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Srice posted:Honestly instead of grinding JP a bunch early on it's better to just keep going through the story since you'll be drowning in jobs soon enough. You’re right but there’s something about that grinding wheel that really activates my brain worms. I love this.
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I got the Thief Asterisk. Good costume, gently caress that boss fight. Holy poo poo.
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Feb 28, 2021 16:30
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Theif asterisk was the fight in the first demo right? Is the fight significantly different than that? Also I was wondering does anyone know if this has new game+?
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Feb 28, 2021 16:38
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Theif asterisk was the fight in the first demo right? Is the fight significantly different than that? It has New Game+ with options for what you want to carry over.
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Feb 28, 2021 16:48
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Theif asterisk was the fight in the first demo right? Is the fight significantly different than that? Didn't play the Demo, but in my experience I was up against a very fast prick who would freely counter almost everything I do that wasn't using attack spells with a life drain that would do near as much damage as I just healed/did to him, countered Martial Arts AND Physical abilities so he got dibs on ya twice if you went that route without leaning on the fire powers, and to top it off he has a chance to steal BP whenever you default. Complete pain in the rear end. I got fed up and just poisoned him and settled for throwing my arsenal of attack items at him until he choked on it.
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Feb 28, 2021 16:52
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Just got through the prologue, random thoughts Thank goodness they kept battle speed up The fact you can't see turn order anymore is a huge letdown I really dislike how they made buffs/debuffs so much worse. Not sure if it's worth doing when you need like 5+ turns of BP to get them to max effectiveness. Maybe it's just the first jobs, but all the skills seem really bland. Thankfully JP needed per job level doesn't seem to increase exponentially anymore, I had fire 2 before the first boss. The real fun in this game is having all the abilities and voltroning them together, not grinding JP
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Feb 28, 2021 17:00
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Just got this game, I loving loved BD1 and thought BS was good but a bit less inspired. Haven’t loaded it up yet, but from what I hear the battle system is still good and the art style is identical. Question is, how’s the plot and party banter? Is it on the level of BD1 or BS? Anything I should be worried about going in, e.g. places where it’s worse than previous games?
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Feb 28, 2021 17:07
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Seth's EN voice actor sounds like a better-directed Rex from Xenoblade Chronicles 2 to me (it's not them apparently).raditts posted:You can buy two types of "damage all enemies" items in the shop in the first town. They pretty much melt the first asterisk bosses. I didn't think those showed up until after the fight, though forage being kinda silly had me finding similar items at level 6-7 (which would be overkill for that fight but, eh). Got to the 2nd town last night and decided to do some JP grind to master freelancer. Went back to the starting area beach, scared a half dozen enemies in to a corner and then popped a fresh fish. End result was 7 fights, 3x rewards and something like 1k JP  Did it a few more times and the highest it got to was just over 1.3k JP for one of the fights (which I'm assuming was then boosted by 1.2-1.7x for everyone) which is pretty hilarious considering those fights are just a complete non-threat with ok gear and level 8-9. Or you can just do it as soon as you have all 4 characters since you'll also have sloan to keep you alive and help murder everything but I'm dumb and didn't do that. It seems like the bonus caps at 3x and maybe 10 consecutive fights? I never went over 10 fights even when I chained 8 enemies with a bait food active at night (though I did end up with most/all of those 10 waves being 5-6 enemies each). Srice posted:Honestly instead of grinding JP a bunch early on it's better to just keep going through the story since you'll be drowning in jobs soon enough. Yes but I want to grind those jobs at 1.7x speed  glassyalabolas posted:It has New Game+ with options for what you want to carry over. This is the best way to NG+. Except when you have to spend points on it like in Tales games.
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Feb 28, 2021 17:13
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Pollyanna posted:Just got this game, I loving loved BD1 and thought BS was good but a bit less inspired. Haven’t loaded it up yet, but from what I hear the battle system is still good and the art style is identical. Question is, how’s the plot and party banter? Is it on the level of BD1 or BS? I'm still pretty early on so the plot's still pretty basic (gotta get the four crystals before the bad guys do!), but so far the party banter has been great. Plenty of little "party talk" skits you unlock along the way as well. One of the big changes/downgrades from the previous games is that you can no longer adjust the encounter rate or independently adjust the EXP/JP/money drop rate. Encounters are now visible on the field so you can avoid them that way, and how much EXP/JP you get from battle is tied to your difficulty level (though you can still change that any time). The combat system also handles turn order differently. In Bravely Default/Second, you enter commands for your whole party at once, then the round plays out. In Bravely Default 2, you enter commands for a party member when their turn comes up, and there are only vague indicators of whose turn will come up when. It creates a different pace/feeling for the battles that can take a little getting used to compared to Default/Second. It's something plenty of other JRPGs do of course (maybe even most?) but still, a change from the previous games.
