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You also have stuff like Ao3 becoming a centre for a lot of fanfiction, and their no limit rules leading to more people into regular FF being exposed to the underbelly of it.
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Mar 20, 2021 15:27
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Ghostlight posted:hrm, yes, i can believe that even today animated animal loving is considered avant garde. For too long we've denied the reality that furries are on the bleeding edge of every revolution BFC posted:I don't think that people who just want to do Zuko again understand that a lot of his arc is necessary, and really the bare minimum, for a truly satisfying redemption. Yeah, you could really tell they were crunching for space by the end of season 3 and had to rush out a few final "bonding" episodes between Zuko and Aang, Sokka, and Katra (while taking a dump on poor Toph's unresolved angst  .) If anything, it really needed another half or full season to feel truly organic and like he'd finally overcome the prior 2.5 seasons of hunting and betraying them.At least we got https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voP9um7yi1Y
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Mar 20, 2021 16:07
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It is a shame that bloodbending was set up to be this powerful yet morally gray ability that Katara only uses once after its introductory episode.
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Mar 20, 2021 16:21
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:It is a shame that bloodbending was set up to be this powerful yet morally gray ability that Katara only uses once after its introductory episode. *Eyes Korra* Er, yes. Once.
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Mar 20, 2021 16:44
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Is Korra good?
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Mar 20, 2021 16:51
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Yes and... err no.
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Mar 20, 2021 16:54
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there's things to like about it but also a lot that weighs it down especially in its messaging
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Mar 20, 2021 16:56
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I just had a vision of Fox pundits ranting about “antis” as they currently do with “cancel culture,” and it filtering down to our family’s Republican boomer dad friends.
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Mar 20, 2021 17:04
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Korra is so frustrating to me because the show clearly has a lot of fans but I'm not sure if any of them actually enjoyed it all that much.
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Mar 20, 2021 17:05
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MacheteZombie posted:Is Korra good? If you like The Last Airbender, it's an interesting follow up, and it's cool seeing a non-western kind of early-modern industrial setting. It still has great fight scenes and the rich world building and music of the original show. However, the story arcs themselves are constantly undermined by executive and network bullshit like never knowing if they'd get renewed and constant backtracking on how many episodes were approved per-season. Plus general fuckery and mandates because Avatar as a property never comfortably fit kids show marketing schemas and demographic projections and that constantly made Nickelodeon queasy. Ultimately, Korra lacks a strong, clear bad guy driving the whole story forward like the fascist, genocidal Fire Nation in TLA, and instead it has to make a lot of backflips between smaller antagonists it can't comfortably say are mostly right, ideologically, so it has to contrive reasons for why they're wrong and need to be punched. Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Mar 20, 2021 |
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Mar 20, 2021 17:09
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Interesting, if kind of a bummer to hear. I'll check it out. I watched air bender for the first time last year and really enjoyed it.
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Mar 20, 2021 17:19
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Some of you might know TB Skyren, who does a lot of deep dives of League of Legends character design (he's also got some quite good Let's Plays) and has recently been doing short bite-sized videos ideally suited for TikTok. Well: https://twitter.com/TBSkyen/status/1373307786646421505
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Mar 20, 2021 17:23
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Matt McMuscles - What Happened? - Cyberpunk 2077 https://youtu.be/J7E_HBXCnmg UpIsNotJump - Hitman 3 VR Is A Nightmare - Here's Why https://youtu.be/rP8g04bUWB0
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Mar 20, 2021 17:28
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The goofy thing about the whole new Avatar push by Nick is how dirty they ended up doing Korra when it originally aired.
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Mar 20, 2021 17:32
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Korra’s first season is okay but has pacing issues and I hate the very obvious romance subplot that didn’t need that much time waffling and developing. The second season is dogshit (even the animation is subpar), and the only high points are the Wan two-parter and said romantic subplot being interesting. The third season is much better, although as mentioned before they have a villain who is mostly right but has an arbitrary extremist methodology so they’re bad. A small consolation is season 4 where we get a Diet Ozai that is the kind of fascist the season 3 villain warned against. So, starts good and goes down in quality, but goes back up in the second half. I’d say worth a watch if you liked the first series.
