The 2021 NFL Draft Thread - there's no way to be Surtain

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Amy Pole Her: Jun 17, 2002

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# ? Mar 22, 2021 19:02

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# ? Jun 8, 2024 22:29

Eifert Posting: Apr 1, 2007; Most of the time he catches it every time.; Grimey Drawer

Athanatos posted:

We could probably do without the teaser post or click bait: "You'll never guess what linemen is going to get your QB killed! Find out at 11!"

I'm sure your notes and post will be appreciated by people who like reading about prospects, but we don't need a hype man for it.

Yeah if you think I've ever even considered the term hype regarding my own posting you and I probably don't have the same thought process. I'm more in the "blind and deaf old dog chasing a car that never existed" school of poster.

# ? Mar 22, 2021 19:51

a neat cape: Feb 22, 2007; Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

https://twitter.com/ShanyeWest15/status/1374068824719257601?s=20

# ? Mar 22, 2021 19:55

Blitz of 404 Error: Sep 19, 2007; Joe Biden is a top 15 president

(OOC: we would be lucky to get a mcmuffin for Jalen Richard)

# ? Mar 22, 2021 20:18

Professor Funk: Aug 4, 2008; WE ALL KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN

https://twitter.com/ustadium/status/1374084033177649156?s=21

# ? Mar 22, 2021 20:43

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

Professor Funk posted:

https://twitter.com/ustadium/status/1374084033177649156?s=21

Best player in the draft.

# ? Mar 22, 2021 20:47

Eifert Posting: Apr 1, 2007; Most of the time he catches it every time.; Grimey Drawer

Like 95% of Bengals fans are outraged at the very idea that we might draft that dude.

# ? Mar 22, 2021 20:49

tarbrush: Feb 7, 2011; ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO

Jeez. He might be Megatron/Julio

# ? Mar 22, 2021 20:50

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

He's basically Colt Lyerla without the ~~cocaine~~ heroin addiction.

# ? Mar 22, 2021 20:57

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

It looks like Caleb Farley has a back condition and strategically chose right before his pro day as the ideal time to get an outpatient procedure. Might not be a 1st rounder any more according to Connor Rogers.

https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/1370106407912046592
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1374084544723292161

Diva Cupcake fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Mar 22, 2021

# ? Mar 22, 2021 21:18

tarbrush: Feb 7, 2011; ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO

I do not like any procedure with "diskectomy" in it.

Oh, no, it's not one of those. Carry on

# ? Mar 22, 2021 21:27

Amy Pole Her: Jun 17, 2002

Pitts doesn�t have the extra gear you saw with Calvin but drat he�s every bit of Mike Evans physically

# ? Mar 22, 2021 21:33

Ragnarok the Red: Jun 21, 2002

Diva Cupcake posted:

It looks like Caleb Farley has a back condition and strategically chose right before his pro day as the ideal time to get an outpatient procedure. Might not be a 1st rounder any more according to Connor Rogers.

https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/1370106407912046592
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1374084544723292161

I guess that makes the Farley/Surtain choice for Dallas, assuming Denver doesn�t snipe Patrick beforehand.

# ? Mar 22, 2021 22:23

Ches Neckbeard: Dec 3, 2005; You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!

Diva Cupcake posted:

It looks like Caleb Farley has a back condition and strategically chose right before his pro day as the ideal time to get an outpatient procedure. Might not be a 1st rounder any more according to Connor Rogers.

https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/1370106407912046592
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1374084544723292161

He's going to be reasonably allergic to tackling. Poor kid

# ? Mar 22, 2021 22:25

TheGreyGhost: Feb 14, 2012; �Go win the Heimlich Trophy!�

Amy Pole Her posted:

Pitts doesn�t have the extra gear you saw with Calvin but drat he�s every bit of Mike Evans physically

Calvin's 40 was in someone else's shoes that he decided to run at the last second. I firmly believe he would've put up John Ross/CJ2K numbers if he had prepped for it with the same intensity guys do now.

Evans is probably a better comp for how you could use Pitts, though Brandon Marshall meets Vernon Davis is probably closer to how he actually catches and moves outside of the middle of the field. Like, Pitts is such a marginal improvement over the average high-end TE prospect that I'm a little shocked anyone is that mad at him in the top 5.

