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2house2fly posted:Hux didn't defect to Leia's side, he was feeding information to the rebels in hopes they'd take out Kyle and he could take control of the First Order i'm the spy!!!
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Why did hux hate kylo ren so much. Did kylo ren hate hux back or was he just ambivalent about him edit: Oh yeah, snoke. forgot about him
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Mar 4, 2021 03:09
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Hux is just Admiral Motti from ANH with way more screen time. But not as funny as that sounds. Kylo finds his lack of faith disturbing.
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Mar 4, 2021 03:36
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Robot Style posted:The event was also told from the POV of Leia's adopted mother (who was with him) in the short story anthology From a Certain Point of View. That's some good art.
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Mar 4, 2021 04:33
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Halloween Jack posted:Hux is just Admiral Motti from ANH with way more screen time. But not as funny as that sounds. Kylo finds his lack of faith disturbing. Nien nunb nosedives the tantive in the third film, making him admiral piett
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Mar 4, 2021 04:55
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No Mods No Masters posted:Why did hux hate kylo ren so much. Did kylo ren hate hux back or was he just ambivalent about him Fascists are always catty bitches who turn on each other for power at the first opportunity.
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Mar 4, 2021 06:04
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Ingmar terdman posted:Nien nunb nosedives the tantive in the third film I always forget this. God.
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Mar 4, 2021 06:50
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Eason the Fifth posted:All this talk about fascist uniforms makes me want to watch the best Star Wars movie, Starship Troopers Star war makes fascists of us all.
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Mar 4, 2021 08:35
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Halloween Jack posted:Hux is just Admiral Motti from ANH with way more screen time. But not as funny as that sounds. Kylo finds his lack of faith disturbing. kylo isn't religious
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:Palpatine was never Hitler though - he kept order and he ran the empire, but the Imperial hierarchy despised his religion and his force powers. Did they know he had supernatural powers? I thought that for them Vader was the only open weirdo with a sword as set up in New Hope.
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Mar 4, 2021 11:53
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They probably thought of the force as an outdated concept that has no place in the empire rather than not knowing about Jedi powers in general? The clone wars were like what, 20 years ago?
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Mar 4, 2021 11:58
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Junkozeyne posted:They probably thought of the force as an outdated concept that has no place in the empire rather than not knowing about Jedi powers in general? The clone wars were like what, 20 years ago? 19 years between RotS and ANH.
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Mar 4, 2021 12:05
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Junkozeyne posted:They probably thought of the force as an outdated concept that has no place in the empire rather than not knowing about Jedi powers in general? The clone wars were like what, 20 years ago? The Star Wars universe is so enormous and baroque that it's probably easy for the individual denizens to hand wave that sort of thing. Could be any one of a hundred flavours of drugs, cybernetics, mutations or inherent alien powers. Every time they meet a new type of guy who can, like, read minds or turn invisible or whatever, they aren't going to think of it as the manifested will of an all-pervasive force. It's just another weird thing in the galaxy. It's probably widely known that the jedi attributed their powers to their religion, but come on, they tried to do a coup in the middle of a war. They were clearly just crazy, and, also, had strong ties to the really corrupt government we had back before Sheev Palpatine "drained the garbage compactor".
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Elfgames posted:kylo isn't religious Dude literally worships his father's broken helmet and seeks to finish his great work
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Mar 4, 2021 14:51
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fatherboxx posted:Did they know he had supernatural powers? I thought that for them Vader was the only open weirdo with a sword as set up in New Hope. The line from Motti is “Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Vader. Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes, or given you clairvoyance enough to find the Rebels' hidden fortress”
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I get the feeling the "sorcerer" part is as dismissive as Owen's "wizard", like he's not calling him much of one. Motti might as well have said "conjurer of cheap tricks".
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Mar 4, 2021 14:59
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Jewmanji posted:The line from Motti is “Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Vader. Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes, or given you clairvoyance enough to find the Rebels' hidden fortress” Yeah I dont think he would have dared to say that if he knew that Palps was the spooky wizard too
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Palpatine very rarely openly uses his Sith powers in most appearances, and lightning seems to be his signature. His prequel appearances are pretty consistent in that his real specialty is politics. Also, Sith names aren't subtle. Vader is a weapon of an empire, Maul is an assassin, Tyranis is an aristocratic leader, Sidious runs a galactic conspiracy.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Also, Sith names aren't subtle. Vader is a weapon of an empire, Maul is an assassin, Tyranis is an aristocratic leader, Sidious runs a galactic conspiracy.
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I'd say the question of the First Orders ideology is another example both of the creative forces behind the ST not knowing what the movies are supposed to be about and their own lack of understanding of real world ideologies. They dress like Nazi's, make angry authoritarian speeches like Nazi's, and are claimed to be "Argentinian Holdouts" by the director, because those are the things he thinks make a Nazi a Nazi. But in the meta sense anyone in the audience with historical literacy knows that Fascism is a lot more than just those aesthetic things. So there is a disconnect between what the First Order is supposed to be and what it actually is.