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Mar 20, 2021 18:06
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Jamie Faith posted:They do the same thing in the Pirate Warriors games and I love those games so much but god drat they are so ugly! Realistic skin textures looks so gross over cartoon or anime characters i also think some stuff animation designs just don't look good in 3d and like you said the weird realistic poo poo looks loving weird. i feel like borderlands of all games is what they should be emulating because they do a good job of 3d cartoon people with semi realistic looks at times also what the gently caress is wrong with these people on so many levels. like mother fucker, disney and lucas could give less of a gently caress about your weird videos. go have fun at your kids birthday party. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Mar 20, 2021 |
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Mar 20, 2021 18:33
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Captain Invictus posted:alpharad plays through Jump Force, so you don't have to. i am gonna say it. as someone who has never watched My hero academy and probably never will. it amuses me that All might is apparently a genuinely Good dude because he looks like loving Homelander with the "good guy" mask fully off and about to crush a childs head. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Mar 20, 2021 |
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Mar 20, 2021 18:42
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MacheteZombie posted:Is Korra good? Yes, no, yes, no, briefly yes, kinda, yes, yes. People who watched the show can probably mostly line this up with the parts I’m talking about. Anyways seasons 1 and 2 both start strong but also have some rather mediocre middles and conclusions (with an exception for a couple of episodes in the middle of season 2) but at least season 2 ends with way more spectacle. Because seasons 1 and 2 never stuck the landing seasons 3 and 4 don’t reach the heights of Last Airbender but they are actually quite good.
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Mar 20, 2021 19:01
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i am gonna say it. as someone who has never watched My hero academy and probably never will. it amuses me that All might is apparently a genuinely Good dude because he looks like loving Homelander with the "good guy" mask fully off and about to crush a childs head. In the actual series All Might is drawn with exaggerated, heavy shadows to create the impression of this awe-inspiring, unimaginably powerful figure. It's a playful nod to the way classic American superheroes are often drawn. Jump Force does not replicate that exaggerated shading at all and it makes him look extremely cursed.
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Mar 20, 2021 19:02
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muscles like this! posted:The goofy thing about the whole new Avatar push by Nick is how dirty they ended up doing Korra when it originally aired. I guess I missed this, what are they doing now?
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Mar 20, 2021 19:10
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Sydin posted:I guess I missed this, what are they doing now? from what I remember they were basically 100% sure nobody wanted 'more Avatar' and used any excuse like 'even though we keep loving with when it's on the ratings are low' to justify it and now they're all in on 'hey we know what you guys want...MORE AVATAR' long past Korra and focusing only on Aang stuff again.
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Mar 20, 2021 19:15
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Augus posted:In the actual series All Might is drawn with exaggerated, heavy shadows to create the impression of this awe-inspiring, unimaginably powerful figure. It's a playful nod to the way classic American superheroes are often drawn. yeah. that makes more sense and is pretty cool but honestly the shadows make him look way more menacing. the dude just looks evil or at least like some plot twist villainy. i guess he is my anime version of Boo Radley. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Mar 20, 2021 |
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Mar 20, 2021 19:25
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sexpig by night posted:from what I remember they were basically 100% sure nobody wanted 'more Avatar' and used any excuse like 'even though we keep loving with when it's on the ratings are low' to justify it and now they're all in on 'hey we know what you guys want...MORE AVATAR' long past Korra and focusing only on Aang stuff again. I mean, the show had legit issues with the writing, but Nickelodeon didn’t help matters.
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Mar 20, 2021 19:53
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Sydin posted:I guess I missed this, what are they doing now? Nick has opened up Avatar Studios focused on doing more Avatar stuff with the original creators back. Apparently the first project is going to be an animated theatrical movie.