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Feb 28, 2021 17:24
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the one thing currently bothering me is that I haven't gotten a healer job since White Mage and I've already mastered that one long ago. Putting White Mage as a sub job obviously will still let you heal, but all the other jobs except Bard seem to have pretty bad stats for it making the heals weak
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Feb 28, 2021 17:45
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Got a Large XP Orb from the Ship Mode and now I have a level 21 character and 3 12s.
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Feb 28, 2021 17:47
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When it comes to JP grinding, assuming I didn't get JP Up/Up and Up in the prologue, when's another good opportunity to grind out those Freelancer levels on everyone? I assume I'm going to want those abilities sooner than later.
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Feb 28, 2021 17:47
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Your Computer posted:the one thing currently bothering me is that I haven't gotten a healer job since White Mage and I've already mastered that one long ago. Putting White Mage as a sub job obviously will still let you heal, but all the other jobs except Bard seem to have pretty bad stats for it making the heals weak You don't get any other healing job until Chapter 3.
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Feb 28, 2021 17:47
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I managed to beat a rare enemy at level 13, without excessive jp grinding  ! It was the snake with 20k health in a sidepath of the underground waterway. It wasn't all that difficult, when compared to an asterisk boss fight, just time consuming.  
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Feb 28, 2021 17:50
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^burtle posted:Got a Large XP Orb from the Ship Mode and now I have a level 21 character and 3 12s. lol this would drive me mad
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Feb 28, 2021 18:20
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I wish the ship was a menu option and not something I need to travel to the first town every morning to get my stuff.
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Feb 28, 2021 18:28
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Harrow posted:When it comes to JP grinding, assuming I didn't get JP Up/Up and Up in the prologue, when's another good opportunity to grind out those Freelancer levels on everyone? I assume I'm going to want those abilities sooner than later. It really doesn't have to be in the prologue and you can do it anytime after; I did it immediately after getting to the city in chapter 1. You do need to do forage farming, which is actually quicker after you lose the support character in the prologue since they can end battles early by attacking. 1) battle low level enemy like a goblin in the first area. Leave one goblin alive, have all characters forage, and tape down your A button (have cursor set to memory) and watch tv for a bit. What you're looking for is a stockpile of throwing items (stones, throwing knives, throwing axes, etc). 2) hornets in the first map drop insect nectar which increase consecutive battles with them. Use that and get into battle with the hornet, Brave then use two throwing items to kill all enemies each wave. This gets you between 100 to 300 jp and more insect nectar. 3) repeat until mastered freelancer. Edit: don't really see why this couldn't take care of all your classes, but a better way will probably come up later in the game that takes less time. PageMaster fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Feb 28, 2021 |
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Feb 28, 2021 18:30
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PageMaster posted:It really doesn't have to be in the prologue and you can do it anytime after; I did it immediately after getting to the city in chapter 1. You do need to do forage farming, which is actually quicker after you lose the support character in the prologue since they can end battles early by attacking. Guess I know what I'm gonna do during my work meetings tomorrow No downside to just passively gaining +70% JP on everyone for as long as I can spare the ability slots.
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Feb 28, 2021 18:42
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I wish the ship was a menu option and not something I need to travel to the first town every morning to get my stuff. I am still early in but the first two towns both have ship people.
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Feb 28, 2021 19:00
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I wish the ship was a menu option and not something I need to travel to the first town every morning to get my stuff. There's a shop to pick it up in the second town, and presumably every town after.
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Feb 28, 2021 19:02
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I think the card game just spoiled a story beat for me about the 2nd city by showing me Prince Castor's card where he's clearly in some sort of Berseker/Barbarian asterisk costume. I knew something like that was coming (he's shifty as hell) but still funny to get it revealed like that.
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Feb 28, 2021 19:06
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I wish the ship was a menu option and not something I need to travel to the first town every morning to get my stuff. she's in Savalon, as well, so I assume she's in other towns
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Feb 28, 2021 19:22
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Oh ok. I must have missed it when looking around. Good to know.
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Feb 28, 2021 19:26
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I really enjoy how, because you don't kill Asterisk holders after their fights, you get to see them reduced to whatever their Freelancer outfit would be after you steal their Asterisk. It's like stealing an enemy's clothes with Locke in FF6 
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Feb 28, 2021 19:30
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Harrow posted:I really enjoy how, because you don't kill Asterisk holders after their fights, you get to see them reduced to whatever their Freelancer outfit would be after you steal their Asterisk. It's like stealing an enemy's clothes with Locke in FF6 The best part about it is how it counts both ways so somebody you might not expect of having any game can whip out a rock and start wildly kicking your rear end. It's neat.
