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Blind Rasputin posted:Yeah lol I figured this out just now. I was totally not aware certain gestures were triggered by motion controls on the PlayStation! I saw my guy do it and my jaw dropped like holy crap. Because I was feeling exactly the same way. yeah I think it's hold down X and waggle the controller. I did it by accident so many times and didn't realise how it was happening till like 3 games and a year later
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Blind Rasputin posted:Haha! I’ve never seen my character do a little hip and Yeehah dance that’s so awesome. Havel took me three attempts to learn to bait out his jumping heavy attack and whack him a bunch immediately after. I just played it slow and baited those out and won. There are no bad weapons! Go nuts!
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goblin week posted:There are no bad weapons! Go nuts!
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for me, ds3 is easily the most fun dark souls game to play. the combat is pretty great still love ds1 the most though. that game had an effect on me still find myself thinking about the ds2 dlcs pretty frequently too
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Yeah I think DS3 is the one that feels the best to engage with moment-to-moment DS1 and pre-remake DeS feel fine but they're too easy, good if you wanna just zone out, haven't played the DeS remake
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feelix posted:Yeah I think DS3 is the one that feels the best to engage with moment-to-moment I love all the games, but the one thing that bugs me more than anything else is how estus flasks work while invading in DS 3. The way DS 2 handled it was great and made the PvP fun for me, but in DS 3 it felt more like a battle of attrition.
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Mesadoram posted:I love all the games, but the one thing that bugs me more than anything else is how estus flasks work while invading in DS 3. The way DS 2 handled it was great and made the PvP fun for me, but in DS 3 it felt more like a battle of attrition.
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Mar 5, 2021 19:14
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feelix posted:huh? In DS2, invaders can't heal at all except with spells while hosts can do whatever they want Yup, it made invading feel like a "challenge" instead of who has more heals. Also the way estus worked in that game healing took longer so it was a terribly big deal if the host popped one.
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Mar 5, 2021 19:29
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DS3 feels like they actually thought about it, unlike DS2 where they just did the first thing I came to mind. That doesn't mean that the considered design they arrived at in DS3 won't be less preferable to some people than the DS2 design.
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feelix posted:DS3 feels like they actually thought about it, unlike DS2 where they just did the first thing I came to mind. That doesn't mean that the considered design they arrived at in DS3 won't be less preferable to some people than the DS2 design. I feel like the DS 3 model just made the invasions last too long. In DS 2 I am in and out in a few minutes, in DS 3 it could go on for like 10-15 minutes depending on the hosts "dedication" to staying alive. I can understand why they went with what they did with DS 3, it's a preference thing I suppose.
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i like the ds3 invasion system well enough most of my fights are over within 3-5 estus chugs lots of weapons and spells seem designed to catch and punish runners trying to break away for estus plus, i try to keep all my fighting in a tight area for specifically that reason: ain't nowhere to run spear of the church is my fav pvp and that doesn't allow estus, but the spear ornament provides plenty of cover for miracle healing so its kind of a wash
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Just wrecked a twinked out PVP build on the road of sacrifices with an uchigatana weapon art parry. This game is good man.
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Mesadoram posted:I feel like the DS 3 model just made the invasions last too long.
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AAAHHH! I can’t believe I did it. It took a lot of tries today, a lot of learning and adjusting my loadout. I got to the point where I could kill the dragon without even getting hit, most times, but then the Nameless King would just wreck me. Usually because I would be out of sync with him and not blocking or rolling perfectly in time with him. What a hell of a fight. On this run, I honestly had THE worst start possible. Probably the worst I’d had in an hour or so. I miss-timed the rolls for all his lightning slams, was getting fully owned by the drat camera, the dragon didn’t even fall down for the critical at ~50% health like in every other run! Like, gently caress me lol. And then I got to Nameless King and right out the gate got slapped so hard I figured I’d be dead like every other run. But, you can see the exact moment I got on the ball and focused up. And then I dodged nearly every hit and beat his rear end. I couldn’t believe it. I screamed so loud I scared my cat. https://youtu.be/Q_G_ex48So0
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Man I hate the Twin Princes fight so much. The only real enemy here is the camera. Nothing like an enemy teleporting directly behind you where you can't see them mid-attack and taking away another two minutes of your life while you ride a long rear end elevator yet again.
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feelix posted:huh? In DS2, invaders can't heal at all except with spells while hosts can do whatever they want at least in sotfs hosts and phantoms are both locked out of healing while an invader is present (including npc invaders)
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giZm posted:Undead Hunter Charms are your friend. they're very easy to dodge, and even if you get hit you can just run away/roll until they wear off. legit ds3 has a massive problem with invaders and hosts drinking during invasions and i much prefer ds2's system
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Mesadoram posted:Yup, it made invading feel like a "challenge" instead of who has more heals. Also the way estus worked in that game healing took longer so it was a terribly big deal if the host popped one. it's the most boring meta when an invader in the first zone has max charges on an estus flask with max effectiveness versus your unupgraded, minimum uses estus. top-tier pvp strategy, just have 20x the resources of the person you're trying to kill
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hosts in ds3 also have a huge advantage in that they can run back to the bonfire and summon white's indefinitely, they can also passively summon blues Or even just escape by running away to a boss fog gate honestly the only fun I have invading in DS3 is fight clubs, or the chaos of the swamp, where you invade and theres sometimes a wild 4 way fight going on between host+summons/reds/purples/watchdogs
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I like invading Archives because it becomes shutes & ladders but for keeps.
