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Outrail posted:Without wanting to traumatize posters too much: What's the actual best method for document control? I like having the date but more than one edit a day turns into 20210226a bullshit. Just Filenamev01 through v99 seems the most straight forward and idiot proof (hah). No 'final' version, just pdf it or call it final when it's really done. All prior pdfs or 'finals' get deleted. ISO 9001 had formed a vague DC system where there are three pillars to system document tracking: [Document Name] [Revision Number] [Revision Date] As a consultant, I work with multiple clients so I have to add their company name like this [Fisting Factory Ltd] Project Quality Plan Rev. 1 02.04.2020.docx Some companies use: [Document Code] [Name] [Revision] [Date] But I hate that system because it just adds one unnecessary information since nobody uses the codes (I think it's only relevant when you have like hundreds of specific operations procedure). The standard documents have a "revision history sheet" after the cover page to keep track what version you are using if it's a persistently updated document.
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On the subject of estimates had a request last week that wanted a cost/time estimate ASAP, as their management needed to know. It was a new type of request that would probably take 2 weeks if a vendor went at maximum speed and I had nothing else to do, but I declined to provide a guess until I at least confirm the vendor is still in business. Last time I had to deal with a team (HR) that loved arbitrarily timelines they liked the idea of releasing something on January 1st. That is a holiday and no one is here, it could go out Monday the 4th and I am made that clear and they agreed to it months in advance, fast forward to them yelling at my boss about me dropping the ball on our promised New Years release. Next project they have will be handed off to one of the team do-nothings and HR can enjoy hearing about their untested broken content they just provided to thousands of employees.
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as part of the KPI i delivered to my department head, i included a sum of $165,000 verbally in a Zoom meeting. after the meeting they asked me to clarify the number. I Slacked them "$165000." they replied: i don't understand. I broke it up: $165,000 They asked: do you mean 165k?? Yeah binch i mean 165000 USD are you drunk? how do you not understand arabic numbers and are head of compliance?
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Mar 1, 2021 06:36
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Somehow one of the other departments responsible had a loving “the poison for Kuzco” moment when linking an image to a link for over a loving week after explaining exactly what needed to be linked where and when.
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Mar 1, 2021 09:02
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emo-ignorance posted:A partner at my company (who is an rear end in a top hat) personally called an entry-level job candidate to reject her for using the wrong form of "they're/their/there" in her resume.
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Mar 1, 2021 09:43
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Domus posted:Have you considered working for Conrad’s? It’s literally moving tires around your city from one store to another, to make numbers look better. Same thing here, I quit a job with a similar outlook a few months ago, and I am not looking back. I burn bridges with HR telling them that my last 1% raise was like spitting in my face.
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Mar 1, 2021 11:20
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One of the supervisors at my work set up a Discord server for a place that co-workers can play games together on off duty. They are encouraging me to join it as well, but the people who are in it are mostly in their early 20s while I am in my mid 30s. I really don't need to have co-workers ask me questions off the clock because it's all they do to the supervisors. We had a employee told he was fired over Xbox Live Messenger a few years ago and it caused a massive poo poo show in HR with head office, resulting in the supervisor and HR Manager being canned. I also don't need to reinforce the fact that I have nothing in common with the vast majority of the people I work with. The few facebook groups I have seen some of my co-workers in are just consistent porn, racist memes and conspiracy theories.
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Mar 1, 2021 15:07
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TacticalHoodie posted:We had a employee told he was fired over Xbox Live Messenger a few years ago and it caused a massive poo poo show in HR with head office, resulting in the supervisor and HR Manager being canned. Wow, the ultimate trash talk message.
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Mar 1, 2021 15:44
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Dick move or not, an entry-level candidate actually being called personally to be rejected by a senior employee, and not only that, being told exactly why they failed is probably better praxis than 95% of companies lol.
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Mar 1, 2021 16:05
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Lmao just def heard someone on an interview being asked a likely illegal question hahahaha great
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Mar 1, 2021 16:10
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This is nitpicky but I have a coworker who is high in rank but not in my chain of command. He and I have the same direct supervisor and he doesn't understand why he can't boss me around. Plus, he's the type of person that will abandon something the moment it doesn't go perfectly. We have to practically beg him to revisit something even when it was simple as a network hiccup.
