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I never understood the point of achievements or 100% completion besides bragging rights. Back in my day, beating an NES hard game was an achievement in itself. We didn't need no stinkin' popups telling us we did a thing in a game to have fun. 
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Mar 10, 2021 22:01
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wafflemoose posted:I never understood the point of achievements or 100% completion besides bragging rights. Back in my day, beating an NES hard game was an achievement in itself. We didn't need no stinkin' popups telling us we did a thing in a game to have fun. I like achievements when they come as a bit of a surprise, like I was just dicking around and found something neat the developers snuck in and the game is like "Hey, right on, you found that thing we hid for people who explore the space" or "You pulled off this sick move that's actually pretty difficult", but I hate the ones that are like "Hey you beat the level." or "You killed X amount of baddies, have an achievement", like you didn't do anything out of the ordinary in playing the game and they just kind of hand you one for the sake of having achievements.
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Mar 10, 2021 22:04
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wafflemoose posted:I never understood the point of achievements or 100% completion besides bragging rights. The bragging rights are the point. Except it's mostly just people imagining the bragging rights because overwhelmingly nobody looks at anyone else's achievements and wouldn't give a poo poo even if they did.
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Mar 10, 2021 22:08
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When achievements first came out I was really confused because I thought people would want to hide the embarrassment of how much time they sank into doing worthless poo poo in videogames, not wear it like some kind of badge of honor. I guess I was wrong.
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Mar 10, 2021 22:18
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Willatron posted:I like achievements when they come as a bit of a surprise, like I was just dicking around and found something neat the developers snuck in and the game is like "Hey, right on, you found that thing we hid for people who explore the space" or "You pulled off this sick move that's actually pretty difficult", but I hate the ones that are like "Hey you beat the level." or "You killed X amount of baddies, have an achievement", like you didn't do anything out of the ordinary in playing the game and they just kind of hand you one for the sake of having achievements. I don't mind the chapter break type ones, but if I think about them too long they seem super shady from a skinner box perspective.
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Mar 10, 2021 22:24
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Willatron posted:I like achievements when they come as a bit of a surprise, like I was just dicking around and found something neat the developers snuck in and the game is like "Hey, right on, you found that thing we hid for people who explore the space" or "You pulled off this sick move that's actually pretty difficult", but I hate the ones that are like "Hey you beat the level." or "You killed X amount of baddies, have an achievement", like you didn't do anything out of the ordinary in playing the game and they just kind of hand you one for the sake of having achievements. I don't mind the "you beat the level" cheevos because, for the hard games, you can look at the cheevo rates and see how many people gave up on the game before you did.
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Mar 10, 2021 22:24
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The best achievements are the ones that reward you for doing something goofy or difficult while you're playing. "Wow! You flipped the bus you were driving three times while jumping over all the giraffes! Have some points!"
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Mar 10, 2021 22:29
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Nice Van My Man posted:New unpopular game idea: 1 vs 100 simultaneous rally racer where it is encouraged to just try to force your opponents off the track or into fatal collisions along narrow rally roads that have not been widened. this level of f-zero GX loving sucked
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Mar 10, 2021 22:32
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I like achievements that encourage you to play a little differently than you would otherwise, or encourage you to engage with game systems in ways you might not normally think of but I hate the really grindy or frustrating ones.
