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THS posted:there will be no war with china. anyway here is why china is the equivalent of Nazi Germany, perhaps worse i have more respect for the insane war hawks who want to invade, a position consistent with wanting to stop the massive 21st century holocaust.
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like it’s very clear that the PRC is suppressing elements of Uighur culture. punishing posters for pointing out that they’re not mass killing Uighurs is dumb
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Mar 12, 2021 19:33
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bad probes, bad bans, bad modding, bad vibes
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Mar 12, 2021 19:36
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Victory Position posted:I wouldn't exactly say that Batista just rolled over and died like you mention, but he definitely did not put up as big of a fight as you would expect, he did just sort of hop on a plane and vanish as his control crumbled in his grasp when did I say batista rolled over and died? his regime fought tooth and nail for years and they tortured and killed a poo poo ton of people associated with the revolution and even those who werent involved. he was a monster and so were his supporters. the revolution was good. imo its just not something that marxists can draw a lot of broad lessons from and it doesnt represent the kind of revolutionary movement that marxists are trying to build.
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Terror had seized the privileged precincts of society—the postmidnight knock, the search and confiscations in the presence of summoned neighbors (“witnesses” were required by law), the wailing of spouses and children, the disappearances without trace, the fruitless pleading for information at NKVD reception windows, the desperate queues outside transit prisons and unheard screams inside, the bribes to guards for scraps of information on whereabouts. But ordinary Soviet inhabitants mostly did not feel an immediate threat of arrest. As the morbid joke had it, when uniformed men arrived and said “NKVD,” people answered, “You’ve got the wrong apartment—the Communists live upstairs.”
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crusty nutsack and flavius failass can eat my poo poo off of adrian zenz’s chest
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Mar 12, 2021 19:59
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Ferrinus posted:there is actually no contradiction between a nationalist movement and a socialist movement when the nation in question is subject to imperialism, and it's no accident that fight whose first objective was just independence from us control turned next to socialism. nothing else could have done it i understand that national liberation movements can lead to socialist movements and that socialists should support the struggle of national liberation movements. however the point im making and the point a lot of other historians would make is that castro and much of the rest of the 26h of july movement never actually set out to break cuba free of their relationship with the US, only to overthrow batista. the break with the us came about because of a lot of factors some of which were the presence of actual socialists in the movement and a lot of which was american incompetence regarding its foreign policy towards cuba. my general feeling is that castro likely had a post batista cuba that more closely resembled mandelas post apartheid south africa in mind than what actually occurred. read about frank sturgis to see just how loving insane and incoherent the us approach to cuba was at this time.
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Mar 12, 2021 20:01
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Trash Ops posted:crusty nutsack and flavius failass can eat my poo poo off of adrian zenz’s chest mayor dave sucks rear end too. gently caress em all, they all suck
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i don't disagree, but the point I'M making is that that kind of socialism through scope creep is in fact perfectly cromulent and much more realistic than a scenario in which a critical mass of workers are turned into socialists through political education and do a general strike because they're tired of the dang value form
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I'm sorry if I missed it but I don't see that "Castro did not set out to be a socialist" and "the revolutionary Cuban government has never been socialist" are necessarily in conflict?
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Trash Ops posted:crusty nutsack and flavius failass can eat my poo poo off of adrian zenz’s chest a Loving Dog posted:mayor dave sucks rear end too. gently caress em all, they all suck 
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Mar 12, 2021 20:13
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when cspam eventually gets the ax merge its remnants with fyad
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Mar 12, 2021 20:15
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gradenko_2000 posted:We aren't going to war with China, right? not with china, no, that would be disastrous for the empire some good cold war proxy wars on the horizon tho Junkozeyne posted:Looking at the leper's colony it is good to know that CSPAM will do its part in upholding american hegemony lmao. yeah no poo poo lmao Truga fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Mar 12, 2021 |
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Mar 12, 2021 20:19
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Junkozeyne posted:Looking at the leper's colony it is good to know that CSPAM will do its part in upholding american hegemony lmao.
