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Gasmask posted:Can’t believe I thought Dark Souls Remastered would be a fun nostalgic experience. That sounds nostalgic as gently caress. "Haha! Oh dark souls, you got me again!" *throws controller*
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poverty goat posted:Dishonored, DXHR, Metro: Last Light, all games that are much worse than they ought to be if you've been tricked into thinking the pacifist perk is what you should be aiming for Actually Dishonored is a master piece either way
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Mar 11, 2021 09:23
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Tonfa posted:If a game forces the player to use its entire toolset it gates away all but the entrenched hardcores who instinctually and instantly get what it's about. It's cool to have a more relaxed goal standard to see the progression and let all kinds of people dick around and have fun and then tools to gently caress around with and create an alternate challenge if you ever want to return to the game I think you're kinda talking about two different things. I think games should make players use all the tools in the toolbox with some genre-specific exceptions. But you make them scalable so you can actually beat the game without mastering the execution to frame perfection. Like, what's the difference between Super Mario World and Kaizo? Other than the romhacks that specifically mess with mechanics, it just comes down to how the level design challenges your execution.
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Mar 11, 2021 09:24
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Actually Dishonored is a master piece either way More like Master poo poo
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Mar 11, 2021 09:34
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Ya, it's not like you have to have perfect execution of everything. But that the game puts you into a variety of situations across the entire game such that it is not possible to solve them efficiently by ignoring entire parts of the toolset. If you are skilled enough maybe you can brute force your way through using just 1 attack of 3 for example, but in a game with 3 attacks the game should be designed so that each attack is prefered at different times, then difficult enough that you can't just effortlessly ignore those times to spam 1 attack throughout.
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Mar 11, 2021 09:37
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:More like Pissnerd
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Yeah that makes a lot of sense and is more satisfying than one button wins all. Was just thinking on a different magnitude.
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Mar 11, 2021 09:46
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Actually Dishonored is a master piece either way people who don't like dishonored seem dumb to me, they seem like low IQ gamers
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Mar 11, 2021 09:57
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Caesar Saladin posted:people who don't like dishonored seem dumb to me, they seem like low IQ gamers IQ is the French version of the hit television show QI.
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Mar 11, 2021 09:59
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I love trophies and I do a little fist pump whenever one pops
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Mar 11, 2021 10:16
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Caesar Saladin posted:people who don't like dishonored seem dumb to me, they seem like low IQ gamers Its just a very good and entertaining videogame that also doesn't overstay its welcome
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Mar 11, 2021 10:18
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Caesar Saladin posted:people who don't like dishonored seem dumb to me, they seem like low IQ gamers It's a cool aesthetic but the games are unfun and boring as hell and I have a very high IQ. Unless you are talking about my Gamer IQ which might be low idk I havent been tested
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Mar 11, 2021 10:30
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Caesar Saladin posted:people who don't like dishonored seem dumb to me, they seem like low IQ gamers Dishonored is for low IQ gamers because the cocks in it fart when you squeeze cock
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Mar 11, 2021 10:32
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Caesar Saladin posted:people who don't like dishonored seem dumb to me, they seem like low IQ gamers
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Mar 11, 2021 10:33
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Are you people who hate on Dishonored the same fucks gushing over the badly designed and boring Yakuza games?
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Persona 5 Royal was an amazing experience. I was just watching so I took a lot of naps but I'm sure all of it held up the same. Definite 10/10. Also I like Bethesda games just because no one really does the same thing. Outer Worlds tried to wholesale copy and it was okay. I never finished it. But everyone says that there's better RPGs than Skyrim or Morrowind etc, and there are, but they aren't a better Elder Scrolls. I wasn't indoctrinated as a kid, I just played them and went hey I like how this plays and that was it. And nothing really does it the same. The games are buggy, ugly and often poorly written. They get dumbed down in each generation. But unless you can point me to another game that will scratch the Bethesda itch and not a general "better WRPG" itch I will always like those games.
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Are you people who hate on Dishonored the same fucks gushing over the badly designed and boring Yakuza games? No the Yakuza games are random poo poo bolted onto a semi-competent beat em up skeleton lol. But drat them corny rear end stories and super melodrama are entertaining.
