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Raised By Birds posted:Grand Company Command missions were a core part of how I leveled most jobs from 20-50. Yeah but squaddies are actually really strong, it's quick so long as the dungeon mechanics forced on you aren't too bad (since every attack defaults to you). Algid fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Mar 1, 2021 |
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Algid posted:Yeah but squaddies are actually really strong, it's quick so long as the dungeon mechanics forced on you aren't too bad (since every attack defaults to you). They'd be even stronger if I had ever gotten Level 5 Offensive tactics for my DPS minions.  Also I just chanced to get into a Castrum run. I had seen a video for the mechanics, but that was a while ago. Thankfully the RDM that organized the party I was in was doing callouts, so I mostly just followed them, and it was a fairly easy clear. I even managed to not die... granted I was playing as a PLD with Bloodsucker essence on, so all I had to do was not screw up back to back. Also it's pretty funny doing this after 5.4's storyline. Mikoto going from "sorry, they're tempered, we don't know any way to break that" to "so, there's a way to cure tempering" in the time it took to go from one cutscene to the next." Raised By Birds fucked around with this message at 13:04 on Mar 1, 2021 |
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Fister Roboto posted:welp, i can't make or spend any more money now Throw all of that on a retainer to create an emergency fund that you know you'll never touch unless you really, really, really needed it. Not really sure what you really, really, really need gil for but it would keep your number.
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Iron Prince posted:I liked FF15 despite not understanding the plot at all because it relied on you watching like 10 different expository movies and poo poo. And I won't touch FF16 because it's still so shockingly rare that you can play as a woman in these games (and FF13 was a bucket of lukewarm piss). 
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Mar 1, 2021 13:38
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Cythereal posted:And I won't touch FF16 because it's still so shockingly rare that you can play as a woman in these games (and FF13 was a bucket of lukewarm piss). The sad part there is that Final Fantasy's been low-key pretty good about playable women, going right back to the very first games. Hell, to THE first game if you give them credit for the White Mage. So suddenly two games in a row likely having none of them is a HUGE downer.
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Cleretic posted:The sad part there is that Final Fantasy's been low-key pretty good about playable women, going right back to the very first games. Hell, to THE first game if you give them credit for the White Mage. White Mage was not a woman in the NES version of ff1. Every playable character was meant to be male (and are drawn as very traditionally masculine after you promote to advanced jobs). Overall FF as a series has done a very good job of playable, capable, and important women. The White Mage just wasn't originally supposed to be one.
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There's no way to know who is gonna be playable from that 90 second teaser they released
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Hamsterlady posted:Overall FF as a series has done a very good job of playable, capable, and important women. The White Mage just wasn't originally supposed to be one. Women protagonists, however, are still shockingly rare. It's one reason I don't watch most MMO trailers. Even though you have the option to play as a woman, every cinematic I've seen for every MMO I've played has assumed you will be playing as a white guy with short brown hair.
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Cythereal posted:Women protagonists, however, are still shockingly rare. Probably the fault of marketing teams saying they gotta target the (still mostly male) MMO player audience. It'd be interesting to see alternate renders of the FFXIV trailers where the signature character is replaced but everything else stays the same, though.
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It is disappointing that in any game with a character creator, the marketing will always go with the most generic male option. Like, they could at least try to make an interesting looking dude, but no, it's always got to be the most boring choice possible. It's just based on sexism and marketing inertia, I would be incredibly surprised if putting a female character or a non-generic white male in some of marketing material had any kind of measurable negative effect. Outside of the usual idiots screaming on the internet, but those people are never going to shut up.
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I do kind of understand it in FF14's case, they've already got the lady & LGBT MMO gamer demographics locked down so it makes sense they want to advertise outside that to the guys who need to be lured in with cool man with sword
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multijoe posted:I do kind of understand it in FF14's case, they've already got the lady & LGBT MMO gamer demographics locked down so it makes sense they want to advertise outside that to the guys who need to be lured in with cool man with sword This is true. FFXIV is the queerest and most gender diverse MMO I've ever played. It's awesome. I am on Faerie though so maybe I have some perception bias due to that.
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Rosalind posted:I am on Faerie though so maybe I have some perception bias due to that. Right across from my apartment on Famfrit is a large plot owned by a gay FC. Representation was something I noticed early on. If I told you an MMO had 3 major city-states, how many would you expect to have women as heads of state? Probably zero if it's an older game, 1 if more modern. 3 out of 3 is basically unheard of.
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Nibble posted:Right across from my apartment on Famfrit is a large plot owned by a gay FC. Granted that one of them has questionable real authority, but it's a good point. FFXIV isn't immune from gender tropes but it does a lot better in that regard than basically any mmo I've played, and I've played a lot of loving mmos.
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Cleretic posted:So suddenly two games in a row likely having none of them is a HUGE downer. You have no evidence that there are to be no playable women in FFXVI. This is a ridiculous argument you've been making in the main FF thread, and it's just as stupid here.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:You have no evidence that there are to be no playable women in FFXVI. This is a ridiculous argument you've been making in the main FF thread, and it's just as stupid here. Tbf to cleretic, shes usually arguing that she already knows exactly what the plot is and how it fails all her markers of a good story already. This is a much more cognizant argument than usual.
