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Food $200 Data $150 Rent $800 Wooden cubes $3,600 Utility $150 someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this. my family is dying
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grate deceiver posted:I'm getting dangerously close to buying Sidereal Confluence, please help cubes cubes Cubes Cube CUBES CUBES CUBES!!!!!!!! Also, octagons.
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# ? Mar 23, 2021 13:57 |
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grate deceiver posted:Food $200 Buy more cubes.
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# ? Mar 23, 2021 14:46 |
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Jedit posted:Buy more cubes. yes
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# ? Mar 23, 2021 14:47 |
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ok, seriously I went and ordered it. I was considering either Sidereal or Container for my deal making and speculation fix, but I don't think I can justify blowing that much on plastic ships, only the expensive edition of Container is available near me. Also I just love one of a kind weirdo games like this even if I won't get to play them much. Now to convert my entire living room into a table
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grate deceiver posted:ok, seriously I went and ordered it. I was considering either Sidereal or Container for my deal making and speculation fix, but I don't think I can justify blowing that much on plastic ships, only the expensive edition of Container is available near me. Also I just love one of a kind weirdo games like this even if I won't get to play them much. Now to convert my entire living room into a table Container is fantastic and probably easier to get on the table than Sidereal but we had a great time with Sidereal last time we played and I look forward to getting it out when I can find more than four people to play with.
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# ? Mar 23, 2021 16:22 |
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Container is also getting a normal less ridiculous reprint this year.
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# ? Mar 23, 2021 16:27 |
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In an interesting side note, both games are kind of fragile and can break with the wrong group so be sure you let the other players know what they are getting into.
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# ? Mar 23, 2021 16:28 |
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Bottom Liner posted:Container is also getting a normal less ridiculous reprint this year. Hurray! I hadn't heard this. I almost backed Import/Export just to have some of the bits for Container
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Mayveena posted:In an interesting side note, both games are kind of fragile and can break with the wrong group so be sure you let the other players know what they are getting into. So refreshing to have this disclaimer. It is good to know if a game is very group dependent, despite quality.
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# ? Mar 23, 2021 17:47 |
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Container reprint is released. Oops, made the boats even bigger this time.
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# ? Mar 23, 2021 19:11 |
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Mayveena posted:In an interesting side note, both games are kind of fragile and can break with the wrong group so be sure you let the other players know what they are getting into. Break in what way? I can see it being annoying if someone is blocked from trades, but I think my group is pretty good on that. Bottom Liner posted:Container is also getting a normal less ridiculous reprint this year. More cubes! Yes... Hahaha... Yes!
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# ? Mar 23, 2021 19:16 |
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grate deceiver posted:Break in what way? I can see it being annoying if someone is blocked from trades, but I think my group is pretty good on that. Most or all of the table needs to be comfortable jockeying for people's attention - it's a very social game and wallflowers are both probably not going to enjoy it very much and may actively mess with the balance.
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# ? Mar 23, 2021 19:20 |
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Countblanc posted:Most or all of the table needs to be comfortable jockeying for people's attention - it's a very social game and wallflowers are both probably not going to enjoy it very much and may actively mess with the balance. Yeah not everyone is comfortable with all the activity. And some don’t like the real time mental math.
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# ? Mar 23, 2021 19:24 |
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grate deceiver posted:More cubes! Yes... Hahaha... Yes! Me getting cubes: Haha gently caress yeah!!! Yes!! Me losing cubes: Well this loving sucks. What the gently caress.
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# ? Mar 23, 2021 19:27 |
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The classic way Container breaks is people not noticing the plug hole all of the games money is draining from. When you bring a shipment of goods to the island (where they will eventually be scored for VP at the end of the game), it's sold in an auction. If someone else biys it, they pay you, and the bank pays you the same amount again. If you buy it, and get all those goods you really want and sent a container ship around to buy up and deliver to you, you pay the bank and that money goes out of the game. Believe it or not, a fair sample of players don't see how continually taking money out of the game could lead to nobody having any money to do stuff with. But yeah, the less esoteric way to break it is that if someone's not playing the game, there's not a lot to distract you. In a non-interactive euro, youve got plenty of plates to have fun spinning, even if an opponent is letting their plates smash on the floor. And playing Container requires talking and counting, which not everyone enjoys.
