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Yeah Nah 122 53.51%
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Centusin
Aug 5, 2009

freebooter posted:

Is there some editorialising in that article doubting the victim that you haven't posted? I've only kept half an eye on Twitter today but a lot of people seem furious at the Australian. Unless that's just for publishing her private account in the first place?

People are extra furious because PVO is Porter's friend and more than happy to join in with publishing selected extracts from the private diary in an attempt to sway public opinion.

The piece ends with this, so it's clearly trying to use those diary entries to suggest that Kate invented the story

quote:

The question readers might now want to ask themselves is does Kate’s dossier raise doubts about what has been ­alleged against Porter?

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Karandras
Apr 27, 2006

Konomex posted:

Nah, you know what would be funnier? If the Greens became the official opposition. Blow that hosed up 'Greens aren't a real party' poo poo out of the water. I don't have any reason to think it would happen, but drat would it be delicious.

This is functionally impossible due to the way lower house seats are calculated but it’s very possible the Nationals will have more seats than the Libs.

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!

Karandras posted:

Jordie is a fuckhead with Van Badham tier brain poisoning when it comes to party loyalty

joride had his team invade the young greens minecraft server, set up flaming swastikas, and spam the chat with "n****r".

if he's not fash with a red coat i'll be surprised.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

bell jar posted:

Yeah, I only posted the relevant bits. There's a whole bunch of disgusting opinion beforehand that I didn't feel was worth sharing.

Probably the right call

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


thatbastardken posted:


if he's not fash with a red coat i'll be surprised.

maybe a real dumb q but what's the red coat reference to?

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

bell jar posted:

Yeah, I only posted the relevant bits. There's a whole bunch of disgusting opinion beforehand that I didn't feel was worth sharing.

Right, because I saw this which suggested PVO or whoever wrote it was implying it was staged:

https://twitter.com/mike_salter/status/1370547867387977733

SHALASHASKA HAWKE
Nov 10, 2016

No child soldier in poverty by 1990

thatbastardken posted:

joride had his team invade the young greens minecraft server, set up flaming swastikas, and spam the chat with "n****r".

if he's not fash with a red coat i'll be surprised.

it was probably the auspol discord, people are always talking about committing crimes in minecraft

meteor9
Nov 23, 2007

"That's why I put up with it."
Boy what an awkward day to get citizenship! I'm just grateful Dutton's name isn't on the certificate. Or that I can read whose name it even is.

Spookydonut
Sep 13, 2010

"Hello alien thoughtbeasts! We murder children!"
~our children?~
"Not recently, no!"
~we cool bro~
"Polling shows Opposition Leader Zak Kirkup could lose his seat"

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

meteor9 posted:

Boy what an awkward day to get citizenship! I'm just grateful Dutton's name isn't on the certificate. Or that I can read whose name it even is.

Congrats :australia:

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!

alf_pogs posted:

maybe a real dumb q but what's the red coat reference to?

red-brown alliance, or fascism wearing a coat of socialism.

bandaid.friend
Apr 25, 2017

:obama:My first car was a stick:obama:

thatbastardken posted:

joride had his team invade the young greens minecraft server, set up flaming swastikas, and spam the chat with "n****r".

if he's not fash with a red coat i'll be surprised.

Is this something his lot were directly involved in or is it one of those 'well i signaled them to do it and who could possibly have predicted this' sort of thing

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!

bandaid.friend posted:

Is this something his lot were directly involved in or is it one of those 'well i signaled them to do it and who could possibly have predicted this' sort of thing

directly afaik, although my evidence has come only in the form of third hand discord screenshots so take that as you will.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

froglet posted:

Happy state election day, Wait Awhilians!

I've done my civic duty and voted, grabbed lunch from the democracy sausage sizzle and followed that up with a democracy cake.

Due to health stuff, this is the first time in ~8 years I've not signed up to be spruiking the Greens at a booth for an election. It's hard not to feel like I've let the team down, but I did visit a friend on a booth and hand out how to votes while he went around and hung up signs in Wembley, and I also participated in some some doorknocking/campaigning in the lead up to today. Those things are important, even if my brain spiders took over at the pointy end of the campaign.

If you're against the two major parties slide to the right and want action on climate change, you should consider joining, volunteering or donating. The Greens don't take corporate donations, and they need all the help they can get.

Doing stuff for the Greens is work, but most of the time it's not particularly arduous, and it's worth doing. It's likely to be a Labor landslide today, but putting yourself out there is important.