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Mar 10, 2021 22:33
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Paradox sometimes does some cool achievements in their historical grand strategy games, a lot of "make the opposite of real history happen" stuff. Such as an achievement for conquering Europe as the Aztecs, or conquering Canada and the UK as India
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Mar 10, 2021 22:41
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signalnoise posted:I mean just google up "nioh 2 nure-onna" Sadako-snake's pretty cool not gonna lie
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Mar 10, 2021 22:44
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wafflemoose posted:I never understood the point of achievements or 100% completion besides bragging rights. Back in my day, beating an NES hard game was an achievement in itself. We didn't need no stinkin' popups telling us we did a thing in a game to have fun. Also pretty much this forever
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Mar 10, 2021 22:45
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giogadi posted:I don't mind the "you beat the level" cheevos because, for the hard games, you can look at the cheevo rates and see how many people gave up on the game before you did.  Also apparently game devs use these kind of cheevo as an analytics tool, which is whatever at this point. #engagement
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Mar 10, 2021 22:49
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Also I platinum-ed some of my favorite games on PS3 because either playing it normally put me really close to finishing it off completely or I just plain liked the game. All it brought me, however, was the desire to never play the game again afterwards. The best cheevos IMO are the jokey ones, like the Marco Polo one in Uncharted 2 which was really funny in context. Space Kablooey fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Mar 10, 2021 |
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Mar 10, 2021 22:52
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Willatron posted:I like achievements when they come as a bit of a surprise, like I was just dicking around and found something neat the developers snuck in
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Mar 10, 2021 22:53
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QuarkJets posted:Paradox sometimes does some cool achievements in their historical grand strategy games, a lot of "make the opposite of real history happen" stuff. Such as an achievement for conquering Europe as the Aztecs, or conquering Canada and the UK as India Yeah these are examples of good ones. Because they offer something other than "you played the video game, congrats" or pointless bragging rights. They offer tangible objectives to shoot for, if you want to, in games which otherwise are complete sandboxes.
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Mar 10, 2021 23:20
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Willatron posted:I like achievements when they come as a bit of a surprise, like I was just dicking around and found something neat the developers snuck in and the game is like "Hey, right on, you found that thing we hid for people who explore the space" or "You pulled off this sick move that's actually pretty difficult", but I hate the ones that are like "Hey you beat the level." or "You killed X amount of baddies, have an achievement", like you didn't do anything out of the ordinary in playing the game and they just kind of hand you one for the sake of having achievements. Yeah I like when that happens although mainly the ones that pop up are so boring and standard like "finished the tutorial." Congrats to me!!!  But the other day playing Deep Rock Galactic I was messing about in the lobby area and accidentally got an achievement for kicking four barrels into the launch vehicle before a mission and I laughed Achievements are fine either way. It's caring deeply about them that I personally find silly and embarrassing
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Mar 10, 2021 23:23
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I like to go after achievements as a way of exploring more of a game I enjoy and I'll stop doing it once it feels like a chore.
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Mar 10, 2021 23:39
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It bums me out when the devs decide to put in an achievement that boils down to "play through the entire game in a way that's less fun than playing normally" and people see that and decide to go for it on their first and only playthrough of the game (I'm looking at you, Prey).
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Mar 10, 2021 23:40
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Fun achievements to me are completing objectives in weird ways. There's a bunch in COH 2 that involve using units that are not meta at all, kinda pissing off your allies when it's clear what hosed up thing you are doing, and still winning.
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Mar 10, 2021 23:44
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Triarii posted:It bums me out when the devs decide to put in an achievement that boils down to "play through the entire game in a way that's less fun than playing normally" and people see that and decide to go for it on their first and only playthrough of the game (I'm looking at you, Prey). Dishonored, DXHR, Metro: Last Light, all games that are much worse than they ought to be if you've been tricked into thinking the pacifist perk is what you should be aiming for
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Mar 10, 2021 23:45
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Triarii posted:It bums me out when the devs decide to put in an achievement that boils down to "play through the entire game in a way that's less fun than playing normally" and people see that and decide to go for it on their first and only playthrough of the game (I'm looking at you, Prey). Hollow Knight has a speedrun as an achievement, which really sucks. The game is great but it doesn't have any real replay value, so it's either leave the achievements incomplete or slog through the game again in a worse way.
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Mar 10, 2021 23:45
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poverty goat posted:Dishonored, DXHR, Metro: Last Light, all games that are much worse than they ought to be if you've been tricked into thinking the pacifist perk is what you should be aiming for Dishonored is especially dogshit because you end up being unable to use over half the abilities/gadgets.
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Mar 10, 2021 23:46
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That being said, a High Chaos run in that game is obscenely easy even on the hardest difficulty, so there's no real way to play Dishonored and have it feel right.
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Mar 10, 2021 23:48
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My brain has been broken and now I think my Steam account as one massive game and each title is a side quest that grants me xp (achievements). I don't actually compare those with anyone, but it's fun to check achievementstats.com and be reminded about the stuff I've done. It's pretty silly, but gives me a reason to play the games I own and I find it enjoyable. Also makes me less likely to want to play games that are not on Steam, so well played Gabe.
