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Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
Time to gently caress up your landlord’s day because

Jabor posted:

Someone took major shortcuts with the electrical work to make it look like it has grounds without actually doing any work or spending any money.

Now ask yourself what shortcuts they took in places that aren't as easy to spot - is all the wiring in the walls sized appropriately for the breaker they've installed? How do you know?

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Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


https://i.imgur.com/HClxIcw.mp4

LanceHunter
Nov 12, 2016

Beautiful People Club



That fence is significantly stronger than I expected it to be.

hemale in pain
Jun 5, 2010




LanceHunter posted:

That fence is significantly stronger than I expected it to be.

Its one of those fences which is there to stop people accidentally colliding with trees or falling off a cliff when skiing down hill so it's kinda perfect for catching someone

EvenWorseOpinions
Jun 10, 2017
So are there circumstances where a GFCI test plug will give a false 'bad ground' reading? I knew all of the outlets in the upstairs of the house I'm renting had bad grounds so I installed a few GFCIs where I would need them, but I thought the first floor had grounds run, and the GFCI tester indicates bad ground on all of the three prong outlets in the house. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that someone replaced most of the two prongs in the house with three prongs just so they can watch TV

May Contain Nuts
Sep 12, 2007

but still delicious

EvenWorseOpinions posted:

So are there circumstances where a GFCI test plug will give a false 'bad ground' reading? I knew all of the outlets in the upstairs of the house I'm renting had bad grounds so I installed a few GFCIs where I would need them, but I thought the first floor had grounds run, and the GFCI tester indicates bad ground on all of the three prong outlets in the house. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that someone replaced most of the two prongs in the house with three prongs just so they can watch TV

If it's one of the plug in testers with three lights then the 'open ground' light is likely just a lamp between hot and ground rather than the usual hot and neutral, so the only way it could be giving a false open ground is if the lamp is burnt out.

EvenWorseOpinions
Jun 10, 2017
Sorry, false positive reading. Internet isn't saying a lot about using GFCI testers on regular three prong outlets

Herp derp I can't read. It's a GFCI tester though and it has an LED that lights for bad ground so I'm not sure how the circuit logic works on it and if it could allow a false positive if it's used on a regular three prong instead of a GFCI outlet. Somehow I suspect nothing in my house is grounded though...

It's this guy in particular
https://www.sperryinstruments.com/en/p/HGT6520/Stop-Shock-II-GFCI-Outlet-Circuit

EvenWorseOpinions fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Mar 2, 2021

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

chrisgt posted:

It's not my house, I just rent. I pulled the offending outlet and put the correct wire to neutral and hot. Now I have 0v between neutrals and 240v between hots.
There is nothing at all hooked up to the ground pin, not even a jumper. Although I think it's technically to code to convert two-wire installations by putting a GFCI with a jumper between neutral and ground.

There IS a ground wire, but someone cut it off flush with the box, so I'd have to pull the box out, see if there's any loose wire in the wall (there isn't) and then splice in a new piece. Why they did this is beyond me.

None of the outlets in the entire house are grounded. Not a single one. Not even the GFCIs in the kitchen and bathrooms....

Huh, interesting that there was enough leakage in the power supplies to energize the case then.

It's permissible to install GFI protected three prong outlets on an ungrounded circuit, as long as they're labeled "NO EQUIPMENT GROUND" you do not jumper neutral->ground though for the reasons I stated earlier.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

https://i.imgur.com/9raKKn0.mp4

Lol, that stumble back at the end.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

I'm still confused about the balance I had once that had 24V between the pan on top and earth, despite running off a 12v wallwart.

May Contain Nuts
Sep 12, 2007

but still delicious

EvenWorseOpinions posted:


Herp derp I can't read. It's a GFCI tester though and it has an LED that lights for bad ground so I'm not sure how the circuit logic works on it and if it could allow a false positive if it's used on a regular three prong instead of a GFCI outlet. Somehow I suspect nothing in my house is grounded though...

