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Zil posted:I don't remember that scene at all. Guess I just blackholed it in my memory after watching it. The only reason I was able to finish that episode is because I was so incredibly hammered on vodka for New Years I was afraid if I looked away or fell asleep I would die in my sleep.
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Sherlock was almost impressive with how quickly it managed to drop in quality.
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Edge & Christian posted:9-1-1 spun out 9-1-1 Lone Star though I don't know if they backdoor piloted it or not. Lone Star didn't have a backdoor pilot, there was only a crossover episode in Season 2.
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Mar 19, 2021 18:13
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Phy posted:The David Morse character who bounced off House's plot armor like a bb gun off a battleship? I wouldna minded seeing him get a new show, I liked that one where he was a cabbie who solved crimes Nah, not him. The shlubby amoral little poo poo that Cuddy was dating in season... four? I forget when. Was his name Lucas? He sucked anyway.
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Mar 19, 2021 18:31
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Remember when the fat detective gets House put in inpatient rehab and the episode ends with him doing really terrible white guy rap with that annoying weird lil guy? And now that annoying weird lil guy has the most successful musical ever, filled with that exact same cringeworthy awful rap?
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Mar 19, 2021 18:42
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Sherlock was almost impressive with how quickly it managed to drop in quality. i don't know if it ever actually had quality per se, but it did appear to have a lot of potential by seemingly having all the right pieces in terms of talent, creative direction and production and sometimes it did all come together for a couple decent scenes but it just never completely found its groove and clicked and, as the series went on, it sorta became obvious it never would
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Jedit posted:What was the last backdoor pilot which got a show lasting a full season? I know Vampire Diaries had a spin off that also had a spin off. It also had this monstrosity https://youtu.be/PxcVabGx484 Ugly In The Morning posted:Surprisingly no, it was some PI character from the terrible later seasons. I think I read the doctor from the mental institution he checked himself into was also going to get a spin off? I'm not bothering to fact check that though
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christmas boots posted:I enjoyed their version of Moriarty If I remember right, Moriarty is one of the characters who only shows up in later Sherlock Holmes stories and absolutely cannot be used unless you pay those copyright holders.
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Rockman Reserve posted:Remember when the fat detective gets House put in inpatient rehab and the episode ends with him doing really terrible white guy rap with that annoying weird lil guy? And now that annoying weird lil guy has the most successful musical ever, filled with that exact same cringeworthy awful rap? My wife and I watched Hamilton recently and it was almost like a reality show with the premise of "We pulled some random shlub off the street and made him the star of a Broadway musical!". It's crazy how pretty much everyone else was substantially more talented than the star.
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are the copyrights expensive , just want to know if the mehish cartoon "Sherlock Holmes in the 22nd Century" paid a pretty penny to have a clone of Moriarty do future things in in the 22nd Century.
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The Moon Monster posted:My wife and I watched Hamilton recently and it was almost like a reality show with the premise of "We pulled some random shlub off the street and made him the star of a Broadway musical!". It's crazy how pretty much everyone else was substantially more talented than the star. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CameSDK-2m8 Obviously not entirely representative of his ability today, but him in this video is always what I think of when I think of Lin-Manuel Miranda
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Isn't Moriarty barely in the original stories at all - I mean literally never mentioned then suddenly he's the arch nemesis in one or two stories and then dies?
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Sweevo posted:Isn't Moriarty barely in the original stories at all - I mean literally never mentioned then suddenly he's the arch nemesis in one or two stories and then dies? Yeah. I enjoyed the Guy Ritchie version of Moriarty (though the movie was bad) - all the way through the movies Sherlock has been planning out his fights in his head before he executes his plan, and when he and Moriarty have a fight suddenly Moriarty takes over the "planning" and it starts being a fight-telepathy-conversation between Moriarty and Sherlock where previously it was always just Sherlock considering exactly how he's going to dunk on his opponent.
