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gently caress COREY PERRY posted:your regular reminder than 40% of india will be out of groundwater by 2030, and that india controls the flow of water into pakistan History repeats itself, is black tuesday 2029 gonna be a boe or a wet bulb mass casualty event or a mega katrina
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Tekne posted:Hell, traditional Chinese "medicine" managed to destroy the Vaquita, the world's smallest cetacean that lives only in Baja California's waters. At the very least, the CCP is consistent in their utter disregard for life whether it be human or animals of all stripes. It must be hard living up to 5,000 years of failure. lol, you think China is the large country with utter disregard for life?
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Mayor Dave posted:History repeats itself, is black tuesday 2029 gonna be a boe or a wet bulb mass casualty event or a mega katrina all three in different places
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Mar 20, 2021 07:50
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China and the USA can both be lovely, y'all.
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gently caress COREY PERRY posted:your regular reminder than 40% of india will be out of groundwater by 2030, and that india controls the flow of water into pakistan how is this not setting off every single alarm bell and red flag that we have??
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Zurtilik posted:China and the USA are both lovely, y'all.
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CODChimera posted:how is this not setting off every single alarm bell and red flag that we have?? lol edit: lmao
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CODChimera posted:how is this not setting off every single alarm bell and red flag that we have?? https://twitter.com/HarryCrumb15/status/1371301995018129410?s=20
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quick quiz: which nation is the one that dropped multiple nuclear weapons on civilians and to this day refuses to apologize or make any amends for it sure as poo poo ain't china
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Tekne posted:Hell, traditional Chinese "medicine" managed to destroy the Vaquita, the world's smallest cetacean that lives only in Baja California's waters. At the very least, the CCP is consistent in their utter disregard for life whether it be human or animals of all stripes. It must be hard living up to 5,000 years of failure. your effort at appearing really racist has been very successful, congrats! critical support for achievement.
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Shipon posted:quick quiz: which nation is the one that dropped multiple nuclear weapons on civilians and to this day refuses to apologize or make any amends for it We buy their Gunpla and superior cars. Its working out, okay?
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CODChimera posted:how is this not setting off every single alarm bell and red flag that we have?? Bells are noisy and they might interrupt my dinner You idiot
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Shipon posted:quick quiz: which nation is the one that dropped multiple nuclear weapons on civilians and to this day refuses to apologize or make any amends for it One of the "backup" plans if the bomb had ended up being a dud was to carpet bomb the Japanese home islands with hydrogen cyanide and sulfur mustard gas bombs which were projected to kill 5+ million people. Sulfur mustard was picked specifically because it loves to soak into wood, which the majority of Japanese houses were made of, and hydrogen cyanide was the closest thing the Allies had to a nerve agent at the time since they hadn't started copying the Germans' cookbooks yet. So while the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were a very public announcement and ghastly test of "real world applications" of nuclear weapons, they did ultimately end up saving lives.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:One of the "backup" plans if the bomb had ended up being a dud was to carpet bomb the Japanese home islands with hydrogen cyanide and sulfur mustard gas bombs which were projected to kill 5+ million people. Sulfur mustard was picked specifically because it loves to soak into wood, which the majority of Japanese houses were made of, and hydrogen cyanide was the closest thing the Allies had to a nerve agent at the time since they hadn't started copying the Germans' cookbooks yet. Actually, prior to the bombings the Japanese were willing to conditionally surrender if the US promised not to charge Emperor with war crimes. But US would only accept an unconditional surrender. They ended up not charging the Emperor anyway. Also, I've heard evidence that it was the eminent Soviet invasion that actually pushed the Japanese to surrender. The nukes were just an convenient excuse for both sides. So it's pretty dubious to say nuking civilians saved lives.
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Accretionist posted:Balls are shrinking. ] umm, excuse me? 
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mawarannahr posted:your effort at appearing really racist has been very successful, congrats! critical support for achievement. that's not racist you moron
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Saki posted:that's not racist you moron I think you should stfu for 5000 years
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BIG HEADLINE posted:So while the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were a very public announcement and ghastly test of "real world applications" of nuclear weapons, they did ultimately end up saving lives. really appreciate this d&d-circa-2009 take but gently caress off forever tia
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Massive lmao at making fun of a CCP slogan somehow being racist you loving donkey. They aren’t a stand in for Chinese people, especially since they are their greatest oppressor and victimizer. Also, since this apparently needs clarification, I think they like the other super powers have little regard for life. Doesn’t change the key roll TCM has had in obliterating random rear end species all over the planet.
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Tekne posted:Massive lmao at making fun of a CCP slogan somehow being racist you loving donkey. They aren’t a stand in for Chinese people, especially since they are their greatest oppressor and victimizer. Also, since this apparently needs clarification, I think they like the other super powers have little regard for life. Doesn’t change the key roll TCM has had in obliterating random rear end species all over the planet. Do better next time, buddy.
