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apropos to nothing posted:lol it’s kind of a testament to how far the socialist left in the us has fallen that the idea of having comrades and perspectives internationally can only be considered a joke. socialism being international isn’t just a slogan ya know? you wanna read their insights here’s their website https://chinaworker.info/en/ if you think they’re the cia or whatever else cool more power to you, but those are my comrades and have the privilege to speak to a few of them and it’s pretty exciting the new left that’s forming in China now despite the obstacles which are tremendous there. in any event, gently caress the mods of this and the other forums. the new left in china overwhelmingly supports xi. i don't think they'd post anything like this garbage  i agree that internationalism is important, which is why i'd be more interested in what the majority of chinese maoists think not cherry picked poo poo from people whose line neatly echoes state department garbage. i didn't have any bone in the ongoing arguments you have with ferrinus but i'm genuinely flabbergasted you posted that as representative of them and i'm going to be pretty skeptical of anything you post going forward. i think their main hangout is utopia (wyzxwk.com) if you're actually curious about what they think. mila kunis fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Mar 13, 2021 |
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THS posted:i love the mental image of some chud stealing the sacred electoral texts and all the wall street capitalists and military brass who have zero problem with biden being president being like “the constitution says.. nothing... nothing about what to do if the lacquer ballot box is stolen by a mob.... we have no choice but to crown Trump president for life..” it wasn't about stealing sacred electoral texts, it was about shooting nancy pelosi and aoc and a few dozen other democratic congresspeople through the head and the ensuing chaos enabling donald trump to declare his victory over voter fraud with 100% republican support
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Mar 13, 2021 01:42
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Dustcat posted:it wasn't about stealing sacred electoral texts, it was about shooting nancy pelosi and aoc and a few dozen other democratic congresspeople through the head and the ensuing chaos enabling donald trump to declare his victory over voter fraud with 100% republican support shut the gently caress up and get the gently caress out
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Mar 13, 2021 01:43
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Raskolnikov38 posted:no one here is interested in your takes or discussing things with you. you are infantile minded mindlessly regurgitating ideas spoonfed to you by GE's propaganda channel because rachael maddow makes you fuzzy inside pro tip re rachel maddow, if you're trying to psychoanalyze an opposing poster, just loving don't lol
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Mar 13, 2021 01:43
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[watching rioters leave any guns behind so they don't get in trouble with federal charges] "they're here to shoot people!!!"  lol
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Mar 13, 2021 01:45
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Dustcat posted:it wasn't about stealing sacred electoral texts, it was about shooting nancy pelosi and aoc and a few dozen other democratic congresspeople through the head and the ensuing chaos enabling donald trump to declare his victory over voter fraud with 100% republican support it was sort of both. on one hand they wanted to interrupt the electoral ratification process that would seal in biden's election. on the other hand they wanted to intimidate and maybe take vengeance on various left-wing or "left-wing" congressional figures
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Mar 13, 2021 01:47
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Fortaleza posted:[watching rioters leave any guns behind so they don't get in trouble with federal charges] "they're here to shoot people!!!" have we really gone full circle and the official leftist position is that trumpists taking over the capitol is just fine, the institutions can take it
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Mar 13, 2021 01:48
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You have an infantile mental disorder, and not the cool type lenin talked about
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Algund Eenboom posted:Posting in the communist thread about how horrible it would be if amerikan senators were murdered this was the better post before your edit and you should have let it stand what you replaced it with just kills all discussion
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Mar 13, 2021 01:50
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Dustcat posted:pro tip re rachel maddow, if you're trying to psychoanalyze an opposing poster, just loving don't lol i have psychoanalyzed you as Very Fuckin Stupid and a liberal. sorry that you were traumatized on liberal 9/11 and think that we were inches away from a successful coup ahahahahahaha
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THS posted:i have psychoanalyzed you as Very Fuckin Stupid and a liberal. sorry that you were traumatized on liberal 9/11 and think that we were inches away from a successful coup ahahahahahaha 
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Mar 13, 2021 01:52
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Dustcat posted:have we really gone full circle and the official leftist position is that trumpists taking over the capitol is just fine, the institutions can take it The Official Leftist Position (which I am the arbiter of, btw) is that they didn't take over poo poo and were protestors let into part of the building by cops and they wandered around a bit and one got shot for trying to go where they weren't supposed to. It wasn't "just fine" because I'm sure some people that aren't paid nearly enough had to actually clean all that poo poo up and that would've sucked.
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Dustcat posted:have we really gone full circle and the official leftist position is that trumpists taking over the capitol is just fine, the institutions can take it the official leftist position is that it was extremely funny
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Mar 13, 2021 01:53
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Dustcat posted:have we really gone full circle and the official leftist position is that trumpists taking over the capitol is just fine, the institutions can take it shut up bitch
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Fortaleza posted:The Official Leftist Position (which I am the arbiter of, btw) is that they didn't take over poo poo and were protestors let into part of the building by cops and they wandered around a bit and one got shot for trying to go where they weren't supposed to. see as a leftist i'd be kinda worried about cops letting them in to do all that, since they were far right racists and fascists bent on murder, but for whatever reason a lot of people on this thread are all "meh they were never gonna do anything" but i'm told i'm a liberal for holding this view
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Mar 13, 2021 01:55
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Dustcat posted:have we really gone full circle and the official leftist position is that trumpists taking over the capitol is just fine, the institutions can take it well, it augurs poorly for the left because it might signal a wave of incipient right-wing (non-state) terrorism, but the institutions manifestly CAN take it just fine
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Mar 13, 2021 01:55
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Done with this dumbass, someone throw it back in the river
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Mar 13, 2021 01:55
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muh institutions
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Mar 13, 2021 01:56
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also they literally did murder several people
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Cnidaria posted:the official leftist position is that it was extremely funny extremely this and anyone still  about it is libtarded. simple as that
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Mar 13, 2021 01:59
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how many different ways do we need to call you a loving idiot before you go and find another thread to do it
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apropos to nothing posted:im not embarrassed by either of those things because china is a capitalist power and stalin killed the greatest socialists and communists of his generation. except tito, despite his best efforts stalins favorite quote was "you miss every shot you don't take"
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Mar 13, 2021 02:02
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Dustcat posted:we narrowly avoided a fascist takeover through sheer luck on 1/6, and nobody in power seems too interested in preventing followup attempts first they poo poo on nancy pelosi's chair, and I said nothing...
