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Augus posted:Beavis nutz walked right into that one 
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Mar 18, 2021 03:54
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Hey, that's fair. I've grown self-aware enough that I'm kind of done derailing the topic discussing his films and plot points. Folks just have different tastes and that's cool. They like what they like and dislike what doesn't work for them. Just wanted to speak up because I really just don't like the whole Objectivist thing. Since Justice League is coming out tomorrow folks have been going through reviews for the Whedon version and some of it is some of the most hacknied writing imaginable. The ones that go on to talk about Snyder and Whedon aged like spoiled milk.
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Mar 18, 2021 03:55
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Jimbot posted:Hey, that's fair. I've grown self-aware enough that I'm kind of done derailing the topic discussing his films and plot points. Folks just have different tastes and that's cool. They like what they like and dislike what doesn't work for them. Just wanted to speak up because I really just don't like the whole Objectivist thing. Since Justice League is coming out tomorrow folks have been going through reviews for the Whedon version and some of it is some of the most hacknied writing imaginable. The ones that go on to talk about Snyder and Whedon aged like spoiled milk. its cool. i have no issue with the movies. i like parts of them. i am just a sucker for animated series ideal of superman or reeves superman. the ultimate boyscout/secular jesus type who is just a genuinely good person but not naïve but also has a quippy/clever side. plus when they break bad. its more interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0e6MCq3DbQ
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Mar 18, 2021 03:58
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Liking The Fountainhead isn't a sign that someone is an objectivist. It's merely a sign that they have bad taste sometimes.
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Mar 18, 2021 04:05
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I've only watched Man of Steel so far but its politics and themes were pretty left wing I thought. You had: A rich ruling class destroy a planet through careless and greedy environmental policies An antagonist whos a fascist that wants to "preserve" his culture and people through genocide A heroic protagonist that protects a waitress from sexual harassment (seriously if MoS came out today, youd be hearing idiots crying that they made superman a "woke sjw beta" or something) Also, the protagonist decides to destroy the only thing that has any chance of bringing his civilization back to life in order to stop the villain and save the current world he lives in. The message being that it's wrong to destroy a society in hopes of rebuilding a dead failed one that you have a sanitized view of. You know, like how modern fascists want to kill or suppress LGBT people in order to bring back the "good old days" of the 1950s or whatever. Its explicitly anti fascist imo The whole "Snyder and anyone who likes him is a chud" thing just seems like a mix of your usual movie bob/macintosh style "consuming is activism" mixed in with a "Martin Scorsese ' movies glorify gangsters!" style misunderstanding of the text imo
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Mar 18, 2021 04:17
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"Zack Snyder: She didn’t even like Reagan! She thought he was a nationalist." lol
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Mar 18, 2021 04:28
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Speaking of which, just saw this on Twitter. He called out Geeks and Gamers ( a comics gate chud rear end in a top hat) and the chuds are very mad lol https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1372383386552111104 https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1372388672558014465
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Mar 18, 2021 04:31
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or from the fact that he made an adaptation of a super fashy book like 300 and poo poo like 'superman saves someone being harassed' means nothing at all. Like, no not 'anyone who likes him is a chud' but him not loving with the existing superman backstory doesn't make him some secret leftist. Also in that movie Superman's whole final arc is learning that being a hero means making hard choices like killing people because what if they're SO evil they MAKE you do it then what huh??? and poo poo like him busting up the military drone all 'ha ha silly mortals don't you know it's not your place to watch ME, I am your superior being just trust me' done as a cute stinger ending. To be fair I don't think he's actually 'fascist' I just think he's a moron who's never had to think about things deeper than what looks cool on the screen.
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Mar 18, 2021 04:33
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Here’s a line from Whedons justice league after the flash awkwardly tries to fist bump cyborg. (Black screen due to HBO Max weird screen cap rules) 
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Mar 18, 2021 04:38
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Yeah I’m not crying over a loving military drone being destroyed
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Mar 18, 2021 04:38
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Jamie Faith posted:Speaking of which, just saw this on Twitter. He called out Geeks and Gamers ( a comics gate chud rear end in a top hat) and the chuds are very mad lol This is sublime. Imagine learning that Zack Snyder, your hero, has learned who you are specifically because you are such a gigantic piece of poo poo that he noticed.
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Mar 18, 2021 04:41
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Less Snyder Chat and more giant beyblades powered by chainsaws. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwrZuUiSXEI
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Mar 18, 2021 04:41
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Okay, I haven't heard of Geeks + Gamers before, but I'm gonna assume that they're some transphobic Gamergate group
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Mar 18, 2021 04:58
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Shinji2015 posted:Okay, I haven't heard of Geeks + Gamers before, but I'm gonna assume that they're some transphobic Gamergate group You might recognize them from their famous guest appearance 
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Mar 18, 2021 05:04
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Wrageowrapper posted:Less Snyder Chat and more giant beyblades powered by chainsaws. let's rip
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Mar 18, 2021 05:05
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Snyder has bad taste when he likes The Fountainhead but has good taste when likes Excalibur. Truly a land of contrasts. But seriously Excalibur owns.