It's this guy in particular
https://www.sperryinstruments.com/en/p/HGT6520/Stop-Shock-II-GFCI-Outlet-Circuit

All that the GFCI test button does is complete a circuit between hot and ground with a resistive load of just enough amperage to trip a functioning GFCI device. The logic circuits that control the indicator lights are separate from that.

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

HelloIAmYourHeart posted:

omg I'm so excited. I love The Secret Life of Machines--it's one of those things from my childhood that was just as wonderful when I went back to it as an adult

Even better, check out this quote from Tim on Youtube:

quote:

I'm amazed and delighted that so many people are interested in this! People are also going on to watch some of the old 'Secret life of Machines series so I'm pleased to announce that there are new remastered and upscaled HD versions which I will upload next week. Using machine learning software from Topaz labs Norman Margolus has done a brilliant job - they are a huge improvement.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Gromit posted:

Even better, check out this quote from Tim on Youtube:

Okay, that is loving awesome. I loved that show and have found it kind of sad I can only find the most grainy VHS transfers available online. Having remastered videos would be great.

I learned so much from that show - it was amazingly educational.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


https://i.imgur.com/DSKHy7k.gifv

Heavy_D
Feb 16, 2002

"rararararara" contains the meaning of everything, kept in simple rectangular structures

confusing gender reveal, I think it's a boy?

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

It can't be a gender reveal, I didn't see any fatalities.

W424
Oct 21, 2010

Heavy_D posted:

confusing gender reveal, I think it's a boy?

It’s a blyat.

MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010

by sebmojo

Maxwells Demon posted:

Trains probably have to consider stopping distance and making sure none of their payload is blocking traffic the half mile back. I'm not sure if they are required to stop for any accident that doesn't impair functionality, or what benefit them doing so would have.

Lol, no.

In the US a train could completely block off a small town for weeks with no repercussions. The laws governing trains were written at the federal level, by the train companies, and can't be overridden by state law.

Any state is free to write laws governing trains. They're even less effect than the states with a lower minimum wage than the federal minimum.

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

Heavy_D posted:

confusing gender reveal, I think it's a boy?

Gender: Gopnik

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



I hated Roller Skating in California Games

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

That's legit awesome?

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

chrisgt posted:

None of the outlets in the entire house are grounded. Not a single one. Not even the GFCIs in the kitchen and bathrooms....
There's no loving way that's up to code right? right?

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Elviscat posted:

Huh, interesting that there was enough leakage in the power supplies to energize the case then.

It's permissible to install GFI protected three prong outlets on an ungrounded circuit, as long as they're labeled "NO EQUIPMENT GROUND" you do not jumper neutral->ground though for the reasons I stated earlier.

I didn't realize a GFI outlet would trip on a ground fault if it didn't have an external path from neutral to ground.

evil_bunnY posted:

There's no loving way that's up to code right? right?

of course not

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

chrisgt posted:

I didn't realize a GFI outlet would trip on a ground fault if it didn't have an external path from neutral to ground.


The ground fault itself is tripped just due to current imbalance between live and neutral, regardless of what path the return curent takes instead of the neutral. It's not quite the same without the ground, especially with regard to EMI, but I dont know the specifics

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Slanderer posted:

The ground fault itself is tripped just due to current imbalance between live and neutral, regardless of what path the return curent takes instead of the neutral. It's not quite the same without the ground, especially with regard to EMI, but I dont know the specifics

Yea, I was under the impression the outlet monitored the ground current and tripped if it was too high. For that I assumed there had to be a bond between ground and neutral (hopefully in the distribution panel...). But I have never taken one of these things apart to see how they work. I should do that.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
The GFCI doesn’t do anything with the ground wire. It’s passed directly through to the outlets, same as it would be in a dumb outlet. It is not monitored or interrupted in any way.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


evil_bunnY posted:

That's legit awesome?