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Mar 1, 2021 16:16
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Jeza posted:Dick move or not, an entry-level candidate actually being called personally to be rejected by a senior employee, and not only that, being told exactly why they failed is probably better praxis than 95% of companies lol. Yeah, job hunting is so demoralizing as you send out hundreds of resumes into an uncaring and unapproachable system, hearing nothing back for every 100 you sent out and having no idea why 99 of your resumes are being rejected probably by some algorithm that's unknowable, actually having a human call you back, even for a rejection, harkens back to some distant non hellworld economic reality.
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Mar 1, 2021 16:19
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Gantt charts are garbage in garbage out. Except directors are 100% fine if garbage comes out because they have like 20 of these on their desk so a list of red and green circles is all they need to proclaim they are very scientific data driven managers and collect their exit bonus on the way out when the projects all fall over and fail at the last minute. A well managed Gantt chart with accompanying well defined project plan is a beautiful thing like others are mentioning but to be anything other than a cargo culted project accessory they need no less than: trustable estimates (bonus if comparable to past completions with an honest discussion of why this time might be different), exact useful completion and exit criteria for steps and phases, and collaborative reviews in the creation and execution of it. Changing track to document naming if you have a real need to care i.e. strictly controlled documents you should already have a document maintenance bible or else it should be your job to write one. If your need is real enough you could also get a CMS for it (including hell implementations of sharepoint in this umbrella lol). Otherwise chaos reigns, I'm just going to tell you to send me the latest. But seriously sharepoint is... It's not good but maybe acceptable for especially collaboration. My dumb job thing is we have a sharepoint and we still use V1 V2 in file names and have a loving archive folder for the old ones. Sharepoint is doing that for you you motherfuckers! Also needing to upload spec docs in both this project sharepoint (which is a dumb directory without workflows) and a software lifecycle CMS (which has workflows we completely ignore) because logging into the lifecycle system is too hard. Also also they have some hosed up sharepoint layout and I sometimes find the raw link into the directory and praise Jesus because goddamnn holy gently caress the layout is like 5 file directories framed out in one page with the file names and sharepoint action buttons cut off from the framing, serious mickey mouse poo poo.
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Mar 1, 2021 16:27
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A Strange Aeon posted:Yeah, job hunting is so demoralizing as you send out hundreds of resumes into an uncaring and unapproachable system, hearing nothing back for every 100 you sent out and having no idea why 99 of your resumes are being rejected probably by some algorithm that's unknowable, actually having a human call you back, even for a rejection, harkens back to some distant non hellworld economic reality. It's awful and soul sucking and for most, possible the 99th percentile of people, it would be better to just have a soviet system of 100% employment. I mean, for any given office job that's typing and sitting in a cubicle what does it matter? gently caress when I graduated from technical university I would've loved to just show up and go "Hello, comrade Jobplacement recommended me to you, I have skills you need and I can stand being here". Added bonus of no one having to starve because they don't get called back for the 200th time. gently caress interviewing and job hunting is awful.
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Mar 1, 2021 16:29
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teen witch posted:Lmao just def heard someone on an interview being asked a likely illegal question hahahaha great Gotta ask - how bad?
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Mar 1, 2021 16:31
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I've applied for multiple jobs with the state and county, and have been interviewed several times, and even though they are own policies say they should contact you when the positions been filled theyve only done it once. Ive even been in the position where I was emailing the guy who would be my supervisor, who kept saying "were still waiting on HR but your name is on the shortlist, check back next week" until he eventually ghosted me
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Mar 1, 2021 16:40
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When I worked for the NHS there was an odd internal economy going on. For our training sessions the cafeteria provided some basic sandwiches and a cup of instant coffee crystals. And charged for it. Quite a bit. No clue how any of this worked. Different parts of the hospital overbilling other parts of the hospital for their services is weird.
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Mar 1, 2021 16:43
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titty_baby_ posted:I've applied for multiple jobs with the state and county, and have been interviewed several times, and even though there own policies say they should contact you when the positions been filled theyve only done it once. Ive even been in the position where I was emailing the guy who would be my supervisor, who kept saying "were still waiting on HR but your name is on the shortlist, check back next week" until he eventually ghosted me I think we know why, buddy. 
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Mar 1, 2021 16:45
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SkyeAuroline posted:Gotta ask - how bad? How old someone is, point blank. I think it’s illegal here but it’s a particular situation that involves multiple jurisdictions. Still, poo poo move.
