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wilderthanmild posted:This reminds me of one particularly bad piece of advice I keep seeing/hearing. "Don't take Tylenol or any other medicine for your fever if you get one from the vaccine. You need to let your immune system do its work and get ready!" what the gently caress
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We need to find all these “my grandson/my nephew”s and keep them as far away from the olds as possible, preferably in cages next to the volcano we just yeeted their phones into I run what used to be a charity silver surfer group, which started 10 years ago and when the official group ended I just sort of carried it on as a cafe and cake club. I somehow managed to wrangle all of them into staying covid free until they all got jabbed, but it was an absolute battle against numerous opinionated dipshit younger male relations, who I will always slightly suspect were feeding some of them bad information for the inheritance money.
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Mar 16, 2021 13:46
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People are really dumb about how the human body works. This is why we have a billion dollar industry built around the idea of removing "toxins" from your body by putting tape on your feet or drinking some magical tea.
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Mar 16, 2021 13:48
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do we know how long it takes from Janssen jab receipt to when you're considered 'fully' inoculated? I know Pfizer is like, what, two weeks after second jab?
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Mar 16, 2021 14:32
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zgrowler2 posted:do we know how long it takes from Janssen jab receipt to when you're considered 'fully' inoculated? I know Pfizer is like, what, two weeks after second jab? Officially, two weeks. In reality, see the attached graphs. Maybe eight weeks. Platystemon posted:Right now, there’s the suggestion that a person is “fully vaccinated” two weeks after the Janssen vaccine when we know protection continues to climb for weeks after that. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Mar 16, 2021 |
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Mar 16, 2021 15:06
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Jeza posted:This is a really minor thing, but I see a lot of people/media having the wrong takeaway from medical advice that is designed to allay worry i.e. "If you have a strong reaction, that's actually good because it means your immune system is working!" I'll toss my anecdotal experience in. I had and recovered from COVID and under direction from my doctor got my shots when available and didn't really experience any reaction other than a stiff arm both times. I was really expecting the worse at the time too so it was a 'pleasant' surprise.
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Mar 16, 2021 15:37
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Ohio is opening up Vaccines to all Ohioans over 16 on the 29th. For some reason they are also squeezing those 40 and up in on the 19th.
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wilderthanmild posted:Ohio is opening up Vaccines to all Ohioans over 16 on the 29th. For some reason they are also squeezing those 40 and up in on the 19th. can out of staters  it?
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Platystemon posted:Officially, two weeks. In reality, see the attached graphs. Maybe eight weeks. well, uh, poo poo. I guess the Janssen vaccine taking up to eight weeks to hit an efficacy target of 65% isn't great, if that's indeed how it works. Still better than nothing
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Mar 16, 2021 16:20
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Alan Smithee posted:can out of staters Maybe? I think it was specifically stated to be Ohioans, but that might depend on how much they enforce it. Random pharmacists probably don't care about being the vaccine police, but checking ID's isn't nearly as hard as verifying medical conditions or employment in specific jobs. Edit: For what it's worth, the pharmacist and grocery store ones are the most likely for someone to get through like that I'd think, but the appointments are very hard to come by apparently. These new waves seemed to be timed to the opening of the new mass vaccination clinics in Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati. wilderthanmild fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Mar 16, 2021 |
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Mar 16, 2021 16:30
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wilderthanmild posted:This reminds me of one particularly bad piece of advice I keep seeing/hearing. "Don't take Tylenol or any other medicine for your fever if you get one from the vaccine. You need to let your immune system do its work and get ready!" People must think the fever is the brain killing off bad things like a little oven In that case you really ought to hold it at 150F for about 20 minutes
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Mar 16, 2021 16:31
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It’s because of this. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/should-you-take-pain-relievers-after-covid-19-vaccine quote:
So it’s not 100% wrong 
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Mar 16, 2021 16:35
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There was some question early on but at this point the direction is to take a Tylenol or whatever if you need to.