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Frida Call Me posted:it's the most boring meta when an invader in the first zone has max charges on an estus flask with max effectiveness versus your unupgraded, minimum uses estus. top-tier pvp strategy, just have 20x the resources of the person you're trying to kill Yup  , I don't get how that is satisfying for people.
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Twinks have always been an issue in souls games, but I suppose DS3 took it to whole new level.
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And Tyler Too! posted:I like invading Archives because it becomes shutes & ladders but for keeps. 
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Mesadoram posted:Yup Some people like to piss in the kiddie pool.
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Mesadoram posted:Yup Some people are acutely aware that they are garbage and so in order to have fun, must exploit flaws in the system to have any chance of winning and then they can go "pwned get rekt" and revel in the frustration they've caused on low level beginners
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codo27 posted:Some people are acutely aware that they are garbage and so in order to have fun, must exploit flaws in the system to have any chance of winning and then they can go "pwned get rekt" and revel in the frustration they've caused on low level beginners *points down* le epic pwn 
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I still haven’t tried any pvp activities besides having the way of blue thing assigned. I got invaded exactly one time while embered after killing Crystal sage and I died because the person seemed to have way better loot than me, and parried literally every single hit I tried to get in. I think I’m all the way through grand archives, and the next boss in the huge castle up the stairs from the elevator shortcut must be Prince Lothric. I imagine this is “final boss hard.” Any tips?
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If I remember the right one, the castle lothric boss is one of the most fun bosses and has a gimmick that I don't want to spoil. Not especially hard, but they have a combo where they can break lockon and then oneshot you before you find them again.
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Blind Rasputin posted:I still haven’t tried any pvp activities besides having the way of blue thing assigned. I got invaded exactly one time while embered after killing Crystal sage and I died because the person seemed to have way better loot than me, and parried literally every single hit I tried to get in. Facehug Lorian, bring a black knight or dragon crest shield if you don't trust your dodging.
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Smol posted:Twinks have always been an issue in souls games, but I suppose DS3 took it to whole new level. compare to original ds1 where you could invade undead burg with a maxed out chaos weapon and 1 or 2 shot people who would do single digit damage to you thru your maxed out armor, and also you had a stack of 99 humanities that full heal you
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Well I faced Lorain and lothric once just a bit ago. Which one is which? I think lothric is the skinny unhealthy looking mage? The first fight was.. very easy. Against Lorain I assume (I guess I thought the one with the crown would be lothric the prince). Huge openings and seemed just really to be a slow fight. I either blocked or dodged and somehow poise broke him 2/3 of the way through and killed him. But, lol, the second stage.. first off, awesome cutscene. I started fighting and got confused at the two health bars and started thinking that meant lothric would be a separate boss somewhere else in the arena. I just stood there looking for him and couldn’t find him anywhere. Then I realized, as a giant white fire sword slammed me like through the floor, killing me, that he had never left lorian’s back.
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In the second phase - damaging Lorian doesn't matter as much because he just gets resurrected, it's all about dodging through/circling around and hitting Lothric from behind.
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IronicDongz posted:not at all lol also you had 99 soft humanity that gave you the passive defense bonus of a lvl100 character while you were sl1
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Use a lightning resin/bundle for the second part of Twin Princes.
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And Tyler Too! posted:I like invading Archives because it becomes shutes & ladders but for keeps. Yeah actually archives shenanigans can be fun
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Twin princes is such a great fight thematically and mechanically. Going into this one blind was a real treat. "The gently caress is this rear end in a top hat? Emma didn't tell nothin bout no big bro" Then in phase 2 "Oh poo poo it's like the lothric castle mobs but boss edition, fuckin cool"
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Yeah, I loved it. I avoided all spoilers for all the bosses and it took me a bit to figure out who is who (I assumed the crown meant prince, but I was wrong). The fight is also hard, but definitely learnable. Phase one has only a few moves and only a few different timings for each move, and phase two was much easier. Just surviving enough to kill off the brother once put lothric in the open and clinched it for me. Soul of Cinder, however, gently caress I could not learn that hardly at all. I felt like every attack had a different timing from initial-move to final swing, and there was few if any ways to tell what attack would be what, and attacks seemed almost perfectly timed to intercept the end of a roll or the last frame of chugging estus. Brutal. I felt like I got a lucky roll on the first phase when I finally won. I would take the Nameless King over it any day. I just started ashes of ariendel. Is there a lore description of this place or if why I’m there? I gathered there is a lady there who is “of the flame”, like myself, but the world and its people are literally rotting and they want me to “burn the world away” as in burn the rot away and relight the world with fire and warmth and goodness. The lady tricked people or something. The dead featherless bird corpses that wake up and attack you in the first watery stream area in the town are people who’ve rotted. I take it. Why are there farron knights and Nordic soldiers up above the town, then.
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Blind Rasputin posted:Yeah, I loved it. I avoided all spoilers for all the bosses and it took me a bit to figure out who is who (I assumed the crown meant prince, but I was wrong). The fight is also hard, but definitely learnable. Phase one has only a few moves and only a few different timings for each move, and phase two was much easier. Just surviving enough to kill off the brother once put lothric in the open and clinched it for me. You’re inside a decaying scrap of a painting being carried by the weird old slave knight Gael. Gael wants you to find his lady and help her paint a new painting since this one is all gross. Sister Friede wants you should go away and let it rot in peace.
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gently caress that I want to paint a new painting. This isn’t the dragonscale helm it’s bob ross hair.
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