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Platystemon posted:I saw we hook up a big ol’ chain between the Ever Given and one of the other large ships in the area. Start with a slack chain built speed Put one on each end pulling in opposite directions. Either you straighten it out or rip it in half. Win win.
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koshmar posted:You're not losing your mind. The front of the ship isn't symmetrical. It looks like the prow, if it's called that, is off center and more on the left side of the ship. No, it's a regular-rear end boat, as symmetric as anything else on the high seas. What's going on is that the bow isn't vertical, it curves forwards as it rises. But from that camera angle it's difficult to see - you just see the vertical side of the ship further back, and your brain assumes it's all vertical, and then gets a bit confused trying to make sense of the lighting.
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Platystemon posted:There’s a container ship blocking the Suez Canal and making the world seven thousand kilometres larger.
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Mar 24, 2021 05:10
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Imagine the world governments meeting whiteboard right now - Magnet (stupid) - Helium (shortage) - Dolphin People (too soon to reveal)
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Mar 24, 2021 06:04
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So why was a panamax ship transiting the suez canal?
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Mar 24, 2021 06:11
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I suppose they could anchor the stern where it is and run chains from the bow to the opposite side of the canal to winch the thing off the shore where it seems to be stuck. They'll probably keep trying tugboats for a while first.
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Mar 24, 2021 06:16
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That's normal shipping traffic. All but the nearest ships are still days away from the canal. Here's the actual backup  (The Suez canal apparently can normally transit 50-100 ships per day) here's a close-up of it as of 5 minutes ago, still stuck and still surrounded by tugboats 
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Mar 24, 2021 06:27
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You've got to remember that the red sea is pretty darn big. The distance those ships are traveling, from the Gulf of Aden at the bottom end to the Suez Canal at the top end, is longer than the distance between San Diego and Seattle. The oceans of the world are enormous in a way that can be hard to grasp looking at them on a map.
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It also doesn't help those maps don't give a proper perspective on how fuckoff huge Africa is. Edit: Maybe not those particular maps, but our sense of scale is off to begin with.
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Jabor posted:You've got to remember that the red sea is pretty darn big. The distance those ships are traveling, from the Gulf of Aden at the bottom end to the Suez Canal at the top end, is longer than the distance between San Diego and Seattle.  Edit: Jeez, it's like driving from Miami, FL to Duluth, MN. 
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Mar 24, 2021 07:40
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Cojawfee posted:
Yep, and you're doing it no faster than 35mph.
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Mar 24, 2021 07:47
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Phanatic posted:I know we just talked about all the dangerous stuff about the F-104, but did we forget to mention that the early models had downward-firing seats to prevent an ejecting pilot being transected by the horizontal stabilizer? Ah, the tubgirl maneuver.
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Mar 24, 2021 07:55
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It's honestly refreshing to have a world crisis this stupid "Ship too big? Just go fast!" E: Nothing in the Israeli press yet about this, let's see how long it lasts. By popular demand fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Mar 24, 2021 |
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Mar 24, 2021 07:57
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The Lone Badger posted:So why was a panamax ship transiting the suez canal? Panamax is a size category, and it's smaller in every dimension than Suezmax. By size it shouldn't have had a problem.
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Napoleon Nelson posted:Panamax is a size category, and it's smaller in every dimension than Suezmax. By size it shouldn't have had a problem. It's not a panamax, just registered in Panama. Ever Given is actually larger than suezmax (400 length x 59 beam vs 400x50 max)
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Azhais posted:It's not a panamax, just registered in Panama. Thanks for the correction, serves me right for not looking up the details before posting. It being larger than suezmax seems to make the situation make both more and less sense.
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Napoleon Nelson posted:Thanks for the correction, serves me right for not looking up the details before posting. It's still within all the actual limits of the canal though. Under regular rules(https://web.archive.org/web/20161114134414/http://www.antaresegypt.com.eg/suez_rules.pdf) you can go up to 64×∞. Vessels up to 74m can transit unloaded without any special permission, while larger still can get permission to transit. Had they not lost control of it, it could have easily transited it.
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Mar 24, 2021 08:46
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Guys I have an idea; why not just get an even bigger ship in there to push the other one out of the way?