You did amazing this election, froglet. Even after you had to step back from volunteering, you still did a few phone banks and brought friends along to help, which was more than we could have ever asked from you. You were an essential core part of the team and we could not have done what we did without you!

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

thatbastardken posted:

joride had his team invade the young greens minecraft server, set up flaming swastikas, and spam the chat with "n****r".

if he's not fash with a red coat i'll be surprised.

I mean, I bet he attracts a certain kind of dumbass audience who would do that poo poo even if he didn't condone it.

Spookydonut
Sep 13, 2010

"Hello alien thoughtbeasts! We murder children!"
~our children?~
"Not recently, no!"
~we cool bro~

GoldStandardConure posted:

You did amazing this election, froglet. Even after you had to step back from volunteering, you still did a few phone banks and brought friends along to help, which was more than we could have ever asked from you. You were an essential core part of the team and we could not have done what we did without you!

Can confirm that froglet is rad.

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
Danslide 2.0

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Fkn lol, Green just called the election.

Pwnstar
Dec 9, 2007

Who wants some waffles?

Me about to vote every time: Time to put the Libs last on the docket. *checks ballot paper* The WHAT party?

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Yeah bit confused by WA having a pro waxing party.

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Pwnstar posted:

Me about to vote every time: Time to put the Libs last on the docket. *checks ballot paper* The WHAT party?

Yeah you know something is hosed up if the greens put the libs 3rd

bee
Dec 17, 2008


Do you often sing or whistle just for fun?
Can someone explain to me (an eastern state bubble idiot) what's happening in WA with the vote? Why are the libs losing so hard? It brings me enormous glee but I'd like to wrap my head around how it's happening?

Spookydonut
Sep 13, 2010

"Hello alien thoughtbeasts! We murder children!"
~our children?~
"Not recently, no!"
~we cool bro~

NPR Journalizard posted:

Fkn lol, Green just called the election.

Antony Green says Labor has won the election

"We can safely say the McGowan government has been returned to office," he said at 6:43pm.

Just 0.7 per cent of the vote has been counted.

Could this be a record early call by Antony?

Spookydonut
Sep 13, 2010

"Hello alien thoughtbeasts! We murder children!"
~our children?~
"Not recently, no!"
~we cool bro~

bee posted:

Can someone explain to me (an eastern state bubble idiot) what's happening in WA with the vote? Why are the libs losing so hard? It brings me enormous glee but I'd like to wrap my head around how it's happening?

WA libs ruined all credibility with the barnett government. They lose the last election by a lot, in opposition they have done nothing (especially with the almost constant reveal of liberal graft/corruption in previous governments that trashed the budget).

They had no strong leadership in opposition, lisa harvey was picked after the last election (previously the wa police minister) despite being barely known and widely hated. She resigned like months before the election and they picked Zak as the new leader, he's young and politically naive.

Mark Mcgowan's response to the pandemic has widely been seen as nothing short of heroic (especially in the face of the federal government doing nothing), his popularity is something insane like 80% approval. All the polling has shown this would be a landslide victory not helped by Zak conceding the election weeks ago, the liberal's campaign has been "don't let labor have complete control of parliament" with little to no other content.



edit: lisa harvey also looking very likely to have lost her seat.

Spookydonut fucked around with this message at 12:54 on Mar 13, 2021

Spookydonut
Sep 13, 2010

"Hello alien thoughtbeasts! We murder children!"
~our children?~
"Not recently, no!"
~we cool bro~
Here is the new WA opposition:

Nats:
Mia Davies (Current nats leader, safe seat)
Shane Love
Vince Catania
Peter Rundle
Terry Redman*

Libs:
David Honey
Libby Mettam

*still in doubt but may retain.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

I'm from Victoria and as such get little to no news of you out there in the filthy secession-happy West. (And what news we do get we don't give half a gently caress about.)

So I'm sorry if this is a stupid question.

Sure the Libs are electorally dead, and the reasons why they are so have been explained. But what of the Nationals? Surely WA has enough rural electorates filled with dumbarse hicks prepared to vote for anyone in an akubra talking poo poo about "immigrants and inner city leftys". Why aren't they as big a force?

Spookydonut
Sep 13, 2010

"Hello alien thoughtbeasts! We murder children!"
~our children?~
"Not recently, no!"
~we cool bro~

BrigadierSensible posted:

I'm from Victoria and as such get little to no news of you out there in the filthy secession-happy West. (And what news we do get we don't give half a gently caress about.)