I've discovered shooting the electric bug-zapper with a gelblaster created the same satisfaction of hearing a big zap "Got him!"

Ians onto something again...again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1zQ5b3C1hM

Humphreys fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Mar 2, 2021

Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019

I've never lived in a place where the ground was actually connected to anything.

Also, at my grandmother's house, there were no wall outlets so everything had to be connected to light sockets. The pull chains for the light sockets themselves were hot, so it was very common for people to head into the bathroom, start pissing, fumble for the lights, and zap the hell out of their dick.

(Yes I zapped the hell out of my dick.)

Dip Viscous fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Mar 2, 2021

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Dip Viscous posted:

I've never lived in a place where the ground was actually connected to anything.
This is the sound of my headcap blowing off.

-Zydeco-
Nov 12, 2007



Since every time I see one of these vide I get reminded of it, anyone who hasn't seen Danger UXB! should. Follows the life of a UXO crew England during WW2 and its' all up on daily motion for free.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6s1ejp

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

Batterypowered7 posted:

https://i.imgur.com/9raKKn0.mp4

Lol, that stumble back impromptu Irish jig at the end.

ftfy

Pigsfeet on Rye fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Mar 2, 2021

Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019

evil_bunnY posted:

This is the sound of my headcap blowing off.

Every place I've ever moved into, the outlets are so worn out that anything you plug into them falls out from gravity. I replace them, and I've seen three possible grounding setups.

1) Nothing
2) 1" wire to connect ground to neutral
3) Wire that looks like a ground but is actually only long enough to disappear into the wall and doesn't actually connect to anything

Groda
Mar 17, 2005

Hair Elf

-Zydeco- posted:

Since every time I see one of these vide I get reminded of it, anyone who hasn't seen Danger UXB! should. Follows the life of a UXO crew England during WW2 and its' all up on daily motion for free.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6s1ejp

I started episode one, and there was a beep-beep-beep warning and an explosion in the background.

It felt quite real.

Turns out it was the subway project next door.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Dip Viscous posted:

1) Nothing
2) 1" wire to connect ground to neutral
3) Wire that looks like a ground but is actually only long enough to disappear into the wall and doesn't actually connect to anything
Amazing what the capitalism+laziness combo will unleash up us.

Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019

At a previous factory job I showed an OSHA inspector a fake emergency stop that didn't even have fake wires running to it. He put his head down and walked away from me.

You can't even force anyone to care.

Dumb Sex-Parrot
Dec 25, 2020

 
Absurd Pox Term
Rad Buxom Strep
     
Retard Ox Bumps
Borax Dumpster
     
Dares Box Trump

Cartoon Man posted:

Let’s build a giant massive slide that dumps you onto a bunch of rocks in the woods.

I think the kid achieved a higher terminal velocity due to the slide being wet.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Dip Viscous posted:

At a previous factory job I showed an OSHA inspector a fake emergency stop that didn't even have fake wires running to it. He put his head down and walked away from me.

You can't even force anyone to care.

Like, he just chose to pretend you hadn't shown him?

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Groda posted:

I started episode one, and there was a beep-beep-beep warning and an explosion in the background.

It felt quite real.

Turns out it was the subway project next door.

I was playing HL2 when it first came out and was really impressed by the surround sound effects of the water dripping until I realized a bunch of water was dripping through the ceiling of my bathroom.

I went upstairs and knocked on the neighbor's door, they said they called maintenance and it was dripping from the wall. I later learned that it was actually the toilet and they didn't know how a water shutoff valve worked, which I could have easily done for them if they didn't make it sound like a burst pipe in the wall!

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever


When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a wall on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. And that one sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, and then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up.

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Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019

Batterypowered7 posted:

Like, he just chose to pretend you hadn't shown him?

Yes, repeatedly, for 11 years. Doesn't get paid by the care.

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