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Guavanaut posted:Are you keeping them as sash? You can get some nice double glazed sash windows now. Yeah we don't get a choice, and they better be nice for 12 loving grand.
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stev posted:Wish I'd known this before my last move! Cardboard boxes are the devil's spawn and we were constantly terrified the bottom was going to come out of them even if they were only half full. You have to choose your cardboard box. Supermarket cardboard boxes are no good. I got friendly with a bloke in supplies in my hospital- expensive fragile goods get moved in good boxes.
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Mebh posted:I do wonder how well his chosen response actually works in that you engage with them with curiosity and get them to justify it. Sure that'll annoy trolls, but most of the people round here (S. Yorkshire) who pick up the BS right wing talking points aren't that. Yeah that only works if they somehow 1. know the actual truth and 2. wouldn't lie anyway. People like that will just make stuff up to support their argument.
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CoolCab posted:https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1370846515032375300?s=20 I've been conditioned by newspaper headlines to interpret this as meaning Sarah Everard is saying the vigil was unsafe
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Mar 13, 2021 22:52
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Well she's probably a good authority on the danger of police.
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Mar 13, 2021 22:57
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Tesseraction posted:Well she's probably a good authority on the danger of police. Do we think the Met didn’t realise how bad the optics of this would be due to incompetence, or don’t care about their optics because, well, it’s the Met.
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Mar 13, 2021 23:04
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Is it incompetence, or are they out to remind us who's boss?
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Mar 13, 2021 23:08
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Aramoro posted:We have nothing but single glazed sash windows but luckily being thoroughly middle class the Scottish Government is giving us a massive loan to pay for us to have them all made into double glazing. I'm in England, but I ought to find out if I can get something to do mine. I have 6 2mx90cm (i think - they're loving massive) single glazed sash windows in wooden frames. ETA: Apparently yes, windows are secondary work, and you need primary work done too to get the grant for the windows, and the scheme closes (I presume at the end of March.) Angrymog fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Mar 13, 2021 |
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willie_dee posted:don’t care about their optics because, well, it’s the Met. It isn't just the police, every right-wing organization has realised that you can just flat ignore "bad looking" actives and no one will hold a fire to your feet.
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Aramoro posted:Yeah we don't get a choice, and they better be nice for 12 loving grand.  I was hoping to get the back done with sash windows for like maybe a tenth of that. Wachter posted:Is it incompetence, or are they out to remind us who's boss?
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IllusionistTrixie posted:It isn't just the police, every right-wing organization has realised that you can just flat ignore "bad looking" actives and no one will hold a fire to your feet. yeah i think we've got a sorta power crisis of some kind going down so now the media, royals, cops, politicians etc are all trying to assert themselves and see what they can and cant get away with and to whommmm
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Mar 13, 2021 23:15
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I often think of the 'We live in a cop regime' line from Disco Elysium. It just perfectly nails the feeling of living through stuff like this in a way that, even while being very aware of police brutality and misconduct and stuff like 'we're the biggest gang' beforehand, I hadn't quite conceptualised before seeing those words put together.
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Mar 13, 2021 23:19
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Some people who weren't white men did something the police told then not to do as far as they are concerned that is carte blanche to crack some skulls.
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Mar 13, 2021 23:27
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They might have been going for a "we're the biggest gang" thing but that doesn't play well against middle-class white women, even the Mail is screaming about this. Who can fire Cressida Dick? Can Sadiq or would it have to be Priti Patel? I'll be surprised if she makes it past Wednesday.
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Looks like we have the official line from the poo poo party; https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1370850554176487428 https://twitter.com/NickTorfaen/status/1370847606742642688 We've all learned an important lesson about how the police shouldn't be assaulting women, I personally wasn't sure but hopefully we can learn this lesson for the future maybe, anyway lets check what these fuckers had to say last week while they were eagerly voting to enable precisely this poo poo; Nick Thomas-Symonds MP, Labour’s Shadow Home Secretary posted:“The measures in this Bill will be cold comfort to officers who are have been offered a pay freeze in response for their remarkable bravery in this pandemic. While Labour has been calling for a number of these changes, they will not go far enough to tackle violence against officers, which saw attacks on officers rise 50 per cent over the past five years.” so brave
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I'm absolutely shaking with rage tonight. My partner went (I couldn't due to geography so went to a local vigil which, while fine, still had police hassling you to leave as soon as you'd lain flowers or whatever - like gently caress off, paying respects and remembering isn't just laying some flowers) and got pretty roughed up and I've not been this angry in a long time. How dare they? One of their own KILLED A WOMAN BECAUSE THEY COVERED UP HIS PREVIOUS SEXUAL ASSAULT and they react by kicking gently caress out of women trying to grieve???? I'm not surprised, I've seen the met take a peaceful protest and turn it into a loving brawl plenty of times, but this is just a step beyond. This wasn't activists, this was people who may never have even been at anything like this before, people who just wanted to pay their respects, subjected to police violence totally unprepared. I can't imagine how traumatic that is for a woman who isn't expecting it and has never felt threatened by the police before. I'm just so angry for them all. gently caress this country and gently caress the Met. Utterly depraved, evil thugs. They had the loving TSG turn up. The TSG are the territorial support group, a famously violent squad of riot cops. I've been in a copshop when they all left before and saw their insignia, which they hide very well apart from the t-shirts they wear under their armour - I'm not kidding, it's a skull with crossed batons behind it. loving animals. Solidarity to all women and all people affected by gender-based violence, and all people affected by police violence.
