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Kilometers Davis posted:Aloy is my favorite first party character probably, she owns. I loved the story of Horizon in general. Awwwwwwww yeaaahhhhhh  I went handaxe all the way up to +10 until the ... Bloodborne Boyz? I might have to come up with a new name for the goons who watch and help....took me to blighttown to get me the great club. After that I put away my shield and twohanded a club from here till the end!!
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exquisite tea posted:If you often find yourself complaining about how all games these days are about Number Go Up then Horizon should be pablum to you (because all the quest rewards are worthless). Idk if these people exist, Sekiro in general and the weird criticisms of Horizon’s combat that I’ve seen people bring up make me think that people might complain about it but they actually really love seeing numbers go up. That, or it’s usually the sort of ‘git gud’ people who don’t follow their own mantra. VideoGames posted:Awwwwwwww yeaaahhhhhh Anyone in the PS4 thread who’s obsessed with From by default is in da Bloodborne Boyz, and 95% of the time Bloodborne is probably their favorite soulsborne game anyways. imhotep fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Mar 11, 2021 |
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Number Go Up is good and people who can't admit that to themselves are intellectual cowards. There are many ways to make a number increase, all of them good.
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Mar 11, 2021 16:55
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Kilometers Davis posted:Me and my generic rear end longsword are building quite the relationship!
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Kilometers Davis posted:Aloy is my favorite first party character probably, she owns. I loved the story of Horizon in general. Nice! Yeah I think the DS1 bosses all have that great feeling of "ok I lost but if I do this, this, and this differently I think I can beat this." The Bell Gargoyles specifically ease you into positioning, capitalizing on openings, and not just spamming dodge roll like crazy (because you'll throw yourself off the freakin' roof like a moron)
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Mar 11, 2021 16:57
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Numbers Go Up is good but I don't care so much when the number going up is a percentage because it seems more opaque to me
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Mar 11, 2021 16:58
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Nobody likes spending an ability point and getting nothing but +5% to Walking Silently out of it. What does that even do?
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Mar 11, 2021 16:59
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The number getting bigger isn't enough there needs to be Good gamefeel too. Diablo? Oozing with gamefeel. Borderlands? Not enough gamefeel
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exquisite tea posted:Number Go Up is good and people who can't admit that to themselves are intellectual cowards. There are many ways to make a number increase, all of them good. I love number go up. It's one of my favourite things in video games. I stopped playing fallout new vegas just as I got to new Vegas cuz I spent so much time doing everything else to make number go up that I hit the level cap and couldn't make number go up any higher 
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Mar 11, 2021 17:01
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You are thinking about number wrong, you actually want number go down It takes 5 arrows to kill this guy It takes Number go DOWN! Idiot!
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Mar 11, 2021 17:01
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HZD is an amazing game with an amazing story that is told by playing through the pretty good story told while you play as an amazingly cool character. And it has a great DLC.
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Mar 11, 2021 17:10
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HZD feels best when you’re reading things apart.
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Mar 11, 2021 18:07
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I don't even know if I would've minded the loot/crafting if it wasn't there at all in HZD, like if you just got fixed XP or something, it's just prevalent enough to be annoying. Even just making it cosmetic and littering it everywhere would've been fine; finishing the hunting lodge quest and get a cool hunter headdress and bow skin. Find all the coffee cups for the one guy and you get a funny mug-themed cloak or something. Finish all the underground future base areas and get a glowy bow or something. It all just seems so...obvious and almost there with stuff like the power armor and the villain armor you get an hour before the game ends. It's probably the only good game I can think of where I can still say that the Witcher 3 has a better loot and crafting system, and those are the two worst things about the Witcher 3.
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Mar 11, 2021 18:45
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the mods give you an extrinsic, if fairly flimsy reason to continue monster hunting
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Mar 11, 2021 18:52
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If you're looking to get back into DS2, go to the wikidot, peruse the lists of weapons and spells, pick out three regular weapons, a twinkling weapon, and a boss soul weapon that you're interested in and can be gotten before the Shrine of Winter, plus any spells in the school of your choice (even just one attunement slot for Toxic Mist is great), plot out the fastest way to get all of them, then add on another three regulars, a twinkling, and a boss soul from after the Shrine. Making builds and putting the pieces in place is the best part of the game.
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number go up good = borderlands the numbers popping out are bigger and bigger and divorced entirely from context number go up bad = hzd no numbers popping out and no real way of measuring your effectiveness from contextual clues number go up mouthfeel = dibbo mouthfeel mouthfeel mouthfeel
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Mar 11, 2021 19:08
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if i see numbers in a game i turn it off, that's a shoot. if i wanted to do maths, i'd take out my calculator!!!
