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As with everything Nvidia offers its just a brand name on top of "here are more tensor cores to dedicate to the thing"
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DLSS is the proprietary thing and that’s easy to get confused because it often is required for RT
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Mar 6, 2021 18:53
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Wtf is DLSS and why should I care about it?
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CyberPingu posted:Wtf is DLSS and why should I care about it? Deep learning super sampling, basically AI powered image processing that speeds up rendering without affecting image quality too much From all accounts it’s very good for videogames, speed increases in FPS, very little image quality loss
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Mar 6, 2021 19:15
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That sounds better than whatever the gently caress ray tracing was supposed to be.
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It is an nvidia-proprietary very high quality image upscaler and you should care about it because it lets you boost your frame rates 50% or more with almost no detectable loss in image quality.CyberPingu posted:That sounds better than whatever the gently caress ray tracing was supposed to be. yes.
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DLSS causes an obvious image quality reduction when upscaling 720p->1080p, people look at the 1440p->2160p tests and decide it's always that good.
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Mar 6, 2021 19:42
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Malloc Voidstar posted:DLSS causes an obvious image quality reduction when upscaling 720p->1080p, people look at the 1440p->2160p tests and decide it's always that good. Two other ways this could be looked at: - DLSS 1080p looks much better than native 720p while keeping the same performance - DLSS 1080p performs much better than native 1080p with a much smaller quality hit than e.g. turning all the textures and geometry down to 0
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Mar 6, 2021 19:45
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Which is very relevant for the relevant buyers who want to run a $1200 GPU at 300 FPS on a $100 1080p60 monitor. The reality is you have no business buying any of the GPUs in the discussion if you haven't bought at least a 1440p 144hz monitor yet. At least to my blind testing, at 1440p DLSS 2.0+ quality is always a straight up visual upgrade from TAA, especially in motion.
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That's where the x60 cards keep coming in despite performance that hasn't been groundbreaking in six years. The 3060 isn't a leap forward into unexplored territory like the 3080 is, but it isn't supposed to be. It's for people who thought the 1080ti was too much back when a GPU wouldn't cost over $800.
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Craptacular! posted:That's where the x60 cards keep coming in despite performance that hasn't been groundbreaking in six years. The 3060 isn't a leap forward into unexplored territory like the 3080 is, but it isn't supposed to be. It's for people who thought the 1080ti was too much back when a GPU wouldn't cost over $800. The 3080 is a lie. Amazon has like 60 reviews on the one I want in like 6 months. Ebay prices have been climbing for months because the supply is basically non existent.
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spunkshui posted:The 3080 is a lie. ebay prices are already coming back down, they've dropped from $2200 to $2000, and that's with an ebay bucks promo this weekend pushing demand up. mining profits have fallen significantly and the mining demand just isn't there to support those kind of prices anymore, and gamers sure as gently caress ain't lining up to buy them at $2200 a pop january/february was the confluence of a lot of bad events, mining profit spiked sky high in december/jan/early feb, plus lunar new year hit at the exact same time, plus stimulus dollars. Prices might get another bump from the stimulus checks whenever those finally go out (although democrats significantly tightened the eligibility rules so a lot less of the middle-class people who dumped it into luxury toys are going to be eligible this time around) but overall this is probably about as high as it's going to get and I think it'll gradually work its way down to a more "reasonable" level of shortage. Gamers will suck it up at $1200, not so much $2200. vvv yeah, Cyberpunk was driving things up in december too, and there hasn't been anything since. vvv Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Mar 6, 2021 |
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Probably doesn't help the scalpers that there's been no must-play game released in about 4 months now. Anyone who wanted a tricked out machine for Cyberpunk got it already and there's been nothing else to push demand for new cards other than the fact that they're new cards.
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the 3060 is for people who still have a 1060, who looked at the 2060 and said "nah"
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Once it is officially announced is there anywhere I can just sign up for a pre-order to get in line to get a 3080 ti? I don't care if it takes six months to get it as long as I can get a confirmed slot.
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Universe Master posted:Once it is officially announced is there anywhere I can just sign up for a pre-order to get in line to get a 3080 ti? I don't care if it takes six months to get it as long as I can get a confirmed slot. EVGA might do the thing they did for the other cards where yes, you can sign up in line and they'll notify you when one is available. Six months might be optimistic. I signed up for a 3080 on September 17th (i.e. less than 24 hours after they were announced) and I'm still waiting
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Mar 6, 2021 20:38
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Sagebrush posted:EVGA might do the thing they did for the other cards where yes, you can sign up in line and they'll notify you when one is available. Which card did you sign up for? If it was the XC3 or FTW3 non-Ultra, then RIP, they're throwing all their chips into the Ultras and you're likely to never see it. The XC3 Black, XC3 Gaming, and FTW3 Gaming haven't had a single card sent to the notification list.
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Yeah it was one of the XC3s because I foolishly assumed that when a company lists a product for sale in their catalog, that product is actually going to be manufactured and made available for sale. I'm pissy about it because I think what they did is basically false advertising, but I didn't pay anything yet so whatever. It's not significantly better in the other cases though. A friend of mine signed up at the same time in the queue for the highest end FTW model, which moved the fastest, and he still didn't get a card until February. Also it exploded the first time he tried to run a game with it and the EVGA RMA people were assholes about it.
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repiv posted:chiplet gpus incoming isn't that the place the deathstar blew up?
