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therattle posted:There’s a dog-poo-bag dropper on our street. We’ve put up posters but it’s continued. I think we’ve just identified the culprit though. I want to round up a posse. a poosse!!!!!!!!!! more like!!  https://i.imgur.com/8iUcSjG.mp4 simulation of the timeline where dommie cummies's ideas went unchallenged crispix fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Mar 6, 2021 |
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Rumda posted:https://twitter.com/KatyMontgomerie/status/1368164668955590661?s=19 Came to post this, any idea that the official system is "better" than online pharmacists is a fake one.
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Mar 6, 2021 17:26
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GICs only seeing two patients a year is a feature, not a bug. Either force people to go private (where they'll be paying the same people anyway) or make their lives miserable because if they didn't want to be miserable, they'd have chosen to be rich.
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Mar 6, 2021 17:35
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The aim is to literally push trans people to either stop transitioning or to die
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Connections is honestly my favourite documentary series of all time, and is right up there for me in terms of the greatest show ever made - it's what I always turn to when I'm feeling a bit low, basically comfort food for the brain. It's a direct reply to the two big prestige documentaries David Attenbrough commissioned to show off colour television when he was controller of BBC2 (he also televised snooker because it was cheap and relied on colour) - Civilisation and The Ascent of Man, which were grandiose histories of art and science respectively. Both are excellent documentaries in their own right (although the former in particular suffers from a massively eurocentric view of the world which is a bit clanging to modern ears). Thread favourite Ways of Seeing was also made as a rebuke to Civilisation. That series must really have pissed some people off.
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Mar 6, 2021 17:41
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The best way to get the right answer is to post the wrong answer and wait to be corrected
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Mar 6, 2021 17:42
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:GICs only seeing two patients a year is a feature, not a bug. Either force people to go private (where they'll be paying the same people anyway) or make their lives miserable because if they didn't want to be miserable, they'd have chosen to be rich. I read the thread on that tweet and they're saying the way the data is put is a little misleading. The clinic didn't see only two patients in 2020, it only saw two patients that'd signed up since December 2019. Presumably the rest of the patients they saw were from the extremely long waiting list of people who'd signed up before then.
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Mar 6, 2021 17:52
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Dog poo bag droppers must be insane. Leaving the poo poo out of laziness I understand, but what sort of psychosis makes you pick up the poo poo just to leave it somewhere else? love 2 encase a rapidly biodegradable substance in plastic so it lingers longer
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Mar 6, 2021 18:00
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Necrothatcher posted:I read the thread on that tweet and they're saying the way the data is put is a little misleading. so those two people jumped the line then since if that was the case then why do they still have people from before December 2019 waiting?
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Mar 6, 2021 18:06
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Necrothatcher posted:I read the thread on that tweet and they're saying the way the data is put is a little misleading. I mean, the queue growing by 495 and shrinking by loving 2 is a big problem
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Mar 6, 2021 18:06
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Necrothatcher posted:I read the thread on that tweet and they're saying the way the data is put is a little misleading. there are still 2592 people waiting for their first appointment
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Mar 6, 2021 18:07
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Necrothatcher posted:I read the thread on that tweet and they're saying the way the data is put is a little misleading. this is frankly transphobic apologia
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Mar 6, 2021 18:08
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there has been an ice cream van going around here for weeks now and like, is that legal lol
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Mar 6, 2021 18:09
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Necrothatcher posted:I read the thread on that tweet and they're saying the way the data is put is a little misleading. i'm sure this post will age well
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Mar 6, 2021 18:10
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Dog poo bag droppers must be insane. Leaving the poo poo out of laziness I understand, but what sort of psychosis makes you pick up the poo poo just to leave it somewhere else? I live at the end of a terrace near a park and people constantly use our bin to drop their dog poo poo into after leaving the park, even though they walk last a proper dog poo poo bin to get to ours.
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Mar 6, 2021 18:14
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crispix posted:there has been an ice cream van going around here for weeks now and like, is that legal lol Since when is ice cream in March not essential?
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Mar 6, 2021 18:15
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stev posted:Since when is ice cream in March not essential? Honestly I could absolutely murder a Magnum or a 99 right now
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Mar 6, 2021 18:15
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Necrothatcher posted:I read the thread on that tweet and they're saying the way the data is put is a little misleading. so you put more faith in the tweet of a random an evangelical writer than people who have experience with just how poo poo the gender clinics are in this country
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Mar 6, 2021 18:15
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Never mind, I haven’t read the underlying tweet so should not comment.
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Mar 6, 2021 18:16
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the icy man on our estate when i was wee looked like the angry ginger bloke on the Guess Who board  alfred
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Mar 6, 2021 18:21
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also why the hell would any clinic reply with any figures saying they saw two people since December 2019 if they could possibly present better numbers that doesn't make them look evil and incompetent
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Mar 6, 2021 18:22
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crispix posted:the icy man on our estate when i was wee looked like the angry ginger bloke on the Guess Who board the ice cream man in our town was stabbed for either being a nonce or a drug dealer, possibly both going by the rumours
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Mar 6, 2021 18:26
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Rumda posted:this is frankly transphobic apologia it seems like a reasonable reading of this: 
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Mar 6, 2021 18:38
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Necrothatcher posted:it seems like a reasonable reading of this: Aside from the subsequently in the discharges there is nothing to suggest that number are linked, it says two people had been assessed by the service not 'of these two have been assessed'
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Mar 6, 2021 18:43
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It seems like a rather large stretch of a reading, personally. Unless, as suggested, the clinic is deliberately trying to make it look like it isn't seeing any patients which would be bizzare. E: ^ yeah, I don't at all see why you would assume that weird link as I don't think there is anything in the text that supports it?