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Mar 4, 2021 16:25
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galagazombie posted:I'd say the question of the First Orders ideology is another example both of the creative forces behind the ST not knowing what the movies are supposed to be about and their own lack of understanding of real world ideologies. They dress like Nazi's, make angry authoritarian speeches like Nazi's, and are claimed to be "Argentinian Holdouts" by the director, because those are the things he thinks make a Nazi a Nazi. But in the meta sense anyone in the audience with historical literacy knows that Fascism is a lot more than just those aesthetic things. So there is a disconnect between what the First Order is supposed to be and what it actually is. You are making a lot of stuff you cant really know like what the "creative forces" do or do not know in order to get to the same point which is that the First Order are not nazis in the films. You can cut out all that stuff you think you know about the "creative forces" and just stick to the film. IMHO. Do whatever you want of course. Just my observation.
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Mar 4, 2021 16:32
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galagazombie posted:I'd say the question of the First Orders ideology is another example both of the creative forces behind the ST not knowing what the movies are supposed to be about and their own lack of understanding of real world ideologies. They dress like Nazi's, make angry authoritarian speeches like Nazi's, and are claimed to be "Argentinian Holdouts" by the director, because those are the things he thinks make a Nazi a Nazi. But in the meta sense anyone in the audience with historical literacy knows that Fascism is a lot more than just those aesthetic things. So there is a disconnect between what the First Order is supposed to be and what it actually is. Lindsey Ellis has a good video from a few years back where she talked about the (lack of) obvious ideology of the First Order, it's a decent watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAVeyXwy3BE
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Yoda is force sensitive because he is a puppet. He can feel someone else pulling his strings, and is therefore able to pull the X-wing by its abstract strings, out of the swamp. Like his brother, grover, he teaches children, but not letters just how to kill each other.
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I'm reminded of a bad pen and paper RPG, Stigmata, and its antagonist group being 'non-ideological fascism'. Attempts to just throw together villainous signifiers and thinking that alone is enough. Cobra from GI Joe is more fleshed out, compelling and interesting.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I'm reminded of a bad pen and paper RPG, Stigmata, and its antagonist group being 'non-ideological fascism'. Attempts to just throw together villainous signifiers and thinking that alone is enough.
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The revolution actually forbids you from assassinating fascist politicians, it's insane. You're supposed to overthrow fascism with like, sabotage and graffiti.
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Mar 5, 2021 13:07
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Finally, the superweapon Strongly Worded Letter's time to shine
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Halloween Jack posted:The revolution actually forbids you from assassinating fascist politicians, it's insane. You're supposed to overthrow fascism with like, sabotage and graffiti. Isnt that the plot of Jet Set Radio
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weekly font posted:Isnt that the plot of Jet Set Radio You also run the cops over with your skates and blow up their helicopters so theres a bit more weight to the graffiti in those games
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Cobra from GI Joe is more fleshed out, compelling and interesting. I think the old Marvel comics actually made Cobra explicitly made up of middle class White Americans with a fascist ideology that blamed the (at the time of the comics just starting) death of the American middle-class on minorities/immigrants/feminists/liberals/etc. Waaaay more to say there than the T.V. shows vaguely european Cobra that wanted to rule the world because they hated fun or whatever.
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Mar 5, 2021 21:35
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They loathed freedom yet loved snakes So who's to say if they are the good or bad friends we made along the land of contrasts, aw dammit
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Mar 5, 2021 21:52
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Yeah, Larry Hama really knew what he was doing. Please don't get me to tease out everything wrong with Sigmata. It's just fractally wrong in the way that only a certain type of online leftist techbro can be.
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I tried playing Sigmata, but it hurt the palms of my hands too much.
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Halloween Jack posted:Please don't get me to tease out everything wrong with Sigmata. It's just fractally wrong in the way that only a certain type of online leftist techbro can be.  Also IIRC, people randomly turn into superpowered cyborgs from listening to pirate radio. For some reason.
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Vinylshadow posted:Finally, the superweapon Strongly Worded Letter's time to shine
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Mar 5, 2021 23:55
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The Emperor will surely de-activate the Death Star if we peacefully march down Coruscant Main Street (but not during rush hour, and follow all Stormtrooper orders) with "witty" holo-signs. Blowing it up would make us just as bad really.
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http://www.thepaincomics.com/weekly050525.htm
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Has this thread discussed the unofficial Treverrow comic yet? http://awinegarner.squarespace.com/duel-of-the-fates It's actually pretty decent
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bushisms.txt posted:Has this thread discussed the unofficial Treverrow comic yet? I’m sad we didn’t get this movie.
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The comic is a lot better than I would have given it credit for after the brief summaries i'd read of Trevorrow Wars. Especially Finn vanishing into a sewer with a ninja jump
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