# ? Mar 22, 2021 22:37

Doltos: Dec 28, 2005; 🤌🤌🤌

Diva Cupcake posted:

It looks like Caleb Farley has a back condition and strategically chose right before his pro day as the ideal time to get an outpatient procedure. Might not be a 1st rounder any more according to Connor Rogers.

https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/1370106407912046592
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1374084544723292161

It's worrisome but looks like it isn't that huge of a deal.

https://www.spineuniverse.com/treatments/surgery/lumbar/predicting-return-play-following-lumbar-discectomy-professional-football

Still will probably gently caress up his draft stock which is a shame because he was as lockdown as they come out of college.

# ? Mar 22, 2021 22:59

D-LINK: Oct 1, 2007; I was talking to peachy Peach about kissy Kiss. He bought me a soda.

Sweet, hopefully he falls to the Steelers

# ? Mar 22, 2021 23:08

Raku: Nov 7, 2012; Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.

Roll Tide

zimbomonkey posted:

alabama db? i dunno

look i get that cyrus jones busted but marlon humphrey was the same fuckin draft

# ? Mar 23, 2021 01:12

Rectal Placenta: Feb 25, 2011

Diva Cupcake posted:

He's basically Colt Lyerla without the ~~cocaine~~ heroin addiction.

Man, that's a name I haven't seen in a while

# ? Mar 23, 2021 03:29

Eifert Posting: Apr 1, 2007; Most of the time he catches it every time.; Grimey Drawer

I really like what I've read about this safety class. lotta flexible guys. Would like to snag Josh Bledsoe in particular. Seems like Von Bell with more upside.

This write up on Shawn Davis from Florida's hilarious. It has all this positive commentary, and then spends a couple sentences ranting about how we only ever tries to catch the ball with one hand. They gave him a UDFA grade and up until that sentence he reads like a second or third rounder.

Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Mar 23, 2021

# ? Mar 23, 2021 14:06

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Woof. I really wanted him in the early 2nd at one point but that height is going to be tough.

https://twitter.com/APGroover/status/1374351479209795585

# ? Mar 23, 2021 14:45

Henchman of Santa: Aug 21, 2010

lol
https://twitter.com/StaceyDales/status/1374355691373223939?s=19

# ? Mar 23, 2021 14:58

Eifert Posting: Apr 1, 2007; Most of the time he catches it every time.; Grimey Drawer

Baby Hawk was that size and less of an athlete and he had a very productive career.

He seems fairly popular. Most of stuff I've seen has him just outside the top five for wide receivers and he seems to be more or less slotted in to the second round. Toney's always pretty consistently ranked ahead of him though.
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Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Mar 23, 2021

# ? Mar 23, 2021 15:16

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

Anyone have thoughts on Dyami Brown? I haven't paid much attention to him at all. I was recommended YouTube video where Chris Simms ranked Brown as his #3 WR in the draft. I don't want to immediately dismiss this because Simms has a decent record with some of these projections. He famously had DK Metcalf as his #1 WR in 2019 when everyone else was making GBS threads on the kid's 3 cone.

so I guess I'm just curious if anyone here is super high on this guy.

# ? Mar 23, 2021 15:37

FizFashizzle: Mar 30, 2005

Henchman of Santa posted:

lol
https://twitter.com/StaceyDales/status/1374355691373223939?s=19

shades of that one korean weightlifter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qKY6JLm-3s

# ? Mar 23, 2021 15:42

Amy Pole Her: Jun 17, 2002

Perfect replacement for Grant, Miami. Please just let him drop to the 2nd.

Draft a playmaker in every round

# ? Mar 23, 2021 15:44

Ches Neckbeard: Dec 3, 2005; You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!

Ehud posted:

Anyone have thoughts on Dyami Brown? I haven't paid much attention to him at all. I was recommended YouTube video where Chris Simms ranked Brown as his #3 WR in the draft. I don't want to immediately dismiss this because Simms has a decent record with some of these projections. He famously had DK Metcalf as his #1 WR in 2019 when everyone else was making GBS threads on the kid's 3 cone.

so I guess I'm just curious if anyone here is super high on this guy.