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Mar 20, 2021 19:57
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah. that makes more sense and is pretty cool but honestly the shadows make him look way more menacing. the dude just looks evil or at least like some plot twist villainy. i guess he is my anime version of Boo Radley. he kinda is meant to look that, his whole thing is (without spoiling things) basically being MHA's Superman but he's got a pretty huge secret he hides for most of the story that, while isn't 'villainy' is a pretty major thing for Not-Superman to hide from EVERYONE except his pupil and a couple close friends, including his Not-Justice League. He's meant to look powerful and imposing and still kinda 'shady' and mysterious because he has a very obviously fake backstory that everyone just kinda goes 'yea no poo poo we don't know where he's from and all but...come on it's All Might, he's cool'. It's meant to feel a bit like he's got something dark he's hiding because he kinda is. It's a very striking character design that's probably one of the more visually distinct shonen characters, which is why Jump literally stripping everything cool to make him a lovely action figure is so funny.
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Mar 20, 2021 20:08
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For comparison   
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Mar 20, 2021 20:12
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I stopped paying attention to MHA around the time the plague doctor mask fellas showed up, but All Might is a fantastic character and his gimmick of being a twig man with a penchant for coughing up blood who transforms into a completely different artstyle on a moment's notice is great  his whole thing is "never show weakness, so that those who are powerless don't have to worry or live in fear, because All Might is there to save the day" is pretty cool too
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Mar 20, 2021 20:43
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Yea All Might also is one of the rare examples of an anime character doing the whole 'always be smiling and happy even when you're in pain or afraid' thing right because his whole deal is 'I'm literally the objective number one hero here, I HAVE to project strength and confidence because my literal job is to run around Japan saving people at their worst and they need to believe in us as heroes or this whole thing falls apart'. He has a few genuinely well written moments where it's clear Horikoshi very unironically loves western comics because he just has All Might do very Superman style 'I'm the most powerful person on earth and even then I know there are people suffering and needing help I can't get to, so that's why we need to be sure heroes are a symbol of hope, because we are gonna fail these people and need them to not give up on us when we do'. MHA, it's good.
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Mar 20, 2021 21:44
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Though MHA also does the actually heroes suck a whole lot actually so it’s a pretty standard capes comic at this point. It’s also a bit boring
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Mar 20, 2021 22:05
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One of the ways I interpreted All Might's weird smile/shadowed eyes is as a sort of grimace, since the first chapter establishes that he's basically on borrowed time with all his accumulated injuries and sheer exhaustion from living the way he does. I should get back on it, it's been a while since I last read any MHA. Did that storyline with the hospital raid wrap up? That's the last thing I remember reading.
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Mar 20, 2021 22:07
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MHA is a coaster ride that goes up and down with every new arc. I binged through the first 2-3 arcs, then completely checked out during the Gentle thief thing and beak-mask guy, and now its just coasting along. I remember an internet reviewer doing a vid on it, saying that it's popularity is in part of focusing on individual betterment instead of being part of a group. Dunno how accurate that is, but thought it was an interesting take.
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Mar 20, 2021 22:18
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CharlestheHammer posted:Though MHA also does the actually heroes suck a whole lot actually so it’s a pretty standard capes comic at this point. eh I'd argue they do it better than a lot of capes though. Instead of the typical 'what if Superman...was bad' it's more 'super hero society, much like ours, suffers from systemic inequalities that even otherwise good people benefit from even if they don't understand it'. Like, Toga's whole backstory is 'incredibly powerful quirk, easily the potential to be one of the top level heroes, but it's gross to make work so her parents freaked out' and the whole 'Endeavor is a straight up eugenics freak who horrifically abused his wife and children' is contrasted with 'yea no poo poo we all KNOW that but our system is our system and he's the number two hero so what the gently caress do you want us to do' where it kinda makes everyone look just a little gross too. There's no real dramatic secret he's hiding about it, it's just 'lol I'm like the vice president of super heroes who cares that everyone knows I tortured my wife to make super-babies you literally can't take that away from me'. There's always a pretty clear undercurrent of marketability and drama being a key part of what makes quirks 'good' or not and as the story goes it kinda evolves from 'lol internships with super heroes doing commercials and junk' to 'oh wait no you've actually set an economic and social system around making sure the guy who's sweat explodes feels like he's superior to someone who's power is 'frog' because that's how society treats those things.' Plus the League of Villain's arc in the manga is really interesting in that you see them explore a more grayish kinda outlook on 'villain' vs 'hero' but they never really go 'ah ha, mayhaps the villains are...the true heroes???' It's always pretty well 'no, they're not, they're still doing terrible things but yea they're able to speak to a genuine chunk of our population because we've failed them.' Which is all a giant allegory for how cults in Japan do their thing. sexpig by night fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Mar 20, 2021 |
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Mar 20, 2021 22:19
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That main kid is so sad. I hope his life got better. I only watched a few episodes.