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Wolfsheim posted:I don't even know if I would've minded the loot/crafting if it wasn't there at all in HZD, like if you just got fixed XP or something, it's just prevalent enough to be annoying. Even just making it cosmetic and littering it everywhere would've been fine; finishing the hunting lodge quest and get a cool hunter headdress and bow skin. Find all the coffee cups for the one guy and you get a funny mug-themed cloak or something. Finish all the underground future base areas and get a glowy bow or something. It all just seems so...obvious and almost there with stuff like the power armor and the villain armor you get an hour before the game ends. i'm not very far into hzd but yeah the thing that turns me off the most is the whole crafting and loot thing. i'm predisposed to not like those because i just have very little interest in crafting in general, but in hzd it feels especially like an unnecessary layer of complication that periodically requires you to engage with it whether you like it or not. maybe it'll click with me later though
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Mar 11, 2021 19:15
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Control still takes the cake for most tacked on crafting system but at least you can ignore it for the most part.
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Weedle posted:i'm not very far into hzd but yeah the thing that turns me off the most is the whole crafting and loot thing. i'm predisposed to not like those because i just have very little interest in crafting in general, but in hzd it feels especially like an unnecessary layer of complication that periodically requires you to engage with it whether you like it or not. maybe it'll click with me later though i hate crafting in games with a passion, like legitimately it's my least favourite activity to do in games ever. HZD, you can definitely look past it after a while. The game is really excellent and I usually don't like open-world games at all, like I find the AssCreed games really boring. Stick with it for a bit longer.
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PantsBandit posted:Control still takes the cake for most tacked on crafting system but at least you can ignore it for the most part. A good rule of thumb is that if you're making a game about a sassy hyper-capable redhead who inadvertently stumbles upon an unseen world of secrets and saves civilization in the process to just please avoid putting crafting in it altogether
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Mar 11, 2021 19:28
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I saw a talk by one of the designers on HZD and he basically said "yeah, we hosed up with the economy, our bad. It was way too complicated and it was way too late to fix it by the time we realized it." So at least they shouldn't make the same mistake again.
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Looting and crafting is over done IMO. Tired of sorting through piles of vendor trash or having to punch 50 trees to get +number on a boot.
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PantsBandit posted:Control still takes the cake for most tacked on crafting system but at least you can ignore it for the most part. Yeah it's so weird. For 99% of the game you can't even craft anything that's better than what you've been finding.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:i hate crafting in games with a passion, like legitimately it's my least favourite activity to do in games ever. HZD, you can definitely look past it after a while. The game is really excellent and I usually don't like open-world games at all, like I find the AssCreed games really boring. Stick with it for a bit longer. i definitely intend to keep at it. by “not very far” i mean that for me it’s still a game about a tribal hunter-gatherer lady who lives in the woods and hunts wild robots with a bluetooth earpiece, and i understand there is a lot more going on than that
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I think Plague Tale's crafting system was also notably unnecessary
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I haven't posted much about Bloodborne since I beat Vicar Amelia but I smashed my face against Orphan of Kos over and over last night; he'll be mine next time.
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Chin Strap posted:I think Plague Tale's crafting system was also notably unnecessary
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Good news (for now) regarding console releases of Disco Elysium: https://www.reddit.com/r/DiscoElysi...utm_term=lxgdej
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Mar 11, 2021 19:47
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The best crafting system is DQXI because it's a fun little minigame
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Read After Burning posted:Good news (for now) regarding console releases of Disco Elysium: Yessss
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exquisite tea posted:Horizon is not a very loot-oriented game. Gear is maybe 20% of your overall effectiveness in a combat system that's 20% execution and the remaining 60% knowledge. You get all the tools you need relatively early, and from there the game is about how well you can identify exploit the machines' weaknesses. If you're complaining that it's taking too long to kill a Stormbird, chances are it has very little to do with your gear and everything to do with knowing the right strategy. And the great thing about the game is that every machine has at least 2-3 effective strategies for taking them down. I've gone up and down the map with blue tier gear on Ultra Hard and can still easily beat all the elites. If you often find yourself complaining about how all games these days are about Number Go Up then Horizon should be panacea to you (because all the quest rewards are worthless). Where's the percentage for concentrated power of will...
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Mar 11, 2021 20:10
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The only percentages to know are 50% Slam and 100% Reason to Remember the Jam.
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Cardiovorax posted:Plague Tale's central premise heavily revolves around medieval alchemy and mysticism, so crafting reagents and alchemical concoctions is very thematically in-tune with the story it tells. I was thinking the permanent upgrades not the consumables.
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Mar 11, 2021 20:16
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A Plague Tale is surprisingly stingy about upgrades, it's super unlikely you'll unlock much more than half of them unless you're looking really thoroughly.
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Mar 11, 2021 20:18
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It needs crafting to fulfill its purpose of being The Medieval Last Of Us
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I feel like I should replay HZD because I trudged through in the first time when I first picked up my PS4 and just hated the combat. I had never played anything with that weighty feel to it and it felt very unnatural. The story was blah as hell to me and I never really liked any of the characters so that didn't help, but it might be worth it to go back and try the game play loop now that I'm more comfortable with other games that have a similar feel. Or it won't click because I find the weirdest games to completely fall in love with and HZD just wasn't one of them.
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Mar 11, 2021 20:27
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Chin Strap posted:I was thinking the permanent upgrades not the consumables.
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haveblue posted:It needs crafting to fulfill its purpose of being The Medieval Last Of Us I guess that makes Hood: Legends and Outlaws medieval TLOU Factions
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