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mawarannahr posted:your effort at appearing really racist has been very successful, congrats! critical support for achievement. I don’t think you know what racism is. You could definitely get buy-in on this over in D&D if you’d like to try screeching about it there.
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stop making GBS threads orientalist tripe on the climate thread in the one forum that isn’t overflowing with said tripe and carry on doomposting.
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I think you will find nuclear energy only has peaceful applications
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mawarannahr posted:stop making GBS threads orientalist tripe on the climate thread in the one forum that isn’t overflowing with said tripe and carry on doomposting. please gently caress off, you tedious twat
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China is good and the US is bad.
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Bathtub Cheese posted:China is good and the US is bad.
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they both suck, one empire aspiring to overtake another
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FacelessVoid posted:Actually, prior to the bombings the Japanese were willing to conditionally surrender if the US promised not to charge Emperor with war crimes. But US would only accept an unconditional surrender. They ended up not charging the Emperor anyway. I remember hearing about the Soviet angle too, but it never made sense to me. Why would they be willing to surrender under threat of a Soviet invasion but not under the threat of more nukes or an American invasion unless they viewed they Soviet invasion as worse?
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FacelessVoid posted:Also, I've heard evidence that it was the eminent Soviet invasion that actually pushed the Japanese to surrender. The nukes were just an convenient excuse for both sides. right. considering more damage was done during the firebombing of Tokyo their calculus probably didn’t change much when a few more cities were destroyed via bombing. during the war a report that one bomber (er, three I think? there were 1 or 2 escorts) would’ve been met with “that was the weather observer/scout before the main wave” from an environmental standpoint the nukes are probably actually pretty far down on the list of damage from WWII. the oil campaign probably caused more lasting environmental damage
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its the same empire the tension is ginned up for domestic purposes on both sides of the pacific
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Admiral Ray posted:I remember hearing about the Soviet angle too, but it never made sense to me. Why would they be willing to surrender under threat of a Soviet invasion but not under the threat of more nukes or an American invasion unless they viewed they Soviet invasion as worse? They were already on bad terms with the soviets before the war
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Mayor Dave posted:They were already on bad terms with the soviets before the war Yeah, I know, I'm just saying that if the threat of invasion from the Soviets pushed them into unconditional surrender they must have expected extreme reprisals and complete destruction if the Soviets invaded.
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only an american brain sees communism as worse than nuclear annihilation
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Admiral Ray posted:Yeah, I know, I'm just saying that if the threat of invasion from the Soviets pushed them into unconditional surrender they must have expected extreme reprisals and complete destruction if the Soviets invaded. They were hoping to negotiate peace using the Soviets as mediators, and the invasion removed that possibility. The Americans used atomic bombs simply as a continuation of the strategic bombing campaign, which killed over one million civilians. As soon as they had invented napalm, they started dropping that on cities. As soon as they had invented atomic bombs, they started dropping them on cities. The question of the atomic bombings is simply part of the larger question of whether it's a war crime to bomb a city into ash - it is, but that was a very uncomfortable question for the Allies so they didn't put any Germans on trial for this crime.
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Admiral Ray posted:I remember hearing about the Soviet angle too, but it never made sense to me. Why would they be willing to surrender under threat of a Soviet invasion but not under the threat of more nukes or an American invasion unless they viewed they Soviet invasion as worse? IIRC they expected the Soviets to be far more brutal and the threat of a communist take over would have lead to a more dramatic remaking of traditional Japanese society. The Emperor would have been eliminated for sure as an example. Wish I had some of the articles on hand but it's been several years since I've thought about this stuff.
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Neat idea at 13:23 - 15:30. Dovetails with my yearning for 'Green Monks' to become a thing. tl;dw:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq67zwxylm4&t=803s On a related note, I wish I had the 'sales gene' and could write good talking points.
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Admiral Ray posted:Yeah, I know, I'm just saying that if the threat of invasion from the Soviets pushed them into unconditional surrender they must have expected extreme reprisals and complete destruction if the Soviets invaded. They may have heard something about how the red army acted as it advanced through poland and eastern germany
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:they both suck, one empire aspiring to overtake another Why do you think China is an empire?
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Bathtub Cheese posted:Why do you think China is an empire? Would you prefer imperial power?
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Chamale posted:They were hoping to negotiate peace using the Soviets as mediators, and the invasion removed that possibility. FacelessVoid posted:IIRC they expected the Soviets to be far more brutal and the threat of a communist take over would have lead to a more dramatic remaking of traditional Japanese society. The Emperor would have been eliminated for sure as an example. Wish I had some of the articles on hand but it's been several years since I've thought about this stuff. Mayor Dave posted:They may have heard something about how the red army acted as it advanced through poland and eastern germany Ty all for the answers.
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