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Mar 24, 2021 09:25
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What we need is a mega juggernaut of a ship to just power through and create a new better canal!
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By popular demand posted:What we need is a mega juggernaut of a ship to just power through and create a new better canal! Lewis Strauss staring up from hell yelling "We could have fixed all of this poo poo!!!!"
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Mar 24, 2021 09:30
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simply get a real big crane i hear there's a ton of extra lift capacity built into them anyhow
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Mar 24, 2021 09:56
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Real question: could those insane fuckhuge Bagger machines help dig a canal significantly faster?
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By popular demand posted:Real question: could those insane fuckhuge Bagger machines help dig a canal significantly faster? Absoolutely, yes. They're designed to remove overburden from coal deposits so they can be mined more easily, which is basically just "strip dirt off the surface in insane amounts".
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Mar 24, 2021 10:10
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It's not world peace or a cure for cancer but I'd like so much to see that work in person.
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HarmB posted:It's still within all the actual limits of the canal though. Under regular rules(https://web.archive.org/web/20161114134414/http://www.antaresegypt.com.eg/suez_rules.pdf) you can go up to 64×∞. Vessels up to 74m can transit unloaded without any special permission, while larger still can get permission to transit. I don't think it is, larger beams are allowed but they have a corresponding reduction in max draft. Default is 20m, but for 59m beam it's only allowed to be around 14m draft, Given is closer to 16m according to the maritime tracker thing (which could obviously be out of date)  Probably is, since they're required to have draft markers and you'd like to think someone checks that sort of thing. e: not that size was the issue, apparently it suffered a blackout, so mechanical failure of some variety Or someone forgot to get gas Azhais fucked around with this message at 10:23 on Mar 24, 2021 |
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Bad Munki posted:RIP Ever Given, zigged when it should have zagged Pizza'd when should have french-fried Humphreys fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Mar 24, 2021 |
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Mar 24, 2021 10:19
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That ship ain't coming out. Time to build another canal.
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In theory right if you bring up enough crane you could unload the containers, greatly reducing the draught?
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The Lone Badger posted:In theory right if you bring up enough crane you could unload the containers, greatly reducing the draught? You aren't getting a crane big enough to reach that high to that spot anytime within the next few days, unless by some miracle there's a massive crane barge nearby on another job. And if they are, the owners just got super rich(er)
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Mar 24, 2021 11:18
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A lot of people don’t know that The Suez Canal was built basically using slave labor Just a thought
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AHH F/UGH posted:A lot of people don’t know that The Suez Canal was built basically using slave labor “Prisoners with jobs”
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AHH F/UGH posted:A lot of people don’t know that The Suez Canal was built basically using slave labor Suez means slave in Egyptian e,c: 
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Mar 24, 2021 12:22
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hemale in pain posted:That ship ain't coming out. Time to build another canal. It'll be quicker to dig a curve around Evergreen, direct water there and bury Evergreen in sand.
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Mar 24, 2021 12:53
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Quicker still to build a ramp by it, run water down the ramp, and have the other ships do sick jumps over it.
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Xaintrailles posted:Quicker still to build a ramp by it, run water down the ramp, and have the other ships do sick jumps over it. Bet I could jump this tanker ship over the great pyramids, hold my beer! content adjacent: https://i.imgur.com/vgAKbrT.mp4
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poo poo load of mooring lines from stranded vessel to one behind. Full reverse on rear vessel. Tugs to maneuver Everderp and its bulb bow out the way it came through. That was my ex-Navy now ship-pilot uncle in QLD. Granted, he never had to deal with canals. And it's late in Australia so probably beers. But I also concur.
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Mar 24, 2021 13:48
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just nuke it and call it a day
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koshmar posted:You're not losing your mind. The front of the ship isn't symmetrical. It looks like the prow, if it's called that, is off center and more on the left side of the ship. I'm pretty sure its a trick of the light that's hiding the curve on the 'short' side of the prow (and perhaps some other lens effect by whatever camera focal length was used). I haven't ever seen an asymmetrical bow offset in a tanker/cargo ship.
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What if they used a water bomber to flood the area You know, like Notre Dame
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