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Opinion: games are a pastime and it's unnecessary to mock people for the games they like to play. Yakuza games are clunky and boring, though. They'd be much better if they were Doom-clones.
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:No the Yakuza games are random poo poo bolted onto a semi-competent beat em up skeleton lol. What the gently caress dude! The beat em up bits are far and away the most boring bits of Yakuza games just ahead of the boring stories that people wouldn't give a poo poo about if they were presented in English.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Yakuza games are clunky and boring, though. They'd be much better if they were Doom-clones. Ah yes the time honored romanticized genre of manly muscle men...shooting at each other with chainguns or some poo poo 
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Mar 11, 2021 10:53
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Are you people who hate on Dishonored the same fucks gushing over the badly designed and boring Yakuza games? No both Dishonored and Yakuza are bad games
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Tonfa posted:Ah yes the time honored romanticized genre of manly muscle men...shooting at each other with chainguns or some poo poo wät
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Mar 11, 2021 10:53
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You understand how the game where people punch each other a lot would not work as a doom clone, right
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Tonfa posted:You understand how the game where people punch each other a lot would not work as a doom clone, right It would work just fine. Punching people is extremely boring. You shoot them instead, making it a Doom-clone, and it automatically turns much much better.
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Mar 11, 2021 10:55
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fridge corn posted:No both Dishonored and Yakuza are bad games I gained a lot of respect for you when you forced yourself though persona 5 after losing 12 hours but that goodwill has been severely eroded!
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Mar 11, 2021 10:58
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JollyBoyJohn posted:I gained a lot of respect for you when you forced yourself though persona 5 after losing 12 hours but that goodwill has been severely eroded! 
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lurker2006 posted:It doesn't help that it features one of the worst story telling devices in gaming being constantly shoved in your face, the emotional plight of the blankslate killing machine you're operating. It doesn't even matter, its about the individual levels and killing the bad dude in the level. The plot is barely relevant. I honestly can't fathom someone wringing their hands over the protagonist's moral plight when you're like, trying to assassinate an evil factory operator in a beautiful steampunk mansion. JollyBoyJohn posted:Are you people who hate on Dishonored the same fucks gushing over the badly designed and boring Yakuza games? I love both tbh. I like Dishonored more though. Dishonored 2 is such a beautiful engagin game. Tonfa posted:You understand how the game where people punch each other a lot would not work as a doom clone, right When I hear doom clone i don't think of a cool fps, I think of a dumbass maze game where you look for coloured keycards on levels that make no sense. Caesar Saladin fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Mar 11, 2021 |
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Dishonored 2 has the best level in the series but the story didn't quite hook me like the first which is a shame because most cool guy gamers prefer the sequel
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Generally speaking, first person games are inferior to third person games
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fridge corn posted:Generally speaking, first person games are inferior to third person games  
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Caesar Saladin posted:people who don't like dishonored seem dumb to me, they seem like low IQ gamers You leave my Indy Quotient(tm) out of this!
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i really liked the level designs in the dishonored games but always felt the abilities they gave the player character were too much. oh i can crawl around the support beams on the ceiling to avoid detection? well i liked to but i usually get caught and gently caress up the run... guess ill just blink around lamely.
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Tonfa posted:You understand how the game where people punch each other a lot would not work as a doom clone, right 
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破るて裂ける!!!
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Mar 11, 2021 14:47
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Barudak posted:破るて裂ける!!! wow rude
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Ooh, here it comes! Here comes the night train!
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fridge corn posted:Generally speaking, first person games are inferior to third person games Third person always makes the gunplay feel worse but third person gives you better situational awareness about the character's immediate area. It's a good tradeoff in a game like HITMAN
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poverty goat posted:Third person always makes the gunplay feel worse but third person gives you better situational awareness about the character's immediate area. It's a good tradeoff in a game like HITMAN The trick is that Hitman isn't really meant to be a shooter. Guns are just another tool in your arsenal.
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HITMAN is a puzzle game instead of jigsaws you have murders
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