So I'm sorry if this is a stupid question.

Sure the Libs are electorally dead, and the reasons why they are so have been explained. But what of the Nationals? Surely WA has enough rural electorates filled with dumbarse hicks prepared to vote for anyone in an akubra talking poo poo about "immigrants and inner city leftys". Why aren't they as big a force?

78% of the population of the state is in perth, country seats used to be only half the number of votes as urban seats until 2005/2008.



For many years, Western Australia used a zonal electoral system for both houses of parliament. In most Australian jurisdictions, each state electorate represents an approximately equal number of voters. However, in Western Australia, until 2008 an MP represented 28,519 voters in greater Perth (the Metropolitan Region Scheme area) or 14,551 country voters.[1] At the 2006 census taken on 8 August 2006, 73.76% of Western Australia's residents lived in and around Perth,[2] but only 34 of Western Australia's 57 Legislative Assembly seats, representing 60% of the total, were located in the metropolitan region. There has been strong support over time in some quarters for the principle of one vote, one value, particularly from the Labor Party who were at particular disadvantage under the system. Up until 2005, reform had proceeded gradually—the most dramatic changes had occurred with the enactment of the Electoral Districts Act 1947 and the Acts Amendment (Electoral Reform) Act 1987, the latter of which raised the number of metropolitan seats from 29 to 34.[3]

Effective on 20 May 2005, the Electoral Amendment and Repeal Act 2005 (No.1 of 2005) abolished the country-metropolitan distinction for the Legislative Assembly, but all seats then in place remained until the following election on 6 September 2008. A redistribution of seats announced by the Western Australian Electoral Commission on 29 October 2007 places 42 seats in Perth and 17 in the country, with a variation of ±10% from the average population normally permitted. The only distinction for rural seats is that any seat with an area of 100,000 square kilometres (38,610 sq mi) or greater (that is, 4% of the State's land area) may have a variation of +10%–20% from the average, using an adjusted population based on the seat's area in square kilometres.[4]

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Spookydonut fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Mar 13, 2021

The Dark Project
Jun 25, 2007

Give it to me straight...
Peter Katsambanis, my local member, looks to have been turfed out. You have no idea just how strong this swing is for that to happen. He's been dug in like a tick for a long time. Was funny to see the younger lib staffers handing out HTV's. I was so tempted to say "Early night for you tonight I'm guessing?"

Also, asked for a postal vote, because of my health problems, and only got it yesterday. Just easier to go to the poll and hand it in there than dick around trying to find someone to sign the declaration for me around my place. Did it at the voting place. It was cleared out by 2:30pm.

Holy poo poo, the new map... Nats going to be bigger than the Libs. Just one Lib seat in all of Perth thus far. HAHAHAHAHAH YES!

Pleasant Friend
Dec 30, 2008

Does anybody know the breakdown of female representation in the new parliament?

Spookydonut
Sep 13, 2010

"Hello alien thoughtbeasts! We murder children!"
~our children?~
"Not recently, no!"
~we cool bro~
Also this is what regional WA looks like:



Green is Nats.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

a whiteman who has some authority over others, who not only hasn't raped anyone, or stared at them creepily...
Well this has been a wonderful, and boring, election night. Opposition leader is admitting defeat, again. I couldn't help but notice that his function looked like a retirement village. Only one person without one grey hair in the background, and it looked like a dye job. Their problem isn't just their policies, or lack thereof, their base has been dying for the past 4 years.

Will be interesting what WA does the next Federal election, especially with so few paid staff Liberals to help out.

Spookydonut
Sep 13, 2010

"Hello alien thoughtbeasts! We murder children!"
~our children?~
"Not recently, no!"
~we cool bro~

Konomex posted:

Well this has been a wonderful, and boring, election night. Opposition leader is admitting defeat, again. I couldn't help but notice that his function looked like a retirement village. Only one person without one grey hair in the background, and it looked like a dye job. Their problem isn't just their policies, or lack thereof, their base has been dying for the past 4 years.

Will be interesting what WA does the next Federal election, especially with so few paid staff Liberals to help out.

Zak: "He said he was standing down from politics "to make way for the new generation" and would not continue to seek political office."

He's 30 something.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

a whiteman who has some authority over others, who not only hasn't raped anyone, or stared at them creepily...

Spookydonut posted:

Zak: "He said he was standing down from politics "to make way for the new generation" and would not continue to seek political office."

He's 30 something.