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Phy posted:The David Morse character who bounced off House's plot armor like a bb gun off a battleship? I wouldna minded seeing him get a new show, I liked that one where he was a cabbie who solved crimes No, it was some quirky, sloppy weirdo in hawaiian shirts with a whole extended cast who got along with House and was as smart as him. It was a backdoor pilot in the truest sense of the term, where they shove a character intended for another show into the show they already have for three episodes.
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Sweevo posted:Isn't Moriarty barely in the original stories at all - I mean literally never mentioned then suddenly he's the arch nemesis in one or two stories and then dies? IIRC yes, he's in two stories. One that introduces him and one that kills him and Sherlock off (Sherlock got better.)
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Yeah, pop-culture made him into way more of an archnemesis than the actual stories ever did, though it's not hard to see why.
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Actually his first appearance was where he died. He only showed up in a prequel novel where Holmes vaguely eludes to him. (Final problem and Valley of Fear respectedly)
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Zil posted:I don't remember that scene at all. Guess I just blackholed it in my memory after watching it. Ooh, check out the fancypants with an oubliette in their memory palace!
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:No, it was some quirky, sloppy weirdo in hawaiian shirts with a whole extended cast who got along with House and was as smart as him. It was a backdoor pilot in the truest sense of the term, where they shove a character intended for another show into the show they already have for three episodes. I think it was this guy if I remember correctly: https://house.fandom.com/wiki/Lucas_Douglas
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christmas boots posted:Yeah, pop-culture made him into way more of an archnemesis than the actual stories ever did, though it's not hard to see why. No joke The Real Ghostbusters did an amazing episode with Holmes and Sherlock. Basically, they are made real because they are so well known they are willed into existence.
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AFewBricksShy posted:I think it was this guy if I remember correctly: God that show got so bad after season 3-4.
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1 posted:Ooh, check out the fancypants with an oubliette in their memory palace! I don't view it as a palace, more like a dumpster heap where I bury the anxieties and traumas.
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Mooseontheloose posted:No joke The Real Ghostbusters did an amazing episode with Holmes and Sherlock. Basically, they are made real because they are so well known they are willed into existence. Also Cthulhu episode owned.
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bunnyofdoom posted:Also Cthulhu episode owned. When I was a kid my favorite episode was The Thing in Mrs. Faversham's Attic which is a very lovecraftian episode also
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there’s a youtube channel (official, I believe) releasing an episode of The Real Ghostbusters a week from the start, and at the very least the first handful or so hold up well on the design and animation fronts. of course there’s top-tier voice acting as well, and a surprisingly catchy tune or two thrown in it’s a kids’ show, but so far it’s definitely a little more  than  in ways that show
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Mooseontheloose posted:No joke The Real Ghostbusters did an amazing episode with Holmes and Sherlock. Basically, they are made real because they are so well known they are willed into existence. how about when sherlock holmes fell into a time portal and met up with bravestarr, marshal of planet new texas? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO-6NfhutQU
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Recently rewatched a episode or two of Battlestar Galactica (the remake) and it just seems so utterly bleak and just needlessly dark. I think that was a complaint at the time of airing but i don’t know how well it’s “mature, edgy, very 2000s” atmosphere has aged or if it’s just me wanting more inspiring science fiction in our hell world Also, some Carlin bits aged very badly. https://youtu.be/mUvdXxhLPa8
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There is a strict technical sense in which use determines meaning, but I feel like the whole liberal apparatus 1946-2015 re: how to defeat fascism and threats to democracy through open and public dialogue that discredits bad ideas and shows people the truth really did not meet the test and has aged extremely badly. We know a lot more about how little to trust people now.