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Paul MaudDib posted:ebay prices are already coming back down, they've dropped from $2200 to $2000, and that's with an ebay bucks promo this weekend pushing demand up. mining profits have fallen significantly and the mining demand just isn't there to support those kind of prices anymore, and gamers sure as gently caress ain't lining up to buy them at $2200 a pop Yeah, and I need 2 cards since I'm trying to upgrade my wife and I at the same time. No loving way am I spending 4 grand on GPUs. I pray to God that an open economy is bad for bitcoin HODLing and we get a crash this summer. If poo poo stays the same then I have to use these loving 1070s until they literally die.
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Universe Master posted:Once it is officially announced is there anywhere I can just sign up for a pre-order to get in line to get a 3080 ti? I don't care if it takes six months to get it as long as I can get a confirmed slot. Basically no. This is not like buying an iphone from apple. Welcome to hell, brought to you by NVIDIA. The same people who tricked EVGA into doing a bunch of RND for cards EVGA would never have enough volume to bring to market. edit: EVGA will have a signup thingy but you can see how well that worked out for some lol
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Sagebrush posted:Yeah it was one of the XC3s because I foolishly assumed that when a company lists a product for sale in their catalog, that product is actually going to be manufactured and made available for sale. I'm pissy about it because I think what they did is basically false advertising, but I didn't pay anything yet so whatever. Is there a story behind the card exploding? I’d like to know more.
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After a day of frustration, pretty sure I got a DOA 3070. System turns on but no video out, can get a video out with both an old AMD and Nvidia card. Going to try and plug this into a friends system and see if it works there, but not super hopeful. Was hoping it was my riser cable causing issues, but still have the same problem when not using it, and both the other cards work fine with it.
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Swapped the card in. Everything powered up, including it's fans, but no ouput. Put back in the old 5700 I'd had worked with that. Then pulled that out, put in my friends 2070 super with new drivers and it worked there as well. Tried the 3070 after that same issue, everything powers up, it's fans spin on, but can't get a signal out from any of it's ports or the ones through the motherboard. I have my old GPU so my system is useable but this is confusing. Going to try plugging it into another system that's known to be working tomorrow and see if I have any better luck. It's in an NR200p so my first thought was that the riser cable was the issue, but the problem persists when plugged directly into the motherboard.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:isn't that the place the deathstar blew up? No, that was Alderaan. Aldebaran is a real star. e: added links
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check the power cables running to the card? do you have 2 separate cables?
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Yeah, two 8 pins, look to both be in tightly, but doesn't hurt to try again.
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Aesirstorm posted:Swapped the card in. This is almost undoubtedly not the solution to your issue, but I had a friend who went from a GTX 1080 to an RTX 3080 and was having issues getting video out to the display. He was using DP on the old GPU but switched over to HDMI because the new GPU and his monitor both support HDMI 2.1. He was adamant his GPU was dead, but I told him to go into his monitor's OSD and make sure he had the proper input selected. It was set to use DP, not HDMI, so the issue was solved by simply changing the input on the display itself. If you were using DP on your 5700 and are now trying to use HDMI with the 3070 (and your friend's 2070S), double-check your display is set to the proper input. I know you said can't get a signal out from any of its ports, but it might be because the monitor is only looking for one specific connection.
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Tried with two monitors, one with HDMI one with DP, both had previously been using that type of input. I don't think that's the issue, but I'll check that as well. I'd feel dumb, but would rather feel like an idiot and have my card working.
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Check your cables to see if they can handle the bandwidth if you're jumping to DP1.4 or HDMI 2.1? E: extremely unlikely to give you a dead screen, but if you're checking on everything...
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:Is there a story behind the card exploding? I’d like to know more. From the pictures he sent me, my guess at the direct cause was a solder bridge on those rear-side MLCC packs that everyone was losing their mind about last year. Could have been something else, but there was obvious scorched flux and at least one exploded/missing SMD capacitor in the area and he said it made a sizzling noise and smelled like the magic smoke.
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v1ld posted:Check your cables to see if they can handle the bandwidth if you're jumping to DP1.4 or HDMI 2.1? Yeah, that's not the issue. Changing out power cables didn't do anything. Computer turns on, GPU fans spin up and stay on, no output. The other two cards both work fine.
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Hey all, I had to sell my 3080 a few months ago in order to pay for some unfortunate dog surgery and have been wanting to build my PC back up. I don’t expect to find a 3080 ever again but is it possible to get a 3070 or a 3060ti if I play the refresh discord game or is it better to just sell the rest of my system and buy one of the 3070 prebuilts that seem to be in stock. I just play at 1440p 60 so a 3080 was probably overkill anyway.
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Paul MaudDib posted:ebay prices are already coming back down, they've dropped from $2200 to $2000, and that's with an ebay bucks promo this weekend pushing demand up. mining profits have fallen significantly and the mining demand just isn't there to support those kind of prices anymore, and gamers sure as gently caress ain't lining up to buy them at $2200 a pop Eh, not quite. Open box and used 3080s are selling for just slightly under $2000, but the new/sealed 3080s sold today on Ebay are still around 2200-2300. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=rtx+3080&_sacat=0&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=1000 Meanwhile Founders Edition 3080s are still selling well above $2000 regardless if they're new or used.
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3070 now is harder to get than 3080 then. 3060ti is pretty gettable
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repiv posted:chiplet gpus incoming or 295x rebirth?
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Aesirstorm posted:Yeah, that's not the issue. If you've got a Zen3 CPU, it's also worth trying to force PCIe 3, rather than the default PCIe 4, especially with a riser. Dumb, but that's what it took to get mine working.
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