He's got deep threat all over him. I've been horny for him and could see him above Rondale Moore if Rondale's injury history remains sketchy. Day 2 guy that I really want in cleveland but that's really unlikely all things considering.

# ? Mar 23, 2021 15:57

tarbrush: Feb 7, 2011; ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO

I'm new to him, but he looks like a perfect day 2 guy with a low but not awful floor and a really high ceiling. I'd definitely like him on the Dolphins, with a view to him understudying Fuller and replacing him if he kicks on.

tarbrush fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Mar 23, 2021

# ? Mar 23, 2021 16:03

Amy Pole Her: Jun 17, 2002

The other Moore is in the conversation as well - Elijah

# ? Mar 23, 2021 16:13

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Here's Kiper's latest. I think both him and McShay now have QBs going 1-4.

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1. Jacksonville Jaguars
Trevor Lawrence, QB, Clemson

With four picks in the top 45, new Jaguars coach Urban Meyer and general manager Trent Baalke can get Lawrence some premier help. I wouldn't be surprised to see them take a wide receiver with one of their second-rounders (Nos. 33 and 45), and there should be stellar options on the board (Minnesota's Rashod Bateman, Ole Miss' Elijah Moore or LSU's Terrace Marshall Jr. would be ideal weapons). Offensive line and tight end are other positions to prioritize. But c'mon, this pick is Lawrence all the way. And the Jags have the No. 25 selection to add a high-end talent, as well.

2. New York Jets
Zach Wilson, QB, BYU

I'm down to 50-50 here on the Jets keeping quarterback Sam Darnold. Free agency didn't tip off general manager Joe Douglas' plan; he went out and got much needed receiving help with Corey Davis and Keelan Cole Sr., but this team needed weapons regardless of who is playing quarterback. We still have a ways to go until Round 1 begins, but this is the scenario in which Douglas gets a second-round pick for Darnold -- maybe from the 49ers, Broncos or Panthers, if my upcoming mock trade doesn't happen -- and the Jets move forward with a new face of their future. Wilson has a superstar ceiling.

3. Carolina Panthers (via mock trade with MIA through HOU)
Justin Fields, QB, Ohio State

We've seen the Panthers be aggressive to try to add a quarterback this offseason -- in the Matthew Stafford sweepstakes -- and it's clear that Teddy Bridgewater isn't their long-term answer at the position. I think the top four quarterbacks will be off the board by the time Carolina picks at No. 8, which means it is going to have to keep up that aggressiveness if Matt Rhule & Co. like Fields or North Dakota State's Trey Lance. Fields could be eased in as the starter, and he'll have a legitimate No. 1 wide receiver with DJ Moore. The Panthers would instantly become a must-watch offense every Sunday.

4. Atlanta Falcons
Trey Lance, QB, North Dakota State

Atlanta's salary-cap situation means it mostly has to stay out of free agency, and it even had to restructure quarterback Matt Ryan's contract to get under the $182.5 million cap. That restructure means the organization can't move on from Ryan until 2022, at the earliest, but that's OK. Lance is going to need time to adapt to the speed of the NFL. He only started 17 games in college, all of which were against FCS competition, and it's a big jump to the pros. The Falcons need to start thinking about the future. They also are a prime trade-down option, particularly to try to get better value for a defender -- and acquire more picks.

5. Cincinnati Bengals
Kyle Pitts, TE, Florida

All along, I've thought it was going to be an offensive tackle here, but if Pitts and wide receiver Ja'Marr Chase are on the board, can the Bengals really pass them up? Joe Burrow has to get more playmakers around him. I think Pitts is just too good, and he would instantly upgrade this offense. He is one of the most talented tight ends I've ever graded, and there are people in the NFL who think he could be the second-best prospect in this class. With a deep offensive line class, Cincinnati could likely find a starting tackle or guard at the top of Round 2.