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learnincurve posted:Violently shoving a tiny lady who is trying to pick up her glasses because why? Because those officers felt scared in the moment and they could. It looks a lot like Police are a protected class right now, they don't even make a pretence at community policing and a woman is dead because apparently being Police is so loving special that basic morality or even basic law doesn''t apply.
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There’s a guy I went to school with who is a raving Tory, in the army, full on right-wing propaganda spouting guy. Even he is tweeting that the Met have hosed this up and something needs to happen.
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Guavanaut posted:
Being bleeding heart liberals were getting our existing sash windows refurbished as it reuses the cases but it does restrict who can do it. Getting 7 windows, a door that's been made into a window and our front door replaced. Luckily we're getting an interest free loan from.the Scottish government to pay for half of it. Hoping the 16mm double glazing units will really help our heat efficiency.
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Mar 14, 2021 00:07
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Even Lawrence Fox is against the police lol
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I like that lammy has accurately suggested that he doesn't like the imagery, not that he objects to it happening.
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'lessons must be learned' is absolutely the single most useless platitude in the world
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kecske posted:'lessons must be learned' is absolutely the single most useless platitude in the world it means same outcome but it looks better
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me- i dont think its right to get angry about this without thinking about it and the police aren't a gang and have a job to do and we should all be sensible. The police - go completely crazy over the top and act exactly like a gang and etc me- ahh
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kecske posted:'lessons must be learned' is absolutely the single most useless platitude in the world I'll see your lessons must be learned and I'll raise you thoughts and prayers
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kecske posted:'lessons must be learned' is absolutely the single most useless platitude in the world 'Lessons must be learned' is what you say to deflect from the lack of actual consequences. E: Speaking of Sir MI5: https://twitter.com/BeckettUnite/status/1370864056035332096
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Honestly what seems interesting to me is that under Corbyn Lammy would go off on one about racism and I genuinely wonder if he's got some wanker signing off on his tweets under Sir Keith.
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TheRat posted:'Lessons must be learned' is what you say to deflect from the lack of actual consequences. Wtf how the hell do you make traveling illegal 
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Convex posted:Wtf how the hell do you make traveling illegal well the euro step took a long time to reach widespread acceptance in north american ball, so
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Tesseraction posted:Honestly what seems interesting to me is that under Corbyn Lammy would go off on one about racism and I genuinely wonder if he's got some wanker signing off on his tweets under Sir Keith. The world is full of people who will say anything for their own benefit.
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TBF Lammy knew Grenfell victims personally so that lit a fire under his arse. I do think a party reflects its leaders which is why under Corbyn many MPs tweeted And some just continued to post like absolute poo poo (see jessflips).
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OwlFancier posted:The world is full of people who will say anything for their own benefit. your posts suggest not exclusively so lol
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TheRat posted:E: Speaking of Sir MI5: Really starting to feel the ol' despair seeping in right now. I'm just sat here wondering how much worse things are going to get on all fronts with the frowning consent of all sides of parliament.
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The silver lining to this depravity is that the true nature of the police and the TSG in particular has been very clearly exposed in a context where there is no plausible other side to be told.
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“Well the middle aged white woman shouldn’t have been politely asking to get her glasses after the policeman slapped them off her face for laying down flowers” is a hard sell even for the daily express
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The police have really done it now, manhandling a group of white women. Maybe they'll finally be some consequences for police violence.
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learnincurve posted:“Well the middle aged white woman shouldn’t have been politely asking to get her glasses after the policeman slapped them off her face for laying down flowers” is a hard sell even for the daily express Sure, and then what? Some headlines going "Well this sucks!" The internal police complaints commission will investigate themselves, find no wrong doing and move on. Has anyone been arrested for Grenfell? Or even any kind of consequence? It's an institutional power difference where they in power feel so safe they don't even need to throw the odd scape goat to the wolves.
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