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Mar 1, 2021 16:47
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Jeza posted:Dick move or not, an entry-level candidate actually being called personally to be rejected by a senior employee, and not only that, being told exactly why they failed is probably better praxis than 95% of companies lol. I agree with being told why you’ve been rejected, but I’d much rather hear it over email. When I get a call from a place I applied to, it makes me think it’ll be good news.
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Nah, that's pretty standard across government. Probably funding an external contractor to provide the basic services who need to price gouge to ensure their 50% slice off the top is worth having.
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Mar 1, 2021 16:48
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Our hosed up hell society has successfully internalized "I don't want to hire you" and "you are fired" as "I wish for you to starve to death" and deals with this by just finding the least empathetic ways to get this message across instead of dealing with the root cause: making sure people don't starve to death while we find the best way they can contribute to society.
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endless meetings, 2+ year long product dev cycles that should probably take 3 months, "startup culture" IE a really cool building (that has been basically empty for the last year) with all the stereotypical startup stuff like a bar and an arcade, way too many employees that nobody knows what they actually do we got bought out several years ago so it's slowly morphing into standard corpo drone atmosphere. I'm remote basically permanently so I get to shitpost in peace most of the time, but I'm not convinced it's sustainable
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Mar 1, 2021 16:49
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Jeza posted:I think we know why, buddy. You'd be surprised at the typos that make it into govt documents. I'd be prefect
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Mar 1, 2021 16:54
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teen witch posted:How old someone is, point blank. I think it’s illegal here but it’s a particular situation that involves multiple jurisdictions. Still, poo poo move. In some (or all?) EU countries it is standard to have your picture on your CV. That is not only annoying but also makes printing what will likely get thrown into the bin (or if you're lucky shredded) much more expensive as colour is expected.
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Mar 1, 2021 16:55
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Bright Bart posted:In some (or all?) EU countries it is standard to have your picture on your CV. That is not only annoying but also makes printing what will likely get thrown into the bin (or if you're lucky shredded) much more expensive as colour is expected. Oh do I know. I also don’t put my image on my CV as I’m very not white, less risk that way.
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Mar 1, 2021 16:56
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teen witch posted:How old someone is, point blank. I think it’s illegal here but it’s a particular situation that involves multiple jurisdictions. Still, poo poo move. You can ask if they're over 18 legally, because employing minors is a whole other can of worms. If it's not that sort of situation then they're definitely not doing themselves any favors by asking.
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Mar 1, 2021 16:57
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Bright Bart posted:In some (or all?) EU countries it is standard to have your picture on your CV. That is not only annoying but also makes printing what will likely get thrown into the bin (or if you're lucky shredded) much more expensive as colour is expected. Huh I didn't know that, that's interesting. In my limited non-management role looking at applicants I don't think any have included a photo. My MegaCorp has many meeting rooms but it can be tough to get a room on short notice. Once in the cafeteria I was on break when a manager sat down with an employee at the next table and began a disciplinary meeting for a fairly serious violation. It was bizarre as you'd think he could have waited to get a room with a door, as I don't think public humiliation is a part of the process. After a minute when I realized what was happening I got up and moved.
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Mar 1, 2021 17:03
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Bright Bart posted:No clue how any of this worked. Different parts of the hospital overbilling other parts of the hospital for their services is weird. A client of ours can't ever change out the crap database they make us use, because their department would have to spend £100k on internal IT project management, which would be spending twice as much as the database costs to hire people who know nothing about it. teen witch posted:Lmao just def heard someone on an interview being asked a likely illegal question hahahaha great I found an almost certainly illegal policy today! But it was immediately pulled and will probably get fixed.
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Mar 1, 2021 17:06
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emo-ignorance posted:A partner at my company (who is an rear end in a top hat) personally called an entry-level job candidate to reject her for using the wrong form of "they're/their/there" in her resume. guarantee this petty tyrant can't write for poo poo but thinks they can because they've memorized a short list of arbitrary and unhelpful grammar/spelling rules
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Mar 1, 2021 17:38
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Had a coworker who got caught playing games on his work computer, not hard to detect with an open office plan. Instead of giving him a formal warning not to do that, his manager moved his desk so he had to sit in her cubicle like he was a first grader who wouldn't stop talking during storytime. Both people involved were four decades out of grade school. Whenever I needed to talk to that manager at their desk they'd be constantly interrupting to refresh their home security multi-camera footage from their McMansion in an ultra safe neighborhood. They weren't expecting trouble, or a package, or checking on a pet.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:whole generations of people who think writing can be reduced to what the charlotte's web guy said all I know is there is a whole generation of people who learned to type on typewriters and will insist on putting double spaces between every word as if that were valid and not moronic e: woah what the actual gently caress, the forums deleted all my double spaces?? stop auto-correcting my boomer humour 
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Bright Bart posted:In some (or all?) EU countries it is standard to have your picture on your CV. That is not only annoying but also makes printing what will likely get thrown into the bin (or if you're lucky shredded) much more expensive as colour is expected. I know that in the UK including a photo will commonly get you binned unread. I had never considered that it might just be to keep the Europeans out.