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Feb 28, 2021 19:49
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How does everyone get such high battle chains?
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Feb 28, 2021 20:38
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The load times are a pain but this is really growing on me. I kinda love the visuals now. The evil Prime Minister changing into that flashy monk outfit made me loving lose it, I was totally expecting like time mage or something and then he goes into full glammed up kung fu. Goddamn what.
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Feb 28, 2021 21:00
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raditts posted:You... did finish Bravely Second, right? Oh my god, you're right, I completely blanked on that game. A lot of it wasn't memorable at all to me, and now I'm realizing how long ago it came out. I mostly only remember grinding up ninjas to be super broken.
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Feb 28, 2021 21:40
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stev posted:Lmao I just gave that character back and it didn't even occur to me to do any of that. Ah well. It's not like this game is Dark Souls difficulty or anything so just play the game as intended and give yourself a little challenge your first time through, at least. You can always just go back to the first wilderness area later and leave one weak enemy alive while your party forages until you have unstoppable murder machines. I am kinda curious though as to whether the first "you're supposed to lose" story battle against Adam is theoretically winnable though, since he does seem to have a finite amount of HP even if that amount is 99999.
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Feb 28, 2021 21:43
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What's the best use for Bard? It seems like a really good subjob since it doesn't seem to rely on stats at all, is that accurate?
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Feb 28, 2021 21:45
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Thanks to whoever mentioned grinding JP early on to max Freelancer, that was not really all that bad. I’d rather grind a bit now so I don’t have to later. I also spent a ton of battles spamming Forage and just letting the guest kill the enemies so now I have tons and tons of items. Hopefully I can keep rolling through the story now without getting stuck on any hard bosses. The game is definitely charming so far and feels a lot more like the earlier games than the original demo did which is nice. I’m looking forward to continuing on and seeing what kind of weird, multi-dimensional hijinks my teams gets into.
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Feb 28, 2021 21:55
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Caidin posted:The best part about it is how it counts both ways so somebody you might not expect of having any game can whip out a rock and start wildly kicking your rear end. It's neat. Yeah absolutely. I had a rough idea how the end of the prologue was going to go down, but then they whipped out an Asterisk and I genuinely laughed out loud in surprise
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Feb 28, 2021 21:56
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Harrow posted:What's the best use for Bard? It seems like a really good subjob since it doesn't seem to rely on stats at all, is that accurate? If you are maining the class the buffs last a turn longer. In my experience so far Bard buffs have been really really good in boss fights.
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Feb 28, 2021 22:03
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Feb 28, 2021 22:19
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Bard pairs real nice with the debuff class you get later since a lot of the stuff that affects the songs affects the debuffs as well. Also, Bard's faster than White Mage, so if you sub it you'll be able to get the heals out more often at the trade off of being a little squisher.
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Feb 28, 2021 22:21
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I think Bard's base likelihood to be targeted is higher than a lot of classes though so they might require some babysitting.
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Feb 28, 2021 22:24
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I can't say I'm a fan of so far every boss' gimmick being "if you hit our weakness you get countered in some way" That seems like an interesting gimmick for a specific boss but fights turning into finding ways to NOT hit weak points is...weird?
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Feb 28, 2021 22:44
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Just made it to Chapter 4 with about 25 hours clocked on Hard. I was apprehensive of the story's pacing, but things started to pick up in Chapter 3. Some of the more useful job passives so far: (Beastmaster) MP Saver - Reduces MP costs by 20%. Stacks with other sources of MP reducing equipment. (Beastmaster) Raw Power - Increases physical damage by 10% per action. Max Braving will skyrocket your final attack's damage. (Gambler) Rare Talent - Rare item drop rate up by 10%. Stacks with each party member. (Red Mage) Revenge - 25% chance of gaining 1 BP when attacked (Pictomancer) Sub-Job BP Saver - Reduces BP cost of active sub-job abilities by 1. Great for spamming Monk's Pressure Point (boss killer) or Berserker's Crescent Moon (trash clearer) (Swordmaster) 2 Hands Are Better Than 1 - FF's Doublehand. Stats of your main hand weapon is increased by 1.4x. Your character's combat stance changes too, which is a nice touch. (Spiritmaster) Sub-Job Specialty 1 - Your sub-job's 1st specialty is unlocked.
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Feb 28, 2021 22:48
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Absolutely dont sleep on your abilities, especially in boss fights. Fighting the bard, braving my monk into invigorate and then spamming the higher damage lower hit % ability, seth was doing 1200 a hit. Totally nasty.
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Should I be selling things like Bug Wings, Dwarf Teeth, etc. or is there something to save them for?
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