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Mar 10, 2021 23:49
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Kennel posted:My brain has been broken and now I think my Steam account as one massive game and each title is a side quest that grants me xp (achievements). I don't actually compare those with anyone, but it's fun to check achievementstats.com and be reminded about the stuff I've done. I'm pressing F for your broken brain.
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Mar 10, 2021 23:52
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downloaded control from ps plus last month and got around to starting it a couple of days ago. It's really awesome. My only criticism so far is that the display options are weird. It's either super or dark or really washed out. Even on the brightness setting it says I should see 3 symbols? I've only ever seen 2 despite how bright I make it. I was playing on the default brightness and couldn't understand why I was dying to that fridge boss that just looked like an eyeball to me. I turned to the brightness up to 100 and was like oh, he has arms! I couldn't even see them on the default setting. Now I got that sorted but the game looks way worse than it did before lol
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Mar 11, 2021 00:09
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Excelzior posted:Secret of Evermore was the better "Secret of" game no the best one is the secret hidden Terranigma! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo1Ugz28F-o
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Mar 11, 2021 00:25
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terranigma is better than chrono trigger although i like both
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Mar 11, 2021 00:31
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I think Ninety percent of games should be tuned 50% harder, It's far more satisfying to beat something when it takes actual effort than to mindlessly push buttons until the credits Edit: I say this as someone with an Avatar from a Visual Novel I'll have spent 300 hours on by the time I'm done Gaius Marius fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Mar 11, 2021 |
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Mar 11, 2021 00:39
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i love mindless gaming. like half the time i play gta i just get a fast motorcycle and drive on the main freeway around and around the whole island weaving through traffic and listening to music, its super relaxing
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Mar 11, 2021 00:40
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:That being said, a High Chaos run in that game is obscenely easy even on the hardest difficulty, so there's no real way to play Dishonored and have it feel right. A mixture is the perfect way to play that game. Too bad there's only achievements for the two ways that aren't the most fun way to play.
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Mar 11, 2021 00:44
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Earwicker posted:i love mindless gaming. like half the time i play gta i just get a fast motorcycle and drive on the main freeway around and around the whole island weaving through traffic and listening to music, its super relaxing yeah that's a big reason i've been enjoying spyro. just eat an edible and put on some music and collect some gems. very chill
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Mar 11, 2021 00:46
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:, so there's no real way to play Dishonored and have it feel right. No alerts, no kills.
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Mar 11, 2021 01:02
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something about dishonored doesn't feel quite right to me but it's not so much any of the stealth or chaos mechanics it's more something about the movement and animation somehow makes everything feel sort of hollow and too light, like all of the characters are just cardboard cutouts or something, and the weapons dont feel like they have any impact
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Mar 11, 2021 01:04
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The character models look disgusting, as they do in Prey and Dishonored 2. It looks like in Deathloop they finally realized how to make humans who don't look repulsive
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Mar 11, 2021 01:07
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site posted:yeah that's a big reason i've been enjoying spyro. just eat an edible and put on some music and collect some gems. very chill If you're playing the remake the gem finder ability was ported to all 3 games. Click the left stick at any time you have sparx and they'll point to the closest uncollected gem.
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Mar 11, 2021 01:15
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Aw poo poo I remember when it was having to press all the shoulder buttons. Welcome to the future my dudes.
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Mar 11, 2021 01:20
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poverty goat posted:Dishonored, DXHR, Metro: Last Light, all games that are much worse than they ought to be if you've been tricked into thinking the pacifist perk is what you should be aiming for
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lurker2006 posted:I'd be fine with the dishonored games if low chaos allowed you to just kill the higherups who really deserve it as a sort of hitman style end of level reward but that's actually even worse than killing grunts every mission. poo poo. nonlethal is a worse fate than a blade to the gut for most of 'em. The pope man get's turned into a zombie, lady whatshername gets sent to the creepers dungeon forever, The twins get sent to the slave mines. Vicious stuff
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