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teen witch posted:How old someone is, point blank. I think it’s illegal here but it’s a particular situation that involves multiple jurisdictions. Still, poo poo move. Meanwhile I need to ask a bunch of inappropriate questions to make sure they fit into 'radicalized demographics' as defined by a federal grant system. Are you under 30? A woman with stem degree? Lgbtq+? First Nations? An immigrant? All of the above? Great! I don't care but you get the job! Sorry about invading your privacy! Your government told me to.
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Mar 1, 2021 18:04
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Outrail posted:My favourites interview questions just turn the standard bullshit back on them. It's a good reminder that you're interviewing them as much as they're interviewing you and lets you know if you're just filling a hole or they really want you there. . I used the first 3 today, they were great. Thanks man. Pretty sure I got the job and they'll likely be making me an offer within a week. Pretty sure I'll be turning it down as I already have a job offer for probably more money.
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Bright Bart posted:In some (or all?) EU countries it is standard to have your picture on your CV. That is not only annoying but also makes printing what will likely get thrown into the bin (or if you're lucky shredded) much more expensive as colour is expected. Deffo a thing in Germany but might be on its way out. Stuff like birth date, family status (single/married) and hobbies are also common. I was quite surprised to learn that many jobs outside of Germany don't expect stuff like pictures, age, and all that. I'd love for that to become standard here, I even heard about some places not wanting gender, heritage or even names and it's sound so much better.
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Steakandchips posted:I used the first 3 today, they were great. Thanks man. Nice! Saying no to people feels so good.
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Son of Rodney posted:Deffo a thing in Germany but might be on its way out. Stuff like birth date, family status (single/married) and hobbies are also common. I was quite surprised to learn that many jobs outside of Germany don't expect stuff like pictures, age, and all that. I'd love for that to become standard here, I even heard about some places not wanting gender, heritage or even names and it's sound so much better. This sounds like my home country, Turkey as well (it is common to follow European/German trends in there) with the mind-boggling trend of having 10 page CVs including hobbies, "career goals" (lol), and full on references. I got my CV done by the "Resume to Interviews" goon like, uh, 8 years ago and I think it is more Americanised (2 pages tops, no photo, no colors, focusing on specific and numeric accomplishments over-generalized ones) and it almost always got positively mentioned during interviews. I'm currently in the UK and seems like the formatting and content are also working. I had a dreadful interview during the first peak pandemic because the owner of the contract insisted on a face to face meeting (not a good sign to begin with) and these were the questions I got asked: -Are you close with your family back in your country? -Are you dating anyone or planning to marry them? Are they British or from your own country? -Do you plan to move back to your country? -Is your family planning to move to the UK? I was, naively, thinking that those might be just small talk in the beginning but then I noticed he was writing down my answers word by word. I was quite distressed and disheartened after that interview (which, at that time, needed greatly) and my ex-gf was furious. The Citizen Advice Bureau process for a situation like this is: "Ask the person interviewed you to send copies of the notes they take". Yeah, right "Can you send me the racial profiling question you asked to me?" clearly worked in so many cases, I bet. The contract was found by a colleague/friend of mine that I already had business connections (which I didn't want to jeopardize) and he tried to explain things as much as he can (the owner had someone quit before so he was wary of that happening again bla bla) while agreeing that the owner shouldn't have asked the questions he asked but I didn't chase things after consulting with my immigration lawyer. Any sentence that starts with "I mean, we can go to an actual court but..." sounds like a dead-end to me.
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Son of Rodney posted:Deffo a thing in Germany but might be on its way out. Stuff like birth date, family status (single/married) and hobbies are also common. I was quite surprised to learn that many jobs outside of Germany don't expect stuff like pictures, age, and all that. I'd love for that to become standard here, I even heard about some places not wanting gender, heritage or even names and it's sound so much better. Good lord. I'm in the US and I put my name, contact info, job history, special accomplishments and education. It seems really weird that they would want or need anything else.
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