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Mar 16, 2021 16:38
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If there's one thing this last year has taught us, it's that you should actually look at the available info and studies yourself because the CDC is actually super untrustworthy! (she should drink water though obv)
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Alan Smithee posted:can out of staters Usually you have to have some form of state ID or like a power bill. Something to show even partial residency
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Mar 16, 2021 16:49
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I just took codeine and tripped balls till the fever went away with both covid and the vaccination tbh.
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Mar 16, 2021 16:57
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Do you think anyone ever got high.. while on corona vaccine?!? 
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Mar 16, 2021 17:02
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Fun fact: In the U.K. they have found that the statistics show that you are way less likely to be hospitalised with covid if you smoke/toke/vape and it’s because of two reasons, firstly the smell keeps strangers on the street 2m away, and secondly there is a visual aid showing how far your breath can travel when you exhale smoke/vape so people go “gwah!” and step back My Nan 94, is super pissed that she gave up smoking 40 years ago now, and even more pissed that the nursing home staff won’t buy her cigarettes.
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Platystemon posted:What proof, if any, is Hawai‘i requiring? If you qualify occupationally then you have to register through your employer. If you qualify via the specified medical conditions then you probably need to roll up with supplemental oxygen or looking near-death sick.
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Colonel Cancer posted:Do you think anyone ever got high.. while on corona vaccine?!?
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butt dickus posted:this potentially lowers your immune response as well, so you're not supposed to. i had my first dose yesterday and have been abstaining Wait, how does that square with the medicinal advice that the right frequency for weed usage is "every day"??
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MarcusSA posted:So it’s not 100% wrong It’s one hundred percent wrong in at least one respect. The fever isn’t doing anything for a person after vaccination. If we could turn it off at will, we would. It’s just that breaking the fever in practice involves certain drugs that we think might have some negative effect on immunity. The official recommendation is not to take OTC pain medication before vaccination, but they may be taken afterwards if necessary to manage symptoms. Don’t down them because “I might possibly feel the tiniest bit unwell and it can’t hurt, right?”. Do take them if you have a serious business fever.
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learnincurve posted:Fun fact: In the U.K. they have found that the statistics show that you are way less likely to be hospitalised with covid if you smoke/toke/vape and it’s because of two reasons, firstly the smell keeps strangers on the street 2m away, and secondly there is a visual aid showing how far your breath can travel when you exhale smoke/vape so people go “gwah!” and step back There was some early science behind nicotine suppressing the ACE2 response in the lungs or some poo poo too which was acting as a counter balance to the cytokine storms but i'm too lazy to go look for it right now
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vyst posted:There was some early science behind nicotine suppressing the ACE2 response in the lungs or some poo poo too which was acting as a counter balance to the cytokine storms but i'm too lazy to go look for it right now Yup France for sure was doing studies on nicotines effects re covid And then it sunk like a stone. I can't find ANYTHING about results despite googling. I think it was genuinely suppressed because smoking is so bad for you overall
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Got my first jab (Pfizer). It was...weird. I was all braced for the Tetanus type experience but I barely felt the needle at all. Maybe the slightest of pricks. I don't really feel that different yet other than a sudden urge to buy Office 365. I'm wondering how long if at all it will be before I feel effects from this. A lot of people say they don't feel much from the first but do from the second. My second shot will be in 4 weeks.
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First Pfizer got! Feels loving good, man.
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explosivo posted:First Pfizer got! Feels loving good, man. Sup buddy. We should be getting our second jab around the same time 
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First Pfizer shot was yesterday for me, and it knocked me on my rear end more than I expected. Follow up is in three weeks for me, which I thought was standard.