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Mar 13, 2021 02:04
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Dustcat posted:this was the better post before your edit and you should have let it stand 
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not a single cop died from the riot except for suicides and a guy who it turns out was not killed with a fire extinguisher and died days later. the one rioter who got close to anyone important was immediately merked. the rioters were not prepared for the kind of serious armed confrontation it would have taken to shoot a bunch of senators and congress critters, and while the Discourse has certainly gone down hill, the general political establishment of the country is not yet at the point of rewarding a mass shooting in the capitol building with a Political Win and the license to declare Trump the president - to believe that requires a very warped view of the conditions and realistic outcomes at that moment, as well as the configurations of existing economic, political, and at the level of a coup attempt, military power. there is no alternate universe within 20 degrees of our own where what you are crying was a possibility actually happened even in an event where somehow the mob was actually organized into competent kill teams and they shot nancy to death, there was zero chance of the current political order lining up behind that. trump had not done any of the work required for a successful coup, being not particularly liked by the military brass, and having zero actual organization to secure centers of power, including state governments, tech corporations, media, and finance capital maybe if bernie sanders were at risk of becoming president, he would be viewed as a threat. but joe biden? none of the centers of power in the US were going to completely destabilize the country to prevent a moderate republican from being sworn in dustcat your belief on this is absurd and not really worth the words i just wrote to explain why
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Mar 13, 2021 02:07
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on second thought it should be: first they poo poo on nancy pelosi's chair, and I said lmao
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Dustcat posted:
If those facebook retards seized power they'd probably be less fascist than the current administration you drooling retard.
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Mar 13, 2021 02:08
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Protest cum Riot
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Mar 13, 2021 02:10
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THS posted:dustcat your belief on this is absurd and not really worth the words i just wrote to explain why the cops let them in and will let them in again the next time
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Mar 13, 2021 02:11
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Dustcat posted:your problem, and i'm addressing this thread more broadly than just you THS, is that you assume way the hell too much when you see a post and attempt to fit it into your available particularly shaped shaped box categories Dustcat posted:have we really gone full circle and the official leftist position is that trumpists taking over the capitol is just fine, the institutions can take it mila kunis posted:shut up bitch
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Literally how could it get more fascist than performing open genocide. We have a massive slave labor program, with the courts intentionally keeping it supplied with fresh labor. Anyone who wasn't born rich has no rights. What would it take for your stupid rear end to realize we already live in your worst case scenario. God I'm so sick of you rich white fucks moralizing at me. Things can only get worse for people like you. The rest of us laugh at you because we're already in the deep end, and your sobbing about how your going to drown while in a kiddie pool wearing floaties.
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Mar 13, 2021 02:12
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trump thread isnt sending their best folks. They're liberals, white noise posters, and some (I assume) are good people.
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THS posted:even in an event where somehow the mob was actually organized into competent kill teams and they shot nancy to death, there was zero chance of the current political order lining up behind that. trump had not done any of the work required for a successful coup, being not particularly liked by the military brass, and having zero actual organization to secure centers of power, including state governments, tech corporations, media, and finance capital yep, they could have hanged nancy and mike from a lamppost and the system would chug forward. lol at the idea of U.S. military just throwing up their hands for some dumb fuckers. People see right wing and mistakenly think that because they see themselves on the same side as the actual powers that be, that those powers also conversely think the same. mf'in british imperialist said it best, no eternal friendships only eternal interest. these morons are useful as a voting bloc, not a a beergut fascist battalion overthrowing the government lmfao
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Mar 13, 2021 02:14
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Dustcat posted:the cops let them in and will let them in again the next time you’re hysterical months after a riot lmao. some sympathetic cops not doing their job does not lead to turning the political order on its head after an unprecedented violent mass shooting at the capitol, and the actual powers that be sitting on their hands, watching the q shaman cast spells in the congressional chambers, and deciding to give them this one
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THS posted:you’re hysterical months after a riot lmao. some sympathetic cops not doing their job does not lead to turning the political order on its head after an unprecedented violent mass shooting at the capitol, and the actual powers that be sitting on their hands, watching the q shaman cast spells in the congressional chambers, and deciding to give them this one this wasn't going to be a turning of the political order on its head, it was going to be breaking more rules than usual to maintain republican kleptocratic power
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Mar 13, 2021 02:18
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Dustcat posted:this wasn't going to be a turning of the political order on its head, it was going to be breaking more rules than usual to maintain republican kleptocratic power so it wasnt a coup then
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Mar 13, 2021 02:19
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lollontee posted:so it wasnt a coup then i think the technical term is an autogolpe, you weird pedant
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Mar 13, 2021 02:19
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please murder my rear end oh god almighty and merciful
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Dustcat posted:this wasn't going to be a turning of the political order on its head, it was going to be breaking more rules than usual to maintain republican kleptocratic power Very well. What were the objectives. In what way would this power be maintained. What is the power you speak of, exactly?
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Dustcat posted:i think the technical term is an autogolpe, you weird pedant 1/6 was not the 18th brummaire of donald trump
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