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Rytheric posted:so the story on this one was that i went to chicago to see a lady friend I had met from a vegan facebook page i was on for a while and went to do a week long fast with her while fixing up her condo and her car because she let things fall apart and her friends were the kind that would say they would do something, but never get around to do it. It was kind of bad. It's always nice when people learn from their extremely awful life-threatening mistakes.
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Rytheric posted:it was $2000, and that is on a payment plan through a random loan shark. This is it folks, he's gone full zaurg.
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Feb 28, 2021 02:07
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Woooooooah, we're half way there Woah-woah, pissing in a we-ell
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Rytheric posted:it was $2000, and that is on a payment plan through a random loan shark. Nobody on this deadass forum can actually help you if you do things like this. Rytheric posted:so the story on this one was that i went to chicago to see a lady friend I had met from a vegan facebook page i was on for a while and went to do a week long fast with her while fixing up her condo and her car because she let things fall apart and her friends were the kind that would say they would do something, but never get around to do it. It was kind of bad. You have no idea what you are doing and are incapable of doing this safely. You need to stop before you permanently injure yourself. Everything about your approach to both the land and the truck is fundamentally unsound because you are starting from a foundation of pureed banana and misinformation.
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Feb 28, 2021 02:09
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Rytheric posted:it was $2000, and that is on a payment plan through a random loan shark. This would be funnier as a joke if it wasn't indistinguishable from your non-joke things you say constantly.
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Feb 28, 2021 02:11
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Fermented Tinal posted:This is it folks, he's gone full zaurg. Ya know as I was reading this thread earlier today and thinking about it I knew we'd get there fast.
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Feb 28, 2021 02:12
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tater_salad posted:also carchat.. but anything that needs 300FTLbs of torque needs someone who knows how much is about 300ftlbs. I get it you're an entineerey type, but when it comes to bolts on your suspension 300ftlbs means.. get that fucker on goootntite. Any shop you take it to isn't going to be torque wrenching your shocks or your swaybar bushings etc. poo poo even at the factory I bet the robots or airguns the human robots use aren't nearly as calibrated as the worst torque wrench you can get from harbor freight THAT BEING SAID if you were redoing your intake/exhaust header studs, or your camshaft pullies that want something like 48ftlbs yeah you probably should get them exact. When something asks for 300ftlbs yeah just trust someone who's done it before (IE not you) i probably could do the shocks, however, id want to also take the radius arm and tie rods off so that i could get the bloody stabilization bar bushings on. i'm not comfortable driving above 55 without the stabilization bar, and if i have the radius arm and tie rods off and the stabilization bar out, i might as well replace the twin axle pivot bushings. It feels like if you do one part of the suspension, you may as well do the whole thing. it also feels like the vehicle was designed for all the bushings to fail at the same time and for it all to be replaced at the same time. like i think that was an intentional for maintenance. edit: i'm going to get it professionally done now. so dont worry. Rytheric fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Feb 28, 2021 |
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Feb 28, 2021 02:14
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Fermented Tinal posted:This is it folks, he's gone full zaurg. who is Zaurg, another Bigpeeler?
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Feb 28, 2021 02:21
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Rytheric posted:so the story on this one was that i went to chicago to see a lady friend I had met from a vegan facebook page i was on for a while and went to do a week long fast with her while fixing up her condo and her car because she let things fall apart and her friends were the kind that would say they would do something, but never get around to do it. It was kind of bad. I was specifically laughing at the idea of not being able to find a 300ftlb torque wrench, but I appreciate the irony in your worry about the danger of working on cars, yet somehow think you're gonna use two ropes to hoist multi-hundred pound timbers into place, fit the tenons into the mortises that way and not recognize the danger of that
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D-LINK posted:I was specifically laughing at the idea of not being able to find a 300ftlb torque wrench, but I appreciate the irony in your worry about the danger of working on cars, yet somehow think you're gonna use two ropes to hoist multi-hundred pound timbers into place, fit the tenons into the mortises that way and not recognize the danger of that A multi-hundred pound timber is easier to leverage and pick up side by side or drag. there aren't many vehicles i think i could lift up a side of. one is an order of magnitude heavier than the other and much less dense.