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Mar 6, 2021 18:44
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The problem with dog poo bags is that it seems reasonable to cache a full one for the return journey so you don't have to carry it, but then people either forget or are confronted with a dozen identical little black bags when they return. It's one thing to take your own dog's poo home but accidentally taking someone else's dog's poo home is deeply revolting. IMO the bags should come in a selection of fluorescent colours to encourage positive identification. Doesn't help when someone in the neighbourhood has dementia and their dog craps on the verge at exactly the same location every day, so they stick it in a little white bag and poke it into someone's garden hedge to pick up on the way back. Alongside their bag from yesterday and the one from the day before. The hedge owner used to flick the whole cache back onto the verge at the end of the month and the council mowers would chop them up.
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The group of streets I'm in can be considered as dog poo poo central. As we are surrounded by hills, and most shops are down here, a lot of dog walkers take their routes here. There are 150 euro fine notices everywhere, but no one seems to care. You soon learn to watch every step you take.
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Mar 6, 2021 18:46
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Rumda posted:In my case it took two referrals from two different GP practices to even get the Leeds GIDS clinic to recognise that I had been referred and even then only just received confirmation that it has been accepted. God, out of everyone I know, only one person has go to the hormones stage at the Leeds GIDS clinic. All the rest are still waiting for the first appointment, with everyone experiencing the same poo poo you have. iirc it's still at over 2000 people waiting for that fist appointment from like, October 2017. It just makes so, so angry at how gender transitioning is handled in the UK. Honestly, that also goes for the rest of the specialised NHS units in Leeds. It took me two years from first referral to the Mount for ADHD to starting medication titration this past December; even they went through the whole "oh we're sorry we don't have a record of your referral", "whoops we forgot to put you on the list properly" etc. Just poo poo all a round.
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Mar 6, 2021 18:50
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Rumda posted:Aside from the subsequently in the discharges there is nothing to suggest that number are linked, it says two people had been assessed by the service not 'of these two have been assessed' The question is how many patients have been accepted AND processed since December 2019, so they're specifically asking for patients since December 2019 who fit both categories. That there's just two of them is loving ridiculous, but that doesn't mean they assessed a total of two patients over that time. The reason they're give a low figure that makes them look bad is because FOIA requests have to give the exact information you requested - and that's what this is.
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josh04 posted:Thread favourite Ways of Seeing was also made as a rebuke to Civilisation. That series must really have pissed some people off. It's basic thesis was that the only measure of the worth of a society is the amount of paintings of white people it turned out, so yeah even for the seventies it was a bit iffy.
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Necrothatcher posted:The question is how many patients have been accepted AND processed since December 2019, so they're specifically asking for patients since December 2019 who fit both categories. That there's just two of them is loving ridiculous, but that doesn't mean they assessed a total of two patients over that time. They didn't answer how many people had been processed though
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With freedom of information requests they are strictly required to answer the exact question that is asked. The question asked how many were referred and processed in the date range given. They answered that exact question as they are required to do. They weren't asked how many appointments were completed, how many individual patients were seen, how many new patient appointments took place. It's extremely misleading to present that as 'they saw 2 patients in a whole year'. It's also not possible to tell whether the waiting list is growing or shrinking from the figures given as they weren't asked how many new referrals were seen. This: Rumda posted:this is frankly transphobic apologia is completely ridiculous when someone has tried to give an honest (and correct) explanation of the figures and you don't need to disagree that the level of service provided is shocking to point this out.
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Mar 6, 2021 19:06
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The whole thing seems predicated on the idea that they couldn't possibly only have seen two people so there must be some other explanation, which uh, why?
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Mar 6, 2021 19:08
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Rumda posted:They didn't answer how many people had been processed though They weren't asked that. FOIAs are tricky, the organisation under scrutiny is required to submit the information requested, no more no less. It's annoying when a question is interpreted overly literally but it's better than an organisation having the option to submit answers that just make them look good.
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Algol Star posted:With freedom of information requests they are strictly required to answer the exact question that is asked. The question asked how many were referred and processed in the date range given. They answered that exact question as they are required to do. They weren't asked how many appointments were completed, how many individual patients were seen, how many new patient appointments took place. It's extremely misleading to present that as 'they saw 2 patients in a whole year'.
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And honestly having even one patient in the entire country get seen in the same year as their referral is frankly ludicrous. It is a thing which just doesn't happen.
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Necrothatcher posted:They weren't asked that.  They have to answer the exact question except when they don't? Also I think that parsing that question as "only people who have been both accepted and assessed since that time" is inherently subjective, it could just as well be read as "how people people have been accepted and how many people have been processed?" so arguing that they have to interpret it that way is silly.
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Rumda posted:No one is saying that they only saw two patients all year what people are arguing about is that if they saw just two new patients or if they saw more but two patients managed to keep over 2000 places and get seen in the year they got referred so how does that make me a transphobe?
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Necrothatcher posted:so how does that make me a transphobe? settle down now: Rumda posted:this is frankly transphobic apologia
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Rumda posted:No one is saying that they only saw two patients all year what people are arguing about is that if they saw just two new patients or if they saw more but two patients managed to keep over 2000 places and get seen in the year they got referred That's exactly what the posted tweet says? quote:In 2020 one of the UKs only Gender Clinics saw only TWO patients! TWO! IN A YEAR! Then someone said that's not true, and now you're agreeing that's not true? So we're all good?
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