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Mar 18, 2021 05:05
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I am very glad he is dropping The Fountainhead film, and I hope he never picks it up again, there's no positive angle on making The Fountainhead imo. Him doing King Arthur is a way better idea.
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Mar 18, 2021 05:08
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Give him a Star War.
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Mar 18, 2021 05:13
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Give him a Star War. Give everyone a Star War. Just keep filming new versions of The Rise of Skywalker with a different writer/director at the helm each time. I can't wait for David Lynch's take on it.
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Mar 18, 2021 05:56
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Liking Atlas Shrugged definitely makes you an objectivist right? And like, the worst taste.
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Mar 18, 2021 06:00
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Lynch has already filmed The Rise of Skymouse
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Mar 18, 2021 06:04
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Pants Donkey posted:Liking Atlas Shrugged definitely makes you an objectivist right? And like, the worst taste. But it's such a great fantasy book! The hero makes a machine that creates infinite energy out of like a car engine, 11 pounds of copper and a coat hanger or something right? And also I think there was a bit about an invisibility field too?
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Mar 18, 2021 06:07
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Pants Donkey posted:Liking Atlas Shrugged definitely makes you an objectivist right? And like, the worst taste. iirc Zack Snyder likes Atlas Shrugged in the same sense that goons like copy/pasting the beginning of john galt’s speech at random. he think’s it’s funny. discussions about Snyder’s personal politics are so boring, he’s just a Hollywood liberal
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Mar 18, 2021 06:08
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Pants Donkey posted:Liking Atlas Shrugged definitely makes you an objectivist right? And like, the worst taste. Not sure he likes Atlas Shrugged. Snyder liking The Fountainhead makes a lot more sense given it's about an artist whose works are modified without their consent. Part of the problem is that the story has some other issues with consent.
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Mar 18, 2021 06:14
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Not sure he likes Atlas Shrugged. Yeah, but liking a text which depicts something doesn't necessarily imply endorsement of - I like Pulp Fiction, but it doesn't mean I'm a big fan of tying up and buttfucking men against their will in my basement.
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Mar 18, 2021 06:31
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Shinji2015 posted:Okay, I haven't heard of Geeks + Gamers before, but I'm gonna assume that they're some transphobic Gamergate group Oh it's a hateful shithole. I always wondered if it was intended to be like a ripoff of Geek & Sundry.
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Mar 18, 2021 06:34
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stillvisions posted:Give everyone a Star War. I would get a tent in line to the movies if Taika Waititi did his own take on it.
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Mar 18, 2021 06:37
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Vagabundo posted:Yeah, but liking a text which depicts something doesn't necessarily imply endorsement of - I like Pulp Fiction, but it doesn't mean I'm a big fan of tying up and buttfucking men against their will in my basement. I'm not saying Snyder is a fan of those bits, I'm saying it's a lovely book partly because it has those bits in it.
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Mar 18, 2021 06:43
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I'd tie Ving Rhames up in my basement, only consensually though. Also at least Rand's terrible idiot ideology gave us Rapture, Bioshock's still cool outside of the goofballs things that Infinite tries to run with.