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bollig posted:It is hard to overstate how dogshit Switzerland's endgame has been. We've vaccinated some doctors and nurses and sort of 'front line adjacent' people. And they've just now cleared it for 70 and up (from 85). As far as I can understand it, this is group A. Group priority is alphabetical, so group B, people with chronic diseases, are up next! To put this in scale, I am basically a 35 y/o male w/o chronic conditions and I am in group N. I am almost certainly going to have to head to the States in June and I may just take the opportunity to get vaccinated while I'm there, at least the first dose of something. This is something I thought of on my own and then my wife's doctor mentioned it independantly, that it's something I should think about. Apparently we've ordered like 30 million doses, but we're all sitting here with our thumbs up our asses while cases are steadily rising once again. No, sorry I take that back. They are now starting a rigorous testing regime. Every person per household is now entitled to 5 free PCR tests per month! Not sure when we're getting them though. There is also an astonishing amount of anti-vaccination sentiment in this country, although it seems to be on par with the US as far as I can tell. But the last I saw, 41% of the population said they be "willing to be vaccinated immediately". All this having been said, they've stated emphatically and repeatedly that 'everyone who wants to can get vaccinated by the summer' which has always felt like a deliberately vague statement. "Be prepared for a third wave!" gently caress you. what's up group Never buddy? there's a handy calculator that will tell you when you can get your shots here! https://www.omnicalculator.com/health/impfterminrechner-schweiz#reihenfolge-der-impfungen it says my second shot should arrive in june or july. then we ran my wife's numbers, she's in group E and the date they gave was next week so lmao fml nobody has any idea and I'm gonna be stuck here for another summer without seeing my family back home
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UK are doing them 11 weeks apart now, we are so far ahead of everyone else now that we got solid figures showing the effectiveness increases massively from 3 -12 weeks turning the second jab into a booster.
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Castaign posted:First Pfizer shot was yesterday for me, and it knocked me on my rear end more than I expected. Follow up is in three weeks for me, which I thought was standard. Mine is 4 weeks. I thought 3 was supposed to be standard but I guess there's a window of 6 weeks or something?
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The current working here is 11 weeks apart, and then by this winter they will develop a yearly booster that takes into account all the current variants and either combine it with the flu jab or do them both at the same time - all our elderly, vulnerable and care workers get the flu jab so as usual the idea is to guess and hope like hell this works.
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Ginette Reno posted:Mine is 4 weeks. I thought 3 was supposed to be standard but I guess there's a window of 6 weeks or something? Pfizer, 3 weeks here. I guess the window is right
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learnincurve posted:The current working here is 11 weeks apart, and then by this winter they will develop a yearly booster that takes into account all the current variants and either combine it with the flu jab or do them both at the same time - all our elderly, vulnerable and care workers get the flu jab so as usual the idea is to guess and hope like hell this works. Flu vaccine is being released here next week and the phase 1b covid vaccine rollout also starts next week. Medical advice is to leave a minimum of two weeks between the two vaccines. I've already booked my flu shot as no-one knows how the hell they're supposed to sign up for the AZ vaccine yet.
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learnincurve posted:The current working here is 11 weeks apart, and then by this winter they will develop a yearly booster that takes into account all the current variants and either combine it with the flu jab or do them both at the same time - all our elderly, vulnerable and care workers get the flu jab so as usual the idea is to guess and hope like hell this works. That is one big question I have is how long will this protection last, and how often will I need a booster. Yearly? More often than that? I guess there's not a lot of clear data on that yet for obvious reasons. But covid is presumably not going away even if lots of people get vaccinated so it stands to a reason we'll need boosters.
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Platystemon posted:Officially, two weeks. In reality, see the attached graphs. Maybe eight weeks. I've never been able to tell, does that graph's timeline start from the first injection or the second?
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Kestral posted:I've never been able to tell, does that graph's timeline start from the first injection or the second? That vaccine only has one.
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Ginette Reno posted:Mine is 4 weeks. I thought 3 was supposed to be standard but I guess there's a window of 6 weeks or something? The science isn't definite enough for confidence yet, but the last article that I read indicated that by three weeks after the first shot, efficacy is at 92.6%. It seems like the second shot only provides a very marginal boost. https://www.infectiousdiseaseadviso...73-astrazeneca/ (Obviously, get your second shot anyway!)
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Especially since they will be changing the vaccines to accommodate new/dominant stains if need be so the second one *may* end up being slightly different to the first
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For folks in PA, the tracker/map that the state put out doesn't seem to include the vaccination clinics that the counties are running. In Central PA, I was able to schedule an appointment through my husband by doing a search for x county vaccination clinic and made an appointment for tomorrow that way.
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