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just want to remind everyone that biden literally started a mass murder genocide in yemen intended to cause a mass famine by targeting food production and logistics in that country and yet i have seen no punishment on these forums on the basis of supporting this genocidal rapist
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comedyblissoption posted:just want to remind everyone that biden literally started a mass murder genocide in yemen intended to cause a mass famine by targeting food production and logistics in that country and yet i have seen no punishment on these forums on the basis of supporting this genocidal rapist check your premises: joe biden is white
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Ferrinus posted:check your premises: joe biden is white so was Hitler, why'd you think he got away with so much
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Mar 12, 2021 20:35
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Truga posted:so was Hitler, why'd you think he got away with so much hitler inconvenienced other white people, a mistake which biden won't repeat
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Mar 12, 2021 20:36
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anyways people should be able to discuss these topics and express skepticism including their support of biden without punishment looks like the mods want to stamp out people that dont toe the state department line though without realizing the irony that they are saying they are okay with supporting the wagers of genocide and mass murder (e.g. yemen, venezuela, bolivia) if it's in the form us official us state dept policy since they will selectively not punish for these stances
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Mar 12, 2021 20:37
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if you think about it the houthi are really genociding themselves
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wow looks like there's a famine in yemen how could this have happened oh woopsie daise will you look at that why is there a multi-sectarian civil war in libya 
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اليمنoloh
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Mar 12, 2021 20:42
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apropos to nothing posted:i understand that national liberation movements can lead to socialist movements and that socialists should support the struggle of national liberation movements. however the point im making and the point a lot of other historians would make is that castro and much of the rest of the 26h of july movement never actually set out to break cuba free of their relationship with the US, only to overthrow batista. the break with the us came about because of a lot of factors some of which were the presence of actual socialists in the movement and a lot of which was american incompetence regarding its foreign policy towards cuba. my general feeling is that castro likely had a post batista cuba that more closely resembled mandelas post apartheid south africa in mind than what actually occurred. read about frank sturgis to see just how loving insane and incoherent the us approach to cuba was at this time. it's cool learning that in every era of us diplomacy the ppl in the state department were dumb as bricks and often didnt even speak the language of the territory they worked in. explains a lot about our imperial designs
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In Training posted:it's cool learning that in every era of us diplomacy the ppl in the state department were dumb as bricks and often didnt even speak the language of the territory they worked in. explains a lot about our imperial designs if nothing else it should be inspiration to those of us who want to ruin them 
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It's funny that the mods haven't banned me for my 'genocide denialism', cuz I'm a full denalist and I keep posting it. But maybe it's because it would be too on the nose since every time I deny this fake genocide I point out that the Nazis started with stripping citizenship and ethnic removal, too, and so what does that make liberals besides a bunch of loving brown shirts? Anyway holy God Jeffrey. The people you modded are too stupid to breath without the assistance of a metronome. Just demod them already and stop making more IKs from the goddamn chat threads.
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Mar 12, 2021 22:02
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Every cspam mod is a pedophile, according to my sources at the World Uyghur Congress
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Mar 12, 2021 22:08
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Algund Eenboom posted:Every cspam mod is a pedophile, according to my sources at the World Uyghur Congress careful I got my buttons taken away for saying that lol
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Mar 12, 2021 22:09
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which cspam mod is going to die in the chinese benghazi
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Mar 12, 2021 22:14
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Disputing the Uighur Genocide narrative is really ban-worthy now?
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Mar 12, 2021 22:18
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permaban worthy soon im sure
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Mar 12, 2021 22:21
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a Loving Dog posted:careful I got my buttons taken away for saying that lol drat, rip 
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Mar 12, 2021 22:24
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i was driving and npr was really ramping up the sinophobia note that my position is i dont know what the gently caress is going on in china, it would be bad if the claims or any subset of them are true, and that the past entire and very recent history of western imperialism has poisoned the well on information so thoroughly i cannot justify taking any of it at face value, but i suspect this position will be permabanworthy soon lmao
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Mar 12, 2021 22:28
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also anyone pontificating at length about china's crimes without having acknowledge the yemen genocide perpetrated by obama and biden in the past arent actually concerned about genocide and are concern trolling or deeply ignorant
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Mar 12, 2021 22:30
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it's simply too dangerous to allow people to uncritically repeat the propaganda of the genocidal, imperialist power whose internal apartheid and external warmongering threaten to consume the world entire. no, not THAT one-
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Mar 12, 2021 22:31
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It sucks rear end that this forum occasionally has good posting but they put the worst offenders in the world when it comes to being super uncritical in charge lol. And how does this forum have 45 mods and IKs and I've only ever seen like 4 post? Even if you're a mega thread dipshit who needs to gently caress off like smarxist you think they'd post somewhere I'd see it eventually, right? It's the worst mods since the GBS era where they had stars such as the mod who got horny sniffing women's hair on the bus and was probably a pedophile, the other ones that were pedophiles etc. So using my power of deductive reasoning I can only assume that the CSPAM mods are also pedophiles, since they are equally unsociable and too weird to live in a free society (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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Mar 12, 2021 22:36
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larry having an extremely normal one lmao
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Mar 12, 2021 22:39
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*an entire work floor vacates out from the Trump thread and punch their timecards while another just as quickly clock in and scurry inside*
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Mar 12, 2021 22:40
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Preemptive free larry
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Mar 12, 2021 22:40
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Dustcat posted:larry having an extremely normal one lmao I'm just really sick of these gringo morons trying to tell me what to think
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really queer Christmas posted:Preemptive free larry
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