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Mar 20, 2021 22:25
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CelticPredator posted:That main kid is so sad. I hope his life got better. I only watched a few episodes. oh don't worry it's still a shonen manga, that kid's super fine now even if he's still always crying
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Mar 20, 2021 22:35
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Archer666 posted:MHA is a coaster ride that goes up and down with every new arc. I binged through the first 2-3 arcs, then completely checked out during the Gentle thief thing and beak-mask guy, and now its just coasting along. That’s all shonen really. It’s a genre that talks a lot about friendship but the actual actions mostly means is effectively just moral support. MHA problem is it does big set piece action battles well. They give you a pretty cool gently caress yeah moment pretty consistently. But the characters themselves are pretty flat so everything between those set pieces kind of suck
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Mar 20, 2021 22:56
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muscles like this! posted:Nick has opened up Avatar Studios focused on doing more Avatar stuff with the original creators back. Apparently the first project is going to be an animated theatrical movie. lmao that's pathetic. They did everything they could to kill Korra and now suddenly they're reviving the IP because they think it can make them a little extra dosh. gently caress off Nick.
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Mar 20, 2021 23:17
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Hel posted:You also have stuff like Ao3 becoming a centre for a lot of fanfiction, and their no limit rules leading to more people into regular FF being exposed to the underbelly of it.
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Mar 20, 2021 23:17
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sexpig by night posted:he kinda is meant to look that, his whole thing is (without spoiling things) basically being MHA's Superman but he's got a pretty huge secret he hides for most of the story that, while isn't 'villainy' is a pretty major thing for Not-Superman to hide from EVERYONE except his pupil and a couple close friends, including his Not-Justice League. He's meant to look powerful and imposing and still kinda 'shady' and mysterious because he has a very obviously fake backstory that everyone just kinda goes 'yea no poo poo we don't know where he's from and all but...come on it's All Might, he's cool'. It's meant to feel a bit like he's got something dark he's hiding because he kinda is. Captain Invictus posted:I stopped paying attention to MHA around the time the plague doctor mask fellas showed up, but All Might is a fantastic character and his gimmick of being a twig man with a penchant for coughing up blood who transforms into a completely different artstyle on a moment's notice is great thanks. yeah i am not a shonen nerd. i am sure the stuff is great and awsome and if i were younger id probably get into it more. i got put off shonen jump stuff HARD in high school so i never really looked into it outside DBZ and even that i only watched up to the end of the cell arc. sexpig by night posted:oh don't worry it's still a shonen manga, that kid's super fine now even if he's still always crying i think my biggest hurtle getting into shonen is i dislike stuff with tons and tons of filler(which is ironic because i like Asscreed games and big rpgs) like i am sure the stories are great and cool but i can't get past the "lets have a 10 episode arc where we gently caress around on a side quest that won't mean poo poo until 300 episodes from now) or "the planet will explode in 5 mins" or the thing i hate in DBZ where its just Number battles after a while. like alprads video on the lovely game shows why i dislike those shows and many of the games based on them. because they are just the same story line over and over and death is meaningless most of the time.
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Mar 21, 2021 00:08
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Filler isn’t really a thing anymore at least for seasonal anime as they don’t need to produce weekly episodes every week and try not and overtake the manga it was based on
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Mar 21, 2021 00:23
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BrianWilly posted:I think it has to be stressed that Ao3 -- a completely all-encompassing, uncensored, unfiltered archival resource for all fanfiction of all stripes -- is unequivocally A Good Thing and that a lot of the pushback against it stems from profoundly puritanical, if not outright reactionary, mindsets. Not really, most of the pushback I see as a relative outsider are POC being sick of the unfiltered stuff leading to a lot of racist fan fiction, which signals that the space isn't for them. So it's not fan fiction of all stripes, it's fan fiction by people who aren't pushed away or excluded by the lovely stuff that they allow.
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Mar 21, 2021 00:32
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