6. Philadelphia Eagles
Ja'Marr Chase, WR, LSU

The Eagles are another team that didn't have the cap space to be spenders in free agency, and this could be the ideal scenario for general manager Howie Roseman and new coach Nick Sirianni. They don't have the pressure to take one of the top four quarterbacks and let him compete with Jalen Hurts. Now, they can evaluate Hurts in 2021 alongside an elite wide receiver in Chase, then figure out next offseason whether Hurts is the guy around whom they want to build their team. This is a roster that has several holes, and Philadelphia has a long ways to go until it is back to being a Super Bowl contender. Chase would be a great addition to get this franchise back on track after a rough 2020.

7. Detroit Lions
DeVonta Smith, WR, Alabama

The Lions' projected starters at wide receiver? New signings Tyrell Williams and Breshad Perriman. There's not much else behind them, with Kenny Golladay and Marvin Jones Jr. both signing elsewhere. I would say this pick is likely going to the best wideout on the board, and Smith would be a tremendous choice. The Heisman Trophy winner doesn't have the biggest frame (6-foot-1, 175 pounds), but you shouldn't underestimate him. He is one of the best route runners I've scouted, and he beats any corner put in front of him. Detroit is clearly rebuilding, so I also wouldn't be surprised if it trades down to pick up more draft capital.

8. Miami Dolphins (via mock trade with CAR through HOU)
Jaylen Waddle, WR, Alabama

Let's go back-to-back Alabama wide receivers and reunite Waddle with his former college quarterback Tua Tagovailoa. Adding Will Fuller V in free agency shouldn't put Miami out of the running for a wide receiver with its top pick; Fuller only got a one-year deal, and this team needs to add playmakers around Tagovailoa for 2021 and beyond. A top three of Fuller, Waddle and DeVante Parker would be one of the NFL's best, and each of them could take the top off a defense. Waddle is the best deep threat in this stellar class. The Dolphins also could address their front seven here and use the No. 18 pick on a wideout.

9. Minnesota Vikings (via mock trade with DEN)
Penei Sewell, OT, Oregon

I like the fit here, particularly with Riley Reiff leaving in free agency. Sewell is an elite talent, and if this quarterback class wasn't so strong, he might be a lock for the top five. The Vikings have had offensive line issues for years, but Sewell would plug their hole on the left side. An elite O-line covers up roster flaws, and this is a step toward improving the entire offense. If Minnesota stays at No. 14 or does the opposite approach and trades down, keep an eye on safety. With Anthony Harris gone in free agency, there's a void there next to Harrison Smith.

10. Dallas Cowboys
Patrick Surtain II, CB, Alabama

The Cowboys brought back slot corner Jourdan Lewis, but there's still a hole at one of the outside spots, with Chidobe Awuzie walking in free agency. This selection could reunite former Alabama teammates Surtain and fellow CB Trevon Diggs. Surtain is the most fundamentally sound defensive back in this class. Offensive line is another position to watch -- particularly if Oregon's Penei Sewell is still on the board -- though Dallas could save that for Day 2.

11. New York Giants
Kwity Paye, DE, Michigan

The question I asked when I did my mock draft 2.0 was: Can the Giants get Daniel Jones a No. 1 wide receiver? Well, they're certainly paying free-agent acquisition Kenny Golladay like one. That means general manager Dave Gettleman could try to address another position with this pick, likely on defense. Though I don't have an edge rusher rated this high, Paye isn't far off, and teams always reach for pass-rushers with intriguing physical prowess. I've heard that Paye is going to impress scouts at his pro day on March 26 and put up incredible testing numbers across the board. The production wasn't there at Michigan -- 11.5 sacks in four seasons -- but I would bet on his upside, and you can see his tremendous first-step ability if you turn on the tape.

12. San Francisco 49ers
Caleb Farley, CB, Virginia Tech

I'm still not sold on Jimmy Garoppolo as coach Kyle Shanahan's top quarterback going forward, but do the 49ers want to give up the draft capital to trade up to get one of the top four guys? This is a team already without its own third-round pick because of the trade to acquire Trent Williams last year. (It does have a third-round compensatory pick, however.) My feeling is that San Francisco could instead stay put in Round 1 and address its biggest hole with one of the top cornerbacks. Farley is one of the best pure cover corners in this class. Here's a "wow" stat, courtesy of ESPN Stats & Information: In 2019 -- remember, he opted out of the 2020 season -- Farley allowed a completion percentage of 24.4% when he was the targeted defender in coverage, which ranked No. 1 in FBS. According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, Farley is having surgery on his back on Tuesday, but as of now, I don't think the injury will affect his draft stock.