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Cleretic has the Echo and can see plot markers in advance
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multijoe posted:Cleretic has the Echo and can see plot markers in advance But seemingly getting EchoVision far enough where the equivalent is getting Echo flashbacks about Asahi or something while you’re doing the Titan feast quest lines; just seems kinda early to me for her to be getting this involved with this little info and context
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multijoe posted:Cleretic has the Echo and can see plot markers in advance Ah, the Mikoto version of the Echo. I kind of hope we get a roleplay duty as her at some point and it's basically just a Xenoblade 1 boss fight.
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Nibble posted:Representation was something I noticed early on. If I told you an MMO had 3 major city-states, how many would you expect to have women as heads of state? Probably zero if it's an older game, 1 if more modern. 3 out of 3 is basically unheard of. You know I never questioned that this was a big deal. I just accepted they were in charge because the game said so.
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Azubah posted:You know I never questioned that this was a big deal. I just accepted they were in charge because the game said so. Between Kan-e-Senna being a weird ageless teen and Merlwyb being a cool pirate with a gun, them being women isn't really the most notable thing going on. Nanamo is the only person where any attention is really paid to it, because she's called the "Sultana".
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its kinda funny saying 'generic white male' when this is a game made in japan lol. the fact is guys like generic trailer man appeal to a lot of women in japan, too. like as a random example if you look at popularity polls for stuff like persona, the most popular character with women is the generic player self-insert. and if you just look at pixiv and stuff theres a fair amount of fanart of, generic trailer man, making out with emet-selch or w/e. ofc i'd definitely agree that, say, they should switch around some, or bring back the party members from the earlier trailers, but its kinda hard to immediately get across 'this is the stand-in for you, the player' without the ten years of generic highlander guy being the stand in already. and switching midstream would just lead to confusion. it's not an ideal situation but i dont think its born solely from regressive politics or only trying to appeal to Straight Men or whatever.
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typing "ardbert porn" into google, staring at the search button, sweating bullets
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Endorph posted:ofc i'd definitely agree that, say, they should switch around some, or bring back the party members from the earlier trailers, but its kinda hard to immediately get across 'this is the stand-in for you, the player' without the ten years of generic highlander guy being the stand in already. and switching midstream would just lead to confusion. it's not an ideal situation but i dont think its born solely from regressive politics or only trying to appeal to Straight Men or whatever. If they did have an interest in changing it, 7.0 starting off a brand new story arc would be a good opportunity to do so.
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World War Mammories posted:typing "ardbert porn" into google, staring at the search button, sweating bullets It's still very funny to me that Ardbert is the mirror universe version of Generic Male Highlander.
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Based solely on population proportions, the trailer WoL should be a cat girl white mage.
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7.0 trailer features a catgirl throughout, ending on a lingering shot of an empty Fantasia vial, next to a mirror with a fading image of Generic Hyur
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there was a collector's edition for a realm reborn that had videos of the event sequences from 1.0, using generic highlander man as the pc, and his name in those was first name Meteor, last name Survivor, and i've seen some people use that as an actual name for him, which is insanely funny
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Trailer man is a good design, and he has only gotten hotter with every expac.
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Augus posted:the stubble is the crowd-pleaser Yuuup
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Tired: glamour is the true end game. Wired: bard music is the true end game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXENTrZM2i4
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Endorph posted:there was a collector's edition for a realm reborn that had videos of the event sequences from 1.0, using generic highlander man as the pc, and his name in those was first name Meteor, last name Survivor, and i've seen some people use that as an actual name for him, which is insanely funny Hell yeah make it canon and we can steal that gundam IBO opening for the trailers
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Augus posted:the stubble is the crowd-pleaser 
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Endorph posted:there was a collector's edition for a realm reborn that had videos of the event sequences from 1.0, using generic highlander man as the pc, and his name in those was first name Meteor, last name Survivor, and i've seen some people use that as an actual name for him, which is insanely funny Is that literally where the Meteor Survivor ring comes from because that's a riot. Zomborgon posted:7.0 trailer features a catgirl throughout, ending on a lingering shot of an empty Fantasia vial, next to a mirror with a fading image of Generic Hyur They won't do it because it's an MMO and it would screw with player communities. But having the 6.0 climax require the WoL to sacrifice themselves Nier-style (here's a free fantasia and name reset because old you is loving dead, enjoy 6.x!) would be a heck of a thing.
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I don't give a poo poo what the WoL looks like in the trailers. I just care that my friends show up. Tataru, the person single handily holding the entire operation together, is still missing from these trailers, a huge insult to me and to the game 
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seiferguy posted:Tired: glamour is the true end game. Extremely good.
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Rosalind posted:Based solely on population proportions, the trailer WoL should be a cat girl white mage. It wouldn't be very cinematic to end trailers with The Warrior of Light standing in orange dirt for 3 seconds before getting incinerated.
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