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# ? Mar 23, 2021 19:54 |
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grate deceiver posted:I'm getting dangerously close to buying Sidereal Confluence, please help Whatever you do, don't listen to Space-Biff's podcast interview with the designer (I believe it's podcast #6). That thing will sell you Sidereal in a hot second. edit: Oh, you already went and got it. Well then go ahead and check out the podcast anyway. It's really good; Dan's a solid interviewer and Tauceti gives a LOT of insight into the design behind SC.
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Mayveena posted:In an interesting side note, both games are kind of fragile and can break with the wrong group so be sure you let the other players know what they are getting into. Is there such thing as a game with heavy interaction that isn't fragile? I was just wracking my brain and trying to think of an example. Do you consider not playing optimally/well and allowing the person to your right or left to succeed outside of normal means and thus disenfranchising others a type of fragility? Would playing Civ with a newbie who doesn't get the value of trades and gives someone something way too good away be a version of fragility? Or would you say fragile means the game actually fundamentally breaks down and is unplayable/collapses otherwise? In that case I think Container is the only one I can think of that actually lets you go into a death spiral.
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# ? Mar 23, 2021 20:38 |
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Need some recommendations. My SO and I are about to finish up Pandemic Legacy Season 0. We've played all the Pandemic Legacies, love Spirit Island, and kinda burned out on the Arkham Horror LCG. Trying to wean her onto competitive games with 7 Wonders Duel and Root, but she's not a super aggro board game nerd like me. Ideally it'd be a legacy game or something like Spirit Island with a lot of replayability. Cooperative is preferred over competitive, but something low impact (fast, not actually beating the poo poo out of each other's stuff) competitive like 7 Wonders, Terraforming Mars, or Wingspan would also work. I'm not into Gloomhaven or its ilk, as I already run hella TRPGs and dungeon crawling doesn't really appeal to me.
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tokenbrownguy posted:Need some recommendations. My SO and I are about to finish up Pandemic Legacy Season 0. We've played all the Pandemic Legacies, love Spirit Island, and kinda burned out on the Arkham Horror LCG. Trying to wean her onto competitive games with 7 Wonders Duel and Root, but she's not a super aggro board game nerd like me. Me and my SO have been enjoying the Sherlock Holmes: Consulting Detective games. It's like the default couples suggestion. It's not so much legacy but could be described as a campaign game. SUSD describe the game here, if you aren't familiar with it. It's sort of a multi-path adventure book except you're helping Sherlock Holmes solve a mystery. They can let you feel incredibly clever for figuring something out, or frustrate you with your own ineptitude.
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tokenbrownguy posted:Need some recommendations. My SO and I are about to finish up Pandemic Legacy Season 0. We've played all the Pandemic Legacies, love Spirit Island, and kinda burned out on the Arkham Horror LCG. Trying to wean her onto competitive games with 7 Wonders Duel and Root, but she's not a super aggro board game nerd like me. If you like deckbuilders, Aeon's End is a co-op deckbuilder against enemy bosses. It has a legacy version that also serves as an extended tutorial to the game, and then if you want more after that (or if you can't find it and are okay starting with a non-legacy version), there's a shitload of other expansions that add new cards and mages and enemies, some with campaigns.
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tokenbrownguy posted:Need some recommendations. My SO and I are about to finish up Pandemic Legacy Season 0. We've played all the Pandemic Legacies, love Spirit Island, and kinda burned out on the Arkham Horror LCG. Trying to wean her onto competitive games with 7 Wonders Duel and Root, but she's not a super aggro board game nerd like me. Dominion sounds like it's what you want. It's fast, you can tailor the levels of "gently caress you" in the Kingdom with ease, it's got huge variety just out of the base box and with expansions that becomes almost infinite.