13. Los Angeles Chargers
Rashawn Slater, OL, Northwestern

The Chargers have upgraded their offensive line in free agency with center Corey Linsley and tackle Matt Feiler, but I'd still take Slater if I were general manager Tom Telesco. That's how bad this line was in front of rookie quarterback Justin Herbert. As far as I'm concerned, only Linsley and right tackle Bryan Bulaga are locks for their positions, and Slater could battle for the left tackle job with Feiler or move inside. There are some teams that see Slater as the best guard in this class, even after he starred at left tackle for Northwestern. (He opted out of the 2020 season.) I don't think there's any way Florida tight end Kyle Pitts makes it to No. 13, but he would be a great fit for the Chargers.

14. Denver Broncos (via mock trade with MIN)
Micah Parsons, LB, Penn State

Denver moves down five spots in my projected trade and still gets the best off-ball linebacker in this class, a defender with the flexibility to play every linebacker spot. He could also put his hand in the dirt and rush the passer. Parsons opted out of the 2020 season, and I'm excited to see how he tests at his pro day on March 25. There's a wide range on where Parsons could go, but his athletic testing numbers could make him a top-15 lock. I had thought this team would target a corner at No. 9, and that could still be an option with Kyle Fuller only getting a one-year deal in free agency.

15. New England Patriots
Mac Jones, QB, Alabama

Look at that -- New England doesn't even have to trade up to find its quarterback. Cam Newton is returning for another season, of course, and that was a smart deal to bring back a well-respected guy whom the rest of the locker room loves. But Newton is not likely to be the Patriots' guy past 2021, and Jones could soak up the pro game for a season before taking over as the starter.

I've gotten in trouble before for saying that a few quarterbacks are "Tom Brady-like," but I'm really talking about accurate, tall pocket passers. I'm not predicting that these guys are going to become Hall of Famers. When I watch Jones, I can see some of the traits that have made Brady so good for so long. Jones is a pinpoint thrower who can manipulate the pocket and find targets down the field. He is a leader in the locker room too. This is a good fit. (Again, though, I'm not saying he is as good as the greatest quarterback to ever play the game, although you can find my pre-draft scouting report on Brady here).

16. Arizona Cardinals
Jaycee Horn, CB, South Carolina

With potential future Hall of Famer Patrick Peterson gone to Minnesota in free agency, cornerback is a clear need for the Cardinals. Horn had just two interceptions in three college seasons, but he locked down wideouts, and he would be a Day 1 starter for this team. I also thought about pass-rusher -- Arizona added J.J. Watt to play with Chandler Jones, but they're both over 30 and have had injury issues -- and wide receiver. A.J. Green is not a long-term solution.

17. Las Vegas Raiders
Jamin Davis, LB, Kentucky

Get to know this name, because Davis is a big-time riser. When I sat down recently to watch his 2020 tape, I loved what I saw. He has tremendous range. He is physical. He can play inside or outside. He can cover and has some ball skills, including picking off three passes last season. Davis is the total package, and he could slot in at middle linebacker for Jon Gruden's Raiders team. The other position to monitor here is on the offensive line, with former starters Trent Brown, Gabe Jackson and Rodney Hudson all being traded away in the past 10 days.

18. Miami Dolphins
Jaelan Phillips, DE, Miami

When I look at this roster, I don't see many holes. This team is going to contend for the AFC East title again next season. Since I gave Miami a wide receiver at No. 8, let's address the pass rush with Phillips, a former five-star prospect who thrived in 2020 at Miami after transferring from UCLA. He had 5.5 sacks in his final three games, really catching the eyes of NFL scouts. If you're talking about a pure pass-rusher, he might be the best in the entire 2021 class. He'll need some time to become a complete edge defender, but he is going to get to the quarterback in a hurry.

