breaking if you're a total dick is good, having to date every woman to get max rank is bad

Acerbatus
Jun 26, 2020

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Persona 3 also suffers from having waaaaay too much dead time with nothing going on except going to bed because tartarus doesn't take that long to climb and you already maxed out every persona at the arcade. :v:

Maybe that's why 4 and 5 have so much of that enforced.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Alacron posted:

Didn't Rise have posters everywhere in P5? I guess she's still a singer.
She's not just a singer, she successfully transitioned to being a triple threat (which is basically the only way a pop idol in Japan can avoid falling off the map once they're out of their teens.)

Rockstar Massacre
Mar 2, 2009

i only have a crazy life
because i make risky decisions
from a position of
unreasonable self-confidence
P5Dancing has Ann explicitly reference Rise as still active in showbiz.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Harrow posted:

If Joker showed up in a future game as a grownup running Leblanc with some vague mention that he's married (but never confirming to who) I feel like everyone would be on board with that future for him.
We're going to learn about Shujin's new gym teacher Mr. Sakamoto, the most popular model in Japan Ann, the rising star in the art world Yusuke, newly-minted police chief Makoto, cryptocurrency enthusiast Futaba, and Okumura Foods CEO Haru, with Joker never being vaguely alluded to, as is tradition.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Funky Valentine posted:

We're going to learn about Shujin's new gym teacher Mr. Sakamoto, the most popular model in Japan Ann, the rising star in the art world Yusuke, newly-minted police chief Makoto, cryptocurrency enthusiast Futaba, and Okumura Foods CEO Haru, with Joker never being vaguely alluded to, as is tradition.

Most likely yeah. I do think it would be fun if you visit some retro coffee shop in Tokyo in like Persona 7 and there's a shaggy-haired guy with glasses behind the counter who doesn't say much but seems to oddly understand what you're going through. One scene and that's all.

Weirdly I have absolutely no idea what future I imagine for the P4 protagonist. Maybe he just feels like even more of a blank slate than Joker, but even anime/spinoff Yu Narukami, I don't really know what I imagine he does as a grownup.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


Funky Valentine posted:

We're going to learn about Shujin's new gym teacher Mr. Sakamoto, the most popular model in Japan Ann, the rising star in the art world Yusuke, newly-minted police chief Makoto, cryptocurrency enthusiast Futaba, and Okumura Foods CEO Haru, with Joker never being vaguely alluded to, as is tradition.

We’ll get some trashy news article about how the mysterious leader of the phantom thieves (who is in fact not mysterious at all he’s on public record as being the leader and showed up on tv multiple times) might be stealing the hearts of women across the nation.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Harrow posted:

Weirdly I have absolutely no idea what future I imagine for the P4 protagonist. Maybe he just feels like even more of a blank slate than Joker, but even anime/spinoff Yu Narukami, I don't really know what I imagine he does in as a grownup.
The somewhat obvious route is Yu becoming a detective but that's stealing Naoto's gig.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


Funky Valentine posted:

The somewhat obvious route is Yu becoming a detective but that's stealing Naoto's gig.

He’s an underworld Kingpin operating out of Inaba, simply helping each of his friends in small ways whenever they need something.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Joker ends up a bum, having been unable to hold down a job for more than a few days following the death of his cat at age 5 (ironically he got hit by a van.)

Psychologists blame sleep deprivation

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Fojar38 posted:

Joker ends up a bum, having been unable to hold down a job for more than a few days following the death of his cat at age 5

He burnt himself out after Morgana died, he could never realize when it was time to rest

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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It didn't help that he had his high school diploma revoked following revelations that he looked up all his exam answers on the internet

anakha
Sep 16, 2009


It's 10 years after P4. Nanako is 16 and in the middle of her second year at Yasogami High School.

Of course Yu 'Sister Complex Kingpin of Steel' Narukami will not be anywhere else but in Inaba at this point in time.

Solaris 2.0
May 14, 2008

Oh man in Royal the alt reality where Futaba’s mom is alive and her, Wakaba, and Sojiro are one happy family is peak :smith:

Alacron
Feb 15, 2007

-->Have tearful reunion with your son
-->Eh
Fun Shoe
I imagine Narukami being some kind of unassuming domestic sort. Elementary school teacher, local handyman, househusband, that sort of thing.

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.

Funky Valentine posted:

We're going to learn about Shujin's new gym teacher Mr. Sakamoto, the most popular model in Japan Ann, the rising star in the art world Yusuke, newly-minted police chief Makoto, cryptocurrency enthusiast Futaba, and Okumura Foods CEO Haru, with Joker never being vaguely alluded to, as is tradition.

'Gym Teacher' Ryuji feels like a step down compared to everyone else. At least make him an Olympic runner or something.

I imagine P4MC is left blank because of potential romance options. He could run the inn besides Yukiko, help Naoto solve crimes, or just follow Rise everywhere like an idol fanboy.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

ApplesandOranges posted:

'Gym Teacher' Ryuji feels like a step down compared to everyone else. At least make him an Olympic runner or something.

I imagine P4MC is left blank because of potential romance options. He could run the inn besides Yukiko, help Naoto solve crimes, or just follow Rise everywhere like an idol fanboy.

That's probably why we won't see Joker as an adult, too. It'd be possible to show him running Leblanc or something but they'd want to keep any possible interpretation of his relationship status open.

Really only one Persona protagonist has made even a cameo in another game in the series (counting P2 as sorta one game for the purpose of discussion) so I figure it's unlikely we'll see any of them again outside of spinoffs.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Harrow posted:

Really only one Persona protagonist has made even a cameo in another game in the series (counting P2 as sorta one game for the purpose of discussion) so I figure it's unlikely we'll see any of them again outside of spinoffs.
Do Tatsuya or Maya even have the cameos in P3 that everyone else in P2 had?

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Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Funky Valentine posted:

Do Tatsuya or Maya even have the cameos in P3 that everyone else in P2 had?

Unless you count the MMO characters being named after them, nope.

The P1 protagonist is mentioned a few times in P2 and almost appears on screen but that's the only time in the whole series a previous protagonist even kinda appears.

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