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# ? Mar 23, 2021 23:35 |
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I've definitely had Advanced Civ break... well, not break, but it was introduced to players who weren't used to brutal mechanics, and the outcome was that they traded less for fear of picking up calamites, despite there being some incredible trades there available (and my tradeable calamities ) . As a result, tech progression slowed for everyone which in that game wasn't the worst, but it did extend the phases longer than they needed to be. If you call "slowing the game down to the point that no one wanted to play it anymore" then that's probably breaking it. Finished our first full game of Eclipse 2e last night, I ended up pumping a massive economic engine but two mistakes ruined me: first was not picking up the Monument tech as soon as it was available and hence having it snapped up by another player, and the second was me misreading the artifact tech bonus (for some reason I thought it gave me VPs instead of resources that I didn't need). With nothing to use my engine on I ended up throwing in a few ships but they didn't have enough upgrades to be useful vs other players. Still, I quite enjoyed it. The endgame is absolutely cutthroat with how few VPs are available to claim. I can't imagine the chaos of 1e's last round, seems like you'd just have been throwing everything + kitchen sink at other players.
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# ? Mar 23, 2021 23:46 |
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Sidereal is a lot better than container IMHO. But I am loud and shout so might be a better fit for me.
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# ? Mar 23, 2021 23:49 |
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Sidcon's got a lot more poo poo to distract you if someone is playing sub optimally. In Container you've got nothing to do but look at that guy who's happy to make $5 while someone else (not you) is making $10. In Sidcon you can just put your head down and try and move cubes more efficiently.
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Mr. Squishy posted:Sidcon's got a lot more poo poo to distract you if someone is playing sub optimally. In Container you've got nothing to do but look at that guy who's happy to make $5 while someone else (not you) is making $10. In Sidcon you can just put your head down and try and move cubes more efficiently. This is absolutely true, but I think there is other stuff too: Sidcon supports more player counts, and non traditional player counts. I think Sidcon is only real time trading and negotiation game I have, but I have tons of economic games. I dunno I sold Container but Sidereal is a fixture and might hit the table tonight.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 00:14 |
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Modern Art does everything I like about Container better and faster. I could probably say that about a lot of games though. SidCon remains wholly novel and unique.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 00:16 |
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Morpheus posted:Container reprint is released. I hope the ships actually float this time!!
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 01:18 |
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Worst thing about Sidereal is that they made a legible 2e and I can't justify buying it again.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 02:58 |
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incorrect. the new version is legible.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 03:35 |
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Chill la Chill posted:I hope the ships actually float this time!! Now you can fit in the boats
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 03:55 |
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New edition of container is just a captain's hat and a deed to a freighter floating off of Greece.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 04:48 |
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I'm excited to pick up SidCon 2E for my first in-person gaming session once all of my friends are vaccinated. Seems like the perfect game for that.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 05:08 |
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New Deluxe Deluxe edition of Container appears to have problems with the game locking up. https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1374438210315513864
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 07:50 |
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Did anyone ever get a chance to play the Vampire the Masquerade Vendetta card game? It kickstarted a while back but releases soon and I think it had online versions available to try. Any thoughts?
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million dollar mack posted:I've definitely had Advanced Civ break... well, not break, but it was introduced to players who weren't used to brutal mechanics, and the outcome was that they traded less for fear of picking up calamites, despite there being some incredible trades there available (and my tradeable calamities ) . As a result, tech progression slowed for everyone which in that game wasn't the worst, but it did extend the phases longer than they needed to be. We played a game with someone who thought she had "figured it out" fairly early in the game and just didn't trade with people unless she was trying to offload a calamity. She... did not do well and finished by saying, "Boy I wish I traded more."
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 16:04 |
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I expected something more along the lines of "... declared the game totally unbalanced"
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 17:30 |
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Thanks for the recs! I'm not sure Consulting Detective is our speed, we're both pretty poor losers. Aeon's End does sound dope. Picked that up and... Dominion! Of course! The SO mentioned playing and liking it before. Thanks for the reminder.
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# ? Mar 25, 2021 01:12 |
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I don't even calculate score for Sherlock Consulting Detective. We just investigate as much as we want and enjoy the narrative. I find it strange that the game's scoring system actively encourages you to jump to conclusions and to soak in as little of the game's narrative as possible. Aeon's End is a good pick. I love that game.
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Cube game arrived, I wasn't expecting there's so much other components. Looks cool as hell, stoked to try it...one day...
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