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Dawgstar posted:It is crazy the talent that got honed in IWA. Every early card I see from them read's like The Indies' Who's Who of the 00's. The women too, of course. Didn't Prazak start SHIMMER because he saw them come through IWA-MS and was like 'hey, there's enough women wrestlers to run a promotion?' I think the really crazy one is who went through the CZW school under DJ Hyde. It's a who's who of mainstream main eventers now
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Ian was hitting people up for money at JC Bailey's funeral so gently caress him too.
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I think Ian Rotten paid wrestlers like JC Bailey in pills. You know, wrestlers who had addiction issues.
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Dawgstar posted:It is crazy the talent that got honed in IWA. Every early card I see from them read's like The Indies' Who's Who of the 00's. The women too, of course. Didn't Prazak start SHIMMER because he saw them come through IWA-MS and was like 'hey, there's enough women wrestlers to run a promotion?' I forget when Shimmer was originally announced—the first show was 18 months after Volcano Girls—but it deepened Prazak's relationship with ROH because they were the DVD distributor at the start. If I'm parsing results right, Prazak and Whitmer quit IWAMS in August 2005, about 3 months before Shimmer's first show. (I misremembered earlier; Jacobs stuck around.) But Volcano Girls was absolutely a proof of concept, even if informally. Being able to launch a domestic women's promotion that could be used to develop talent so they wouldn't be stuck always wrestling the same opponents had been a goal of Dave's for quite a while. He was at least an informal adviser to Kiryoku Pro, the VERY short-lived women's spinoff of Chikara Pro in its early days, which was run by his friend Joanne Starer, Mike Quackenbush's then-girlfriend. It never really got off the ground for a number of reasons, the most obvious of which was the debut show being completely gutted by outright no-shows as well as short-notice pull-outs. But you can see the DNA of Shimmer and its ethos in the matches that went off as scheduled on the first show, most notablyhe the main event of Sumie Sakai vs. Little Jeanne. Sumie had just come to the U.S. for what was assumed to be an extended working vacation (she stayed for good), but was based in New England and had been wrestling Mercedes Martinez exclusively. (Martinez almost exclusively worked with Trinity Campbell as her main opponent before that.) Joanne, wanting a different match, put Sumie in with Jeanne instead, while Martinez worked with Lexie Fyfe. All of that said: I distinctly remember Chikara selling the tape of the debut show for an unusually low price by 2002 indie wrestling standards, especially since early, self-produced, pre-Smart Mark Video affiliation Chikara actually made an effort with packaging. It might have been $8? Maybe even less? There was absolutely a concern that fans wouldn't pay for a women's show, and that may have even been a pre-order price before the show actually took place. Because it was so early in the era of indies being able to sell tapes/DVDs reliably, I presume that they just didn't know yet that, between "regular" fans and fetish-oriented fans, women's wrestling videos might actually be the easiest sell in indie wrestling. When Shimmer Vol. 1 was released, it quickly became the fastest-selling DVD in the history of ROH other than Joe vs. Kobashi, IIRC. davidbix fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Mar 16, 2021 |
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I got real confused at the end of the last page when I thought people were talking about Ian Riccaboni. I don’t know why I thought this.
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Jim Cornette did not get and then very promptly lose "that shoot job at the Taco Bell" and as such is significantly less funny than Ian
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Charlie Haas has now earned his place in the Cornhole. https://twitter.com/WrestlingMark8/status/1371674152990613506?s=20
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Vandar posted:Charlie Haas has now earned his place in the Cornhole. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR05qLcWabE
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Who the gently caress is Charlie Haas?
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Gonzo McFee posted:Who the gently caress is Charlie Haas? He sucked.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Who the gently caress is Charlie Haas?
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rEsPeCt Ur ElDeRs
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Vandar posted:Charlie Haas has now earned his place in the Cornhole. I wonder whose choice it was for KoW to drop the titles to Haas/Benjamin
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Vandar posted:Charlie Haas has now earned his place in the Cornhole.
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A quick glance at wikipedia shows that Haas was at OVW while Cornette was running it. edit: my insinuation of this being "Did Charlie Haas gently caress Cornette's wife? while Jim watched?
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Isn’t Charlie Haas a notoriously unpleasant person to work with on top of the racism?
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Yes. He's a roid rage rear end in a top hat who is no longer relevant or employed in the industry. Kind of a trend popping up among the people who support Cornette. Also, not that I'm defending anyone, but Ian Rotten probably wouldn't run and hide and call the cops at a convention when Santino was looking for him after riling a bunch of poo poo up.
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Lumbermouth posted:Isn’t Charlie Haas a notoriously unpleasant person to work with on top of the racism? I vaguely remember that being the case when he was in ROH.
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Not sure what you guys mean, Haas hasn't got an ounce of ring rust on him https://twitter.com/naturalbornheel/status/1371928706260856833
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Tato posted:Also, not that I'm defending anyone, but Ian Rotten probably wouldn't run and hide and call the cops at a convention when Santino was looking for him after riling a bunch of poo poo up.
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Mob posted:Not sure what you guys mean, Haas hasn't got an ounce of ring rust on him jesus christ
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Uh, is that really him? Holy poo poo
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davidbix posted:That's a bad example because he was clearly trying to bait Jim into a physical confrontation. I can't really blame him for his reaction to Santino there. I mean if the dude didn't want a confrontation he shouldn't have slapped Santino at their shared workplace and then bragged about it in numerous shoots like Santino was the rear end in a top hat.
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addiction: it’s not good
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Tato posted:Uh, is that really him? Holy poo poo https://www.mandatory.com/wrestlezone/news/1214357-charlie-haas-returns-pro-wrestling-brand-new-look That's a texas sized 10-4.
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Meth addicts probably make up a decent portion of Cornette's fan base
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Looks like Shawn Michaels got on crack
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Critical posted:I mean if the dude didn't want a confrontation he shouldn't have slapped Santino at their shared workplace and then bragged about it in numerous shoots like Santino was the rear end in a top hat.
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Critical posted:I mean if the dude didn't want a confrontation he shouldn't have slapped Santino at their shared workplace and then bragged about it in numerous shoots like Santino was the rear end in a top hat. Yeah I'm gonna second the motion. Talk poo poo, get hit.
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I liked Charlie Haas when he was in WWE. I liked his teaming with Shelton and Angle. I even liked the short run he had where he would mimic a different famous wrestler each week in a squash match. I feel bad now.
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Mob posted:Not sure what you guys mean, Haas hasn't got an ounce of ring rust on him charlie's horse cut with raw
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lol so making fun of cornette’s fetishes is not okay but making a bunch of druggie jokes is, got it
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I'll make fun of both I am not constrained by manmade internet laws
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Remember, Cornette booked Haas and Benjamin beating The Briscoe Brothers using the old 80s gimmick of an "ether" soaked rag. ROH fans poo poo all over it.
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Vandar posted:Who's going to bite the bullet and put up with Corncob for an hour? 
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I did this for you. Cornette begins by gleefully announcing he's "done it again!', brags about trending on twitter which I doubt is true. He says he wants to have the most people ever blocked on twitter, he stammers "because..it's fun." He is really pathetic. He says Miro threatened him with "either physical or sexual assault, i'm not sure". He spends a lot of time talking about Hannah Barbara cartoons. He uses the term "cum dumpster" then immediately says his head is "not in the gutter" like others. He keeps calling Penelope "Slut". Alright I made it 8 minutes I can't do it anymore.
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