19. Washington Football Team
Christian Darrisaw, OT, Virginia Tech

Washington is out of the range for the top quarterbacks in this class, so this pick is tough to predict. I do like what coach Ron Rivera and new general manager Martin Mayhew have done in free agency, adding a top cornerback in William Jackson III, an underutilized wideout in Curtis Samuel and a perfectly capable stopgap quarterback in Ryan Fitzpatrick. There's still a gaping hole at left tackle, though, and Darrisaw could fill it. He had a tremendous 2020 season, and he is a stellar all-around blocker.

20. Chicago Bears
Alijah Vera-Tucker, OT/G, USC

Chicago is in a similar quarterback situation to that of Washington, except the Bears' roster around their signal-caller is more depleted. I thought about an edge rusher or corner here, but the right tackle spot is wide open. Could Germain Ifedi, who played guard for Chicago last season, move outside? It's possible. But I'd still draft a tackle at No. 20 and either start him on the right side or play him at guard and groom him to take over at left tackle for veteran Charles Leno Jr. Vera-Tucker is a high-upside lineman with all the traits to be a longtime starter at tackle.

21. Indianapolis Colts
Gregory Rousseau, DE, Miami

Under general manager Chris Ballard, the Colts never go all out in free agency, focusing instead on low-cost, short-term deals. And even though they could still bring back veteran edge rusher Justin Houston, this could be a spot to take a young defender. Rousseau had 15.5 sacks in 2019 and then opted out of this past season. He has an up-and-down evaluation, but you can't deny his production and size (6-foot-7, 250 pounds). He has a high ceiling. Indianapolis also has a hole at left tackle after Anthony Costanzo retired.

22. Tennessee Titans
Kadarius Toney, WR, Florida

With Corey Davis leaving in free agency, this is a really thin wide receiver depth chart behind A.J. Brown. Toney could have a few different suitors in this range, and Ryan Tannehill would love him. Toney could contribute as a dynamic receiver, runner and returner, and new offensive coordinator Todd Downing should get him the ball 10 times a game. Toney will do damage out of the slot: In his career, he averaged 15.6 yards per catch when lined up in of the slot, adding 10 scores.

23. New York Jets (from SEA)
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, LB, Notre Dame

I like what general manager Joe Douglas has done in free agency, but the Jets have to address their defense with this pick. I'd keep an eye on every position outside of defensive tackle -- Quinnen Williams is a future superstar -- and draft the best defender on the board. For me, that's Owusu-Koramoah, a sideline-to-sideline tackling machine. Yes, New York gets back C.J. Mosley, and it added Jarrad Davis in free agency, but coach Robert Saleh & Co. can find ways to get all three of them on the field. Owusu-Koramoah has some coverage traits that could make him valuable on third down. If one of the top corners drops to No. 23, the Jets should pounce.

24. Pittsburgh Steelers
Teven Jenkins, OT, Oklahoma State

The Steelers have serious salary-cap issues, which means they have had some tough losses in free agency and haven't added any players from other teams, just yet. They did retain wide receiver JuJu Smith-Schuster, however, and they could still bring back longtime left tackle Alejandro Villanueva, who is unsigned. I'd still address the offensive line here -- tackle Matt Feiler left in free agency too, and center Maurkice Pouncey retired -- and Jenkins is a tough pass-protector and mauler in the run game. I thought hard about Alabama center Landon Dickerson, who could be a Day 1 replacement for Pouncey.

25. Jacksonville Jaguars (from LAR)
Trevon Moehrig, S, TCU

Finally, a safety off the board. The Jaguars added Rayshawn Jenkins in free agency, but expect him to play closer to the line of scrimmage. They still need a deep safety to compete with Jarrod Wilson. Moehrig has range and can play as the center fielder, and he also is a solid tackler. I wouldn't rule out a wide receiver to Jacksonville here, and it also could be in the market for an offensive lineman. This team is still far away from contention, though, so this could be a spot to watch for a team trying to trade into Round 1.

26. Cleveland Browns
Zaven Collins, OLB/DE, Tulsa

Browns general manager Andrew Berry is having a nice offseason, adding help on defense and getting impact players in the secondary in safety John Johnson III and cornerback Troy Hill, both former Rams. And the way this draft is shaking out, there could still be solid defenders available late in Round 1. If Cleveland can find a pass-rusher to put opposite Myles Garrett, that's a huge win, which is why I considered Oklahoma's Ronnie Perkins and Texas' Joseph Ossai here. But Collins is a versatile defender who could play linebacker or defensive end, and I like his fit with the Browns. Get him on the field and watch him make plays.