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Mar 18, 2021 06:52
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tbqh it really seems like he just wants to make a movie about a bunch of crazy people fighting over architecture and loving a lot. I don’t think he’s that deep of a guy
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Mar 18, 2021 07:05
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Jamie Faith posted:I've only watched Man of Steel so far but its politics and themes were pretty left wing I thought. You had: It might surprise you to learn that some people were very mad about Superman destroying that guys truck. "He ruined his livelihood, it was disproportional response, it was super petty! Not my superman!" etc etc. One thing I appreciated in the film is that Clark is coded as an illegal immigrant, being ostracized for being different and not fitting in. I really like the subtle criticism of the military in MoS. Individually they're all portrayed as good people, but as an organisation or a system they're at best insufficient at defending their own citizens and at worst they're actually destructive to their own people. In the Metropolis fight their own fighters and missiles are smashing in to the people they're trying to protect. To tie it back in to the original derail, here's a post from Hbomb! Hbomberguy posted:You are misinterpreting what I wrote. The military does a fine job - but their job is wrong. They arrest Superman as though he's some kind of criminal simply for existing, and they try to keep tabs on him when he clearly doesn't want anything to do with them - even though the film portrays the individuals in it as good people. You should absolutely watch Beavis next (that's BvS), Jamie. I'm curious to see if you think the left wing politics hold in the sequel too sexpig by night posted:or from the fact that he made an adaptation of a super fashy book like 300 and poo poo like 'superman saves someone being harassed' means nothing at all. Like, no not 'anyone who likes him is a chud' but him not loving with the existing superman backstory doesn't make him some secret leftist. Superman breaks an expensive spy drone and tells them off for spying on american citizens and maybe they should learn to trust them more and your take is that he's screaming at the military about being superior. Ok. Hot take: Superman scaring the military and destroying their expensive toys is a good thing
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Mar 18, 2021 07:29
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Jamie Faith posted:Speaking of which, just saw this on Twitter. He called out Geeks and Gamers ( a comics gate chud rear end in a top hat) and the chuds are very mad lol lmaoo this owns
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Mar 18, 2021 07:30
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sexpig by night posted:Also in that movie Superman's whole final arc is learning that being a hero means making hard choices like killing people because what if they're SO evil they MAKE you do it then what huh??? By people, you mean the genocidal fascist who was right about to vaporize a family, right? Killing fash who are literally right in the middle of doing a genocide is good actually  sexpig by night posted:and poo poo like him busting up the military drone all 'ha ha silly mortals don't you know it's not your place to watch ME, I am your superior being just trust me' done as a cute stinger ending.. McCloud already said what I was going to say: McCloud posted:Superman breaks an expensive spy drone and tells them off for spying on american citizens and maybe they should learn to trust them more and your take is that he's screaming at the military about being superior. Ok.  McCloud posted:It might surprise you to learn that some people were very mad about Superman destroying that guys truck. "He ruined his livelihood, it was disproportional response, it was super petty! Not my superman!" etc etc. lmao McCloud posted:You should absolutely watch Beavis next (that's BvS), Jamie. I'm curious to see if you think the left wing politics hold in the sequel too I'll probably watch it later tonight! I'm looking forward to it.
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Mar 18, 2021 08:03
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Jamie Faith posted:Speaking of which, just saw this on Twitter. He called out Geeks and Gamers ( a comics gate chud rear end in a top hat) and the chuds are very mad lol Geeks + Gamers already made a 3 hour response to this lmao Big Loser Energy
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Mar 18, 2021 08:36
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New video by Thor on overlooked GBA and weird GBA games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpOiuJkJTz8
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Mar 18, 2021 09:04
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Shinji2015 posted:Okay, I haven't heard of Geeks + Gamers before, but I'm gonna assume that they're some transphobic Gamergate group Yeah I'd never heard of them so I had a look at their YouTube channel and it just seems like an outrage generator channel. Probably less than one in twenty videos are actually about a game or geek film or something like that. Otherwise it's all "SJWs are ruining the world!" bollocks. People say those type only have one joke about gender, they also seem to have only one picture of an "SJW", a person screaming, that channel uses it everywhere.
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Mar 18, 2021 09:32
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I saw Man of Steel in theaters, was interested at first, and realized it wasn't working for me when it kept cutting to that one Daily Planet woman during the climax. I realized I'd learned nothing about her and had no reason to care about her specifically more than anyone else in mortal peril during the destruction of Metropolis.McCloud posted:It might surprise you to learn that some people were very mad about Superman destroying that guys truck. "He ruined his livelihood, it was disproportional response, it was super petty! Not my superman!" etc etc. The worst thing I heard about the truck scene was from Dan Olson, who was annoyed that nobody in the bar heard Superman ramming multiple logs through it. Wait, no, he did say it was petty and childish for Superman to take the guy's abuse and wreck the truck behind his back instead of, I dunno, nonlethally tossing the guy out like a normal bouncer would do?
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Mar 18, 2021 10:44
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I enjoyed Man of Steel mostly cause the action scenes felt really good. Like everything had a certain weight and there were small details that I really appreciated in the fights, like characters having certain differences in fighting styles and such. At times it felt like the action was a lot better realized than Marvel movies at the time, visually at least.
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Mar 18, 2021 10:51
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Jamie Faith posted:Speaking of which, just saw this on Twitter. He called out Geeks and Gamers ( a comics gate chud rear end in a top hat) and the chuds are very mad lol Jesus, Ryan Kinel looked like he got slapped across the loving face the second he put 2+2 together and realized his kino icon just demolished his chud buddy icon. It’s literally the Simpsons Ralph Wiggum “you can see the exact moment where his heart rips in two” thing. I’m starting to reconsider my take on Snyder as a person. That was cathartic.
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Mar 18, 2021 10:58
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https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1372423150814826497 Glorious cope
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Mar 18, 2021 12:04
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