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Nckdictator posted:Also, some Carlin bits aged very badly. https://youtu.be/mUvdXxhLPa8 did you watch more than like 10 seconds of this because the whole point is "the intent and context is the most important part of saying any of these words and please assess who's saying them - and I myself am the whitest motherfucker ever" like you can quibble with the general idea of george carlin saying a bunch of slurs as a comedy routine, and again, he literally lampshades it but the central idea is very much not "well these are just words, they don't HURT anyone, there's nothing WRONG with them"
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DrBouvenstein posted:One of several superhero shows, probably. I love the Arrowverse so I can answer these ones: Barry Allen did indeed first appear in Arrow, although the episode ended with the event that made him the Flash. Legends of Tomorrow started as basically 'let's give all the side characters we like from Arrow and The Flash their own show'. It's hard to say exactly when Legends of Tomorrow started materializing as an actual planned show, but there was an Arrow and Flash crossover about Hawkman, Hawkgirl and Vandal Savage that was definitely setup for Legends' first season. Batwoman first turned up for an annual Arrowverse crossover, specifically Elseworlds. Superman and Lois is a more conventional 'let's give these popular characters their own show', they were regulars on Supergirl and got some big parts in the crossovers. Naturally, given... you know, Superman. Supergirl and Black Lightning both started off as alternate universes in shows made by the same people. Supergirl had a crossover episode with the Flash in her first season, but it took until the latest crossover, Crisis on Infinite Earths, for Black Lightning to come in. The same crossover also brought in Lucifer. Aaaaand that one Constantine show on NBC that you only barely remember got to cross over with Arrow while it was still timely, and later its Constantine joined the cast of Legends of Tomorrow. But in that case it was more of a 'what can we salvage from this show that's getting cancelled'.
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I think Legends started off as an Atom spinoff before they made it into an ensemble piece.
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Arivia posted:did you watch more than like 10 seconds of this because the whole point is "the intent and context is the most important part of saying any of these words and please assess who's saying them - and I myself am the whitest motherfucker ever" Oh, I absolutely know that. I’m just meaning that on first glance- if one was not familiar with Carlin’s life- it can come off as something very different.
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Flash was a funny situation where it was supposed to get a backdoor pilot on Arrow to gauge interest but CW executives were so happy with early footage they ordered it straight to series instead.
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Nckdictator posted:Oh, I absolutely know that. I’m just meaning that on first glance- if one was not familiar with Carlin’s life- it can come off as something very different. oh okay, that makes more sense. and yeah, carlin does look a bit weird now if you don't know the context
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Cleretic posted:Superman and Lois is a more conventional 'let's give these popular characters their own show', they were regulars on Supergirl and got some big parts in the crossovers. Naturally, given... you know, Superman. I wish they were regulars on Supergirl. Superman shows up a few times in season 2. Then he never shows up again unless it is part of a big crossover. Lois appears for the first time in a crossover, she has never interacted with her sister. (who was a regular in season 1 then disappeared when the show switched networks.) Despite this he is shown in the intro for every episode in seasons 3, 4, and I think 5. Superman & Lois is by far the best Arrowverse spinoff atm. Hopefully the rest of the season can maintain the quality of the first few episodes.
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Volcott posted:Someday they'll make a Constantine adaption that isn't bad and wrong maybe. Honestly, Constantine is really good on Legends of Tomorrow. Maybe the thing they really needed to make him work was a world he's not the center of.
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Nckdictator posted:Recently rewatched a episode or two of Battlestar Galactica (the remake) and it just seems so utterly bleak and just needlessly dark. I think that was a complaint at the time of airing but i don’t know how well it’s “mature, edgy, very 2000s” atmosphere has aged or if it’s just me wanting more inspiring science fiction in our hell world I'm doing a BSG rewatch now and I'd forgotten how glacial the pacing is in some of these episodes. Lots of deep meaningful looks and characters looking pained with the color gradients cranked to 11. It's still good, but definitely a slow burn. Things picked up a lot in Season 2 when they start to focus on the cylon point of view, because honestly, they're the most interesting characters. And I remember Season 4 just being batshit insane because the writers remembered that they had to come up with 5 new cylons and it turns out they're all connected because in a previous life they were in a Hendrix cover band. I'm looking forward to it.
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