27. Baltimore Ravens
Terrace Marshall Jr., WR, LSU

This is my third mock draft, and I've pegged Marshall to the Ravens in all three, which pretty much guarantees that they will go in another direction. It just makes too much sense, though. Lamar Jackson needs a wide receiver who can line up on the outside and run every route. That's how Jackson can take the leap forward in Year 4. Marshall had 10 scores and averaged 15.2 yards per catch last season, and he had 13 touchdowns while catching passes from Joe Burrow in 2019. This is another spot in which I thought about center Landon Dickerson.

28. New Orleans Saints
Tutu Atwell, WR, Louisville

The Saints are another cash-strapped team that must build its roster through the draft, and New Orleans lost some serious talent in free agency. The list below doesn't even including future Hall of Fame quarterback Drew Brees, who retired earlier this month. With Jameis Winston and Taysom Hill battling for the QB1 spot, let's add a playmaker around whomever wins the starting spot. The 5-foot-9 Atwell reminds me a little bit of former first-round pick Marquise Brown, who has flashed in two seasons with the Ravens. Atwell is explosive and could be used on jet sweeps. He is dynamic with the ball in his hands. Line him up outside and in the slot, and get him the ball.

29. Green Bay Packers
Greg Newsome II, CB, Northwestern

There are few "official" pro day times in this weird year, and so I have to rely on people in the league whom I trust to help with testing numbers. Newsome ran a 4.38-second and a 4.40-second 40-yard dash at the Northwestern pro day recently, and his speed shows up on tape. As my pal Jim Nagy pointed out, Newsome has great feet. The knock on him is that he only had one interception in three seasons, but ball production will come in time. It's not for lack of breaking up passes. Alabama center Landon Dickerson could fit here as a Corey Linsley replacement, and I'm sure Aaron Rodgers is again lobbying for some help at wide receiver.

30. Buffalo Bills
Najee Harris, RB, Alabama

I'm just a big fan of Harris. He runs hard -- he led the FBS in forced missed tackles last season -- and adds value as a pass-catcher. He will make better the team that drafts him. Buffalo doesn't have many clear needs, but it has to create better balance on offense to take some of the pressure off quarterback Josh Allen. Harris is an every-down back who can share the load. Offensive line and wide receiver are two more positions that the Bills could target.

31. Kansas City Chiefs
Liam Eichenberg, OT, Notre Dame

The Chiefs are shaking up their offensive line, signing guards Joe Thuney and Kyle Long in free agency and letting tackles Mitchell Schwartz and Eric Fisher and interior linemen Austin Reiter and Kelechi Osemele walk (although Kansas City could still bring back one or some of them on short-term deals). And even after retaining Mike Remmers, it makes sense to draft a young tackle who could start down the road. There's some buzz around Eichenberg, who was the Fighting Irish's left tackle for the past two seasons. He has great feet and packs a punch in the run game.

32. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Christian Barmore, DT, Alabama

The Bucs have spent free agency getting the band back together for another season, with wide receiver Chris Godwin, tight end Rob Gronkowski and edge rusher Shaquil Barrett among the players who have been re-signed. Barmore could be a replacement for Ndamukong Suh, who doesn't yet have a free-agent deal. Barmore was a game-wrecker down the stretch for the Crimson Tide, with five sacks in his final five games. He would be an outstanding fit next to nose tackle Vita Vea, who has emerged as one of the most dominant defensive linemen in the NFL.

# ? Mar 23, 2021 16:19

Ches Neckbeard: Dec 3, 2005; You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!

Yeah Collins isn't a DE and we don't blitz. The longer this goes on the less I want Collins

# ? Mar 23, 2021 16:21

Declan MacManus: Sep 1, 2011; damn i'm really in this bitch

i doubt sewell drops all the way to 9

# ? Mar 23, 2021 16:26

Eifert Posting: Apr 1, 2007; Most of the time he catches it every time.; Grimey Drawer

The Bengals are huge believers in positional value. Like to the point where it's a very clear and visible detriment to them. If Chase and Sewell were both on the board I give them like a 0001% chance of drafting Pitts. Honestly I would be extremely surprised if they drafted him even if Sewell and Chase were off the board, I don't think he's being seriously considered at all by them.