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hey rytheric could you please ask the lawyer you meet with about the concept of a spendthrift trust or similar financial vehicles
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Motronic posted:You've never done anything like this. You googled the poo poo out of it and learned some words. Rytheric posted:You're right. I haven't done something like that. My friend said he was going to talk me through it. I wanted to get it professionally done first, but my friend was like nah man you got this. Hmmmm Rytheric posted:A multi-hundred pound timber is easier to leverage and pick up side by side or drag. there aren't many vehicles i think i could lift up a side of. one is an order of magnitude heavier than the other and much less dense. A reminder that you just got called out for this. It took two minutes for someone to pop in and immediately know you had just googled something to throw out some keywords. You've said yourself haven't actually done this before, you have basically just watched some sweet youtubes with acoustic indie background music as people hew lumber in the snow. No one is saying it's impossible, but doing the precise work to carve out the pieces for timber framing, let alone lifting and placing everything, is not trivial and is not a skill you just wing. I don't even do new construction, just railings and fencing and such and I'm wincing at this, it's no wonder more experienced folks are frothing. You're an environmental guy, this whole thread reads to us like if I told you I saw online we need to restore the wetlands, so I rented a bobcat, plowed down part of an old growth forest, and threw asian carp and kudzu into the muddy hole left over. I've healed the Everglades! threelemmings fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Feb 28, 2021 |
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Fermented Tinal posted:This is it folks, he's gone full zaurg. stop it goddamnit, let the thread titles have a moment to breathe 
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Rytheric posted:who is Zaurg, another Bigpeeler? zaurg is another goon. He’s the basis for these iconic tweets: https://twitter.com/dril/status/384408932061417472?s=21 https://twitter.com/dril/status/384411458794057728?s=21
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Rytheric posted:payment plan through a random loan shark. anyone who unbookmarked this thread is a moron. 
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Mr. Nice! posted:zaurg is another goon. He’s the basis for these iconic tweets: 
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Rytheric posted:it was $2000, and that is on a payment plan through a random loan shark. I was going to ask how you even find a loan shark, then I realized they probably seek you out through some kind of 7th sense.
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Feb 28, 2021 03:26
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ellie the beep posted:hey rytheric could you please ask the lawyer you meet with about the concept of a spendthrift trust or similar financial vehicles Vehicles, financial and not, seem to have a thing against Ry.
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Was wonderhangers not candles. That first thread was just goon in the well pissing ending as he gets dolphin season tickets and goes to a tail gate, as his wife obviously hates him and spends all their money on "gifts". Oh the loving pool table to. Then a second thread where it was obvious the wife was cheating on him, he had an idea she was, he lived on the couch and she was gone all the time so it was him and the kid. Then just endless pages of get a divorce. Then she winds up pregnant and it had to have been the one time she let him gently caress her and it's obviously his guys!!!!!! I forget the third one but she left him I think? Ending with him buying tons of bitcoins on credit cards just as it crashed lol then banned again. I didn't follow the moneyball 4th one though.
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threelemmings posted:Hmmmm Oh no I didn't just Google something. I've had my friend point out the parts. He's been under the GroverTruk with me several times as I ask him "hey whats this? It looks bad. Is it something I need to worry about?" If he wasn't available I looked them up in my manuals. I always buy various manuals for the vehicles I buy. As I was restoring things I'd always consort the manual, him, and the econoline Facebook group im a part of to see if they have similar issues and if they've solved them. As for the rest. It does sound like they are saying it's impossible. It's not. It's just a matter of if I think its worth pushing through or learning. Which I would push through and learn how to do it.
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Feb 28, 2021 03:49
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Rytheric posted:it was $2000, and that is on a payment plan through a random loan shark. 