An insane statement for him to make as he has done nothing else with his life, and has had the goal of becoming PM since he was a child. He's lived and breathed this stuff for 33/4 years. What else is he going to do? How does a 30-something stand down to make way for the next generation when most of the party is still made up of the crypt-keeper?

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

The child's mic not working for the beginning of his concession speech was the delicious icing on the cake, you can't write that poo poo

bee posted:

Can someone explain to me (an eastern state bubble idiot) what's happening in WA with the vote? Why are the libs losing so hard? It brings me enormous glee but I'd like to wrap my head around how it's happening?

I haven't lived there in ten years but judging from what my family and friends say, even though the Libs weren't polling well pre-COVID, you basically can't compete against McGowan's pandemic response. WA is not just a geographically but a mentally isolated place, even though it's now prosperous enough that pretty much everyone has travelled interstate and overseas, so people were 100% primed to think "yeah, gently caress, pull the drawbridge up, we don't want that poo poo." And yeah, people have family overseas and interstate, but I'm one of those people and my attitude is "good on McGowan for keeping my family safe even if it means I can't see them this year." They locked down early and didn't even have to shut down the pubs and restaurants like the rest of us did in March and April. I think if the shoe had been on the other foot and a Liberal leader had been in charge and enacted the same policies, we'd be seeing the same landslide in their direction.

Basically it has nothing to do with broader policies and 100% to do with the fact that WA lived life with a freedom that even Taiwan and New Zealand can't boast. Happy to be corrected by WAers if I'm wrong, but that's the impression I get from everyone back home.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Konomex posted:

has had the goal of becoming PM since he was a child.

quote:

What else is he going to do?

Run for a federal seat, obviously. He's probably feeling pretty pleased tonight.

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

freebooter posted:

Basically it has nothing to do with broader policies and 100% to do with the fact that WA lived life with a freedom that even Taiwan and New Zealand can't boast. Happy to be corrected by WAers if I'm wrong, but that's the impression I get from everyone back home.

It helps that the fiscal fuckwits are silenced by the whole surplus thing as well

Halloween Liker
Oct 31, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
Zaks off to a cushy job for him being used as a fall guy.

Everyone I know who met the kid thought it was a joke he was running at all. Just not up to it.

Halloween Liker fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Mar 13, 2021

Halloween Liker
Oct 31, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

freebooter posted:

The child's mic not working for the beginning of his concession speech was the delicious icing on the cake, you can't write that poo poo


I haven't lived there in ten years but judging from what my family and friends say, even though the Libs weren't polling well pre-COVID, you basically can't compete against McGowan's pandemic response. WA is not just a geographically but a mentally isolated place, even though it's now prosperous enough that pretty much everyone has travelled interstate and overseas, so people were 100% primed to think "yeah, gently caress, pull the drawbridge up, we don't want that poo poo." And yeah, people have family overseas and interstate, but I'm one of those people and my attitude is "good on McGowan for keeping my family safe even if it means I can't see them this year." They locked down early and didn't even have to shut down the pubs and restaurants like the rest of us did in March and April. I think if the shoe had been on the other foot and a Liberal leader had been in charge and enacted the same policies, we'd be seeing the same landslide in their direction.

Basically it has nothing to do with broader policies and 100% to do with the fact that WA lived life with a freedom that even Taiwan and New Zealand can't boast. Happy to be corrected by WAers if I'm wrong, but that's the impression I get from everyone back home.


We barely felt any of the COVID poo poo unlike eastern states.

We've been as normal almost all of the time. We only had mandatory masks for a single week last month.

And we all saw and aknowleged the attacks from the Liberals and their mate Palmer to change that. This was a big thing.

Broader policies? I'm not sure anyone cared. We generally kept working, getting paid, going out and having lives. Emotion and normalcy trumped policy.

Halloween Liker fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Mar 13, 2021

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Oh and I forgot that Liza Harvey announced, unilaterally, to her party room, that she wanted to go against the hugely popular closed border, which apparently left them aghast. Lol.

Also while I've been sitting here the ABC has had four seats "in doubt" and three of them have now ticked over to Labor. Nationals will now have more seats than the Libs - and the WA Nats are separate from the federal Nats, and have not formed a coalition with the WA Liberals for a few cycles now. So the Libs won't just be a junior coalition partner, they'll be an actual minor party.

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Slugnoid
Jun 23, 2006

Nap Ghost
Labor winning WA with a bigger margin than Lukashenko "won" Belarus last year lmao

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