More and more I have a sneaking suspicion they've more or less already penciled in Slater. They're way too high on positional versatility, they don't value length at tackle as much as other teams and they have shown a clear lack of urgency at guard. I don't like it, but at this point I would say them drafting Slater at 5 is probably the most likely outcome. They probably figure they'll play him at right guard and then slide them outside to tackle when Reiff walks next year.

# ? Mar 23, 2021 16:31

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Yes, I will take one Vera-Tucker, thanks in advanced

# ? Mar 23, 2021 16:34

fsif: Jul 18, 2003

I've watched like an hour and a half of Zach Wilson to try to contrive reasons that I think he'll bust because he's likely going to the Jets and I hate his face but I can't do it. He looks unbelievable.

Maybe he'll wilt against better teams, but he was still fitting perfect throws into tight coverage and looked pretty good against pressure.

# ? Mar 23, 2021 16:47

kiimo: Jul 24, 2003

So many mocks without Rashod Bateman in the first and it gives me hope

# ? Mar 23, 2021 17:10

Nodoze: Aug 17, 2006; If it's only for a night I can live without you

fsif posted:

I've watched like an hour and a half of Zach Wilson to try to contrive reasons that I think he'll bust because he's likely going to the Jets and I hate his face but I can't do it. He looks unbelievable.

Maybe he'll wilt against better teams, but he was still fitting perfect throws into tight coverage and looked pretty good against pressure.

Just have to count on him getting infected with "on the Jets"

# ? Mar 23, 2021 17:30

Professor Funk: Aug 4, 2008; WE ALL KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN

fsif posted:

I've watched like an hour and a half of Zach Wilson to try to contrive reasons that I think he'll bust because he's likely going to the Jets and I hate his face but I can't do it. He looks unbelievable.

Maybe he'll wilt against better teams, but he was still fitting perfect throws into tight coverage and looked pretty good against pressure.

Yeah, his tape is pretty awesome. I was watching some this weekend. Like you said, it's the ball placement more than anything else that makes me feel like he can succeed in the NFL (being so clean off of play action is nice too).

Though I really don't think his arm is quite as good as people are making it out to be. Don't get me wrong, he has a good arm and I don't think he'll have any issues in the NFL, but I think his really snappy release makes people think he's throwing the ball harder than he actually is.

# ? Mar 23, 2021 17:32

FizFashizzle: Mar 30, 2005

Bust out the sun dial

https://twitter.com/albertbreer/status/1374402064206364679?s=21

# ? Mar 23, 2021 17:51

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# ? Jun 8, 2024 22:29

TheGreyGhost: Feb 14, 2012; �Go win the Heimlich Trophy!�

Ches Neckbeard posted:

He's got deep threat all over him. I've been horny for him and could see him above Rondale Moore if Rondale's injury history remains sketchy. Day 2 guy that I really want in cleveland but that's really unlikely all things considering.

My hot take is that the UNC receiving corps from the last year is going to get looked at like the Ohio State receiving corps from a couple years ago with McLaurin/Campbell/Hill where none of them were huge draft prospects, but they all turn out to be great to decent pros. He's a great deep threat, but you could absolutely use him in the screen game too to give him some stretch ability while you work on his ability to go over the middle. Newsome's a better sideline/slant guy who still has the ability to do a vertical stretch but has some meh hands and body catches all the time.

There are so many 'giant contested catch' receivers in later rounds this year too that if you're really that worried about Rondale's size, you can go get a guy to play opposite/next to him who is huge enough to create catch range. Tylan Wallace, Terrace Marshall, Seth Williams, and Tamorrion Terry are all sort of fascinating options for the 2nd-6th round on in terms of having big body receivers with okay speed who typically don't fall off. Seeing slot guys start to get valuation over them is cool and good, because a Rondale Moore or Elijah Moore or even Toney probably does more for most NFL offenses, but it's such a deep class regardless.

# ? Mar 23, 2021 18:22

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