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taqueso posted:I was going to ask how you even find a loan shark, then I realized they probably seek you out through some kind of 7th sense. This is easy. Almost everywhere you go that's trying to sell things that aren't on amazon or something is starting to offer credit like it's the new thing to do and nothing could ever possibly go wrong. Like etsy will allow you to pay off any art over a span of two months and synchronize it with your paychecks kind of like a rent-to-own center. It has definitely helped me fund several of my artistic friends I guess I basically did a rent to own on a telescope.
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Rytheric posted:It's just a matter of if I think its worth pushing through or learning. Which I would push through and learn how to do it. This is an excellent attitude for life's problems. Just keep pushing through and you'll learn eventually. This applies to everything. Keep pushing.
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Rytheric posted:Oh no I didn't just Google something. I've had my friend point out the parts. He's been under the GroverTruk with me several times as I ask him "hey whats this? It looks bad. Is it something I need to worry about?" If he wasn't available I looked them up in my manuals. I always buy various manuals for the vehicles I buy. As I was restoring things I'd always consort the manual, him, and the econoline Facebook group im a part of to see if they have similar issues and if they've solved them. Bruh, you said an E350 had an axle in the front that you had to pull and that the rear shock was bent Unless you've got a unicorn on your hands, that's a RWD truck that has leaf springs, so whatever you've been learning from this friend of yours is bullshit that you shouldn't be listening to
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The Door Frame posted:Bruh, you said an E350 had an axle in the front that you had to pull and that the rear shock was bent I said it had twin I beam axles. The front has an axle for each wheel that articulate around a pivot bushing in the center. It is RWD with a leaf springs and rear shocks. I dont see what the issue. I will post some pictures of GroverTruks underbelly when I get home from work. Rytheric fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Feb 28, 2021 |
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Rytheric posted:Gotcha. See I couldnt tell with Motronics humour if he was more concerned about me ripping the axles out or the cinderblocks. I could tell it easier with elment80s humour. Seeing a vehicle up on cinderblocks isn't uncommon in west virginia. So was kinda neutral about it. Figured I could distribute the load well enough. No one is joking when actual experienced car people are flat out telling you putting ANYTHING on cinderblocks - especially a truck - is a truly stupid idea that gets people killed. Just because a bunch of very stupid people do it doesnt mean you should even contemplate it. The last page and a half hasnt made for particularly good reading to say the least. quote:well everything was going good until i had to tighten one of the caliper bolts that required roughly 200 ft lbs Okay wait, what vehicle was this? Because 200ft/lb is 271Nm what were you tightening because nothing under 19mm needs anything close to that on a brake system and on most cars caliper bolts are more like 13/14mm and they cant take that much torque CAT INTERCEPTOR fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Feb 28, 2021 |
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Rytheric posted:I dont see what the issue. You don’t know how to do anything but you think you do and the disconnect between the two is likely to have serious long term negative consequences up to and including death or dismemberment. People feel empathy and as a general rule don’t want others to hurt themselves. You are funny in the way that things that are absurd are funny and seem to genuinely care about others. The first is the issue. The second is why folks keep telling you what the issue is. Hope that clears things up. Well, cheers!
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Rytheric posted:I said it had twin I beam axles. The front has an axle for each wheel that articulate around a pivot bushing in the center. It is RWD and a leaf spring and rear shocks. I dont see what the issue. See, that makes me think you're googling things even more, because, this is what you said in response to me specifically asking about the leaf springs Rytheric posted:Oh the suspension is shot. One of my rear shocks is bent in from something. I was in the process of replacing my stabilization bar bushings when I realized all the bushings were shot. I was wanting to drop $2000 to go ahead and replace all the bushings, shocks, and brakes along with calipers. But this land thing distracted me. If I had gotten the geo tracker I could have switched out the suspension at my leisure and drove the tracker to work. And then the axles part comes when you're talking about how little work you've done on cars and how you were going to put it on cinderblocks so you could get underneath it Rytheric posted:His mentality was that there is nothing that needs done can't be done yourself and you'll get to know your vehicle better. Which is true. I know a lot more about the vehicle know. I have mapped out where everything is the lbs to torque it to and such. I do get the Hanes and Chiltons manuals for every vehicle I own. I've replaced sensors, redone the vacuum lines and the like. But I'd have to essentially put the vehical up on cinderblocks and rip the front axles out to get things done easily. Then I'd have to limp it to a shop to tighten the radius arm bolts because they need torqued to 300lbs. My friend use to work on hummers and such in the army then got his associates. Forgive me for being skeptical (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Relax, after stepping on a mine and losing both legs, I am now much more cautious about navigating mine fields. In fact, for my next mine field expedition, I'm taking four bowling balls to throw around and check for mines.
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builds character posted:You don’t know how to do anything but you think you do and the disconnect between the two is likely to have serious long term negative consequences up to and including death or dismemberment.
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The Door Frame posted:See, that makes me think you're googling things even more, because, this is what you said in response to me specifically asking about the leaf springs All those statements you highlighted are true. My rear shock is bent in. I do need to take off the front axles as I suspect the pivot bushings are bad. Things will make more sense when I post pictures give me 30 minutes
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Rytheric posted:All those statements you highlighted are true. My rear shock is bent in. I do need to take off the front axles as I suspect the pivot bushings are bad. Things will make more sense when I post pictures give me 30 minutes *frantically starts googling GroverTruk, bent shocks, and pivot bushings*
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Rytheric posted:All those statements you highlighted are true. My rear shock is bent in. I do need to take off the front axles as I suspect the pivot bushings are bad. Things will make more sense when I post pictures give me 30 minutes I'm well aware of what a F350's suspension looks like, I had to maintain the work trucks, and I'll take it on good faith that the E350 is the same
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:No one is joking when actual experienced car people are flat out telling you putting ANYTHING on cinderblocks - especially a truck - is a truly stupid idea that gets people killed. Just because a bunch of very stupid people do it doesnt mean you should even contemplate it. Putting a car up on blocks is a bad idea. Putting a 1 ton frame box truck up on them, that you built living quarters out of is some next, next level poo poo. Ry, your 2wd truck doesn't have axles in the front, the things you're talking about are probably the control arms and/or hubs.
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The Door Frame posted:I'm well aware of what a F350's suspension looks like, I had to maintain the work trucks, and I'll take it on good faith that the E350 is the same And now we peer into the dark, mysterious recesses of the GroverTruk underbelly. Timg-ed for your pleasure.  Here you will find the unicorn rear axle package of rears shocks and leaf springs. Notice the top of the shock is bent in alittle. Gives it a little more friction to prevent portside tip-overs.  Here you see the GroverTruk exhaust just... ends... it just farts onto the road underneath the GroverPorch as it roams from one place to another.  Now we see something new and out of place. A new catalytic converter. The last one had a hole in it.  Typical shock and spring combo. Nothing to see here except rust.  Now we have the mythical twin I beam axles that articulate around pivot bushings that are offset from the center.  And now we have where the front tied all together where the radius arm meets the front shock meets the spring and meets one of the front axles. Notice the lack of bearing on the shock. Yep that needs to go. There is also the case of the missing stabilization bar. Don't worry it's in the closet. Rytheric fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Feb 28, 2021 |
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The Door Frame posted:Bruh, you said an E350 had an axle in the front that you had to pull and that the rear shock was bent Are you mixing up shocks and struts? A vehicle with leaf springs would have shocks. This isn't a model T we're talking about here. The Door Frame posted:I'm well aware of what a F350's suspension looks like, I had to maintain the work trucks, and I'll take it on good faith that the E350 is the same Clearly you aren't if you think an F350 doesn't have rear shock absorbers. corgski fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Feb 28, 2021 |
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I've never looked under a car in my entire life, so I assume it's a healthy amount of rust on everything there.
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Gramps posted